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  1. 2 points
    MAMA3

    Tics and use of essential oils?

    Hello, This is my first time on here. Chris is my husband & I wanted to give an update on our son. He is now 9 years old & I'm happy to say his tics are now under control, with only occasional motor tics. We are so thankful for sites like this. Otherwise we would have never known to restrict his diet & try essential oils. I have several friends who have reached out after my recent post on social media & they are also seeing positive results with changing diet & applying essential oils. I spend much more time at the grocery store checking labels on anything that is processed foods. I buy mostly fresh fruits, vegetables & all natural meats. We can always tell if our son eats something that is not within his diet. His tics are almost instantly much more visible & it takes a few days to get him back to normal. We are so thankful everyday to have our happy go lucky son back. We know that he may always have tics, but it’s so reassuring to know that it is controllable with something as simple as diet changes & his daily half tablet of Guanfacine. I have said from the beginning I will always make sure he has a normal, happy life, no matter what. It is possible. My son is a reminder everyday.
  2. 1 point
    Just curious how many of our PANDAS kids are affected by swimming in chlorinated pools. Last year when my son was at his worst (we didn’t yet know what was going on) we noticed a dramatic worsening of his tics as soon as he started swimming. We then didn’t try having him swim again until this weekend, 7 months after that last time (he has since been treated for his PANDAS with antibiotics). We were terrified his tics would start again, but this time, thankfully, there was no negative effect. With camp around the corner, I do worry about him swimming every day, though. I asked the camp to have him shower both before and after he swims, just in case. So I’m curious how many of us have PANDAS kids affected by chlorine. Please also include information about where your child is in their recovery. Thank you!
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  4. 1 point
    MLee

    School overnight outdoor camp?

    Thank you Chemar. You have so many good points. I really appreciate your kind perspective and insight. I will take them to heart. And you are right. You only have your youth once.
  5. 1 point
    Has anyone done CellTrend testing for auto-antibodies? This test was developed for POTS and ME/CFS, but surprisingly my son tested high positive for over half the 11 auto-antibodies in the panel. I'm treating this as very meaningful for likely AE. But would our insurance agree and pay for IVIG or PEX, based on a research test from Germany? Still it's enough for us to want to get serious about getting evidence to justify IVIG or PEX (both to us, DS20 himself, and insurance companies). However, years ago we'd spent $$$ for the Cunningham panel and insurance completely discounted that. So I'd like to know what other autoantibodies DS has, but I'd also like it to be meaningful to insurance companies. What have you found useful? Candidates I know are: Vibrant Wellness' Neural Zoomer Plus Moleculera labs' Cunningham Panel (much better for PANDAS than PANS) Cyrex Labs CellTrend' GmBH's CellTrend Mayo Clinic's ENS2 Labcorps Quest The only ones that are FDA-certified (?) and reimbursable in the US (as opposed to "research tests") are the last three -- the Mayo clinic's classical autoantibody panel (largely for cancer) and the very limited ones from Labcorps and Quest I care about getting info that's useful to us and to insurance companies. So if one of the first 4 was useful for anyone appealing for IVIG rejection, I'd love to hear that.
  6. 1 point
    Cmac

    Length on Antibiotics

    Pennmom—yes, his intrusive thoughts were the last thing to go. He had hallucinations (he saw werewolves all over the place), ocd—lots and lots of rituals like running in front of the back door a certain number of times before he could enter the house, extreme separation anxiety and extreme anxiety in general, and emotional lability. Those symptoms began to ease up gradually between 3-7 months from the time of the first onset in August 2018. The hallucinations and accompanying hand movements were the first clue that something was terribly wrong in August 2018. Looking back it seemed like there were some minor signs from earlier in the summer, too. I had never heard of PANS/PANDAS before all this. As for your original question I think we started to see some improvement after about 8 weeks on a certain combo of antibiotics (biaxin and augmentin) and then dr switched up antibiotics to get the myco p. Although no two kids’ path to recovery is the same it does seem like it takes awhile to get better. (I had such high hopes for our first 10 day course of amoxicillin that the pediatrician put him on when she discovered the strep). Hang in there—it’s going to get better.
  7. 1 point
    mcbull

    New Hope New Year

    Having raised a kid now to college with constant PANDAS struggles, I am convinced immune health is key. We had a period of antibiotics and then tonsillectomy which seemed to provide some relief. But continue to manage separation issues and particular obsessions. Currently using prozac and pretty aggressive CBT (ERP). Having recently overcome significant digestive issues, I am convinced the key to strong immunity is a clean and healthy gut. My kid was exposed to antibiotics at birth, had chronic constipation as a toddler, and was OCD symptomatic at age 3-4. We have a sibling with anxiety and narcolepsy, another with ADD/ADHD, we had some of these mild tics off and on. I'm sure they are related. I recognize the parental panic. The kids need examples of dealing calmly with these issues. All we can do is find someone good to work with and continue to try the next thing.
  8. 1 point
    Chemar

    Mumbling swear words

    Hi I do understand how you are feeling as my son went through a bout of coprolalia (cussing/swearing) tics when he was 10 and it was hard for him as well as for us (he does have a Tourette diagnosis, genetic from his Dad's side) Coprolalia is recognized as a vocal tic in Tourette Syndrome. All TS tics are involuntary, so that makes the struggle when dealing with "socially unacceptable" tics even harder, especially as often having people notice or comment makes the tic even harder to suppress. My son had Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and that really helped as he was able to learn ways to substitute words or say the bad ones under his breath. A good CBT therapist can really help tremendously...but it was our experience that it's best to have someone who understand TS He is 30 now and living a productive life so please know there is hope, even after the multitude of assorted tics that have waxed and waned over the years. Things were at their worst for him when neurologists and psychiatrist put him on those very strong prescription drugs, so just do be informed before you accept prescriptions from the doctors etc you are planning to see. I know not everyone reacts negatively to the meds, but when they do, it can be long lasting and very seriously detrimental. We found tremendous help by addressing his diet, environment, allergies etc and supplementing with nutrients he needed. We also used a number of other alternative treatments that made a very positive impact. I have an old thread that gives some info on what we did to help him https://latitudes.org/forums/topic/687-the-treatments-that-have-helped-my-son/ I would also encourage you to look at the section on the ACN/Latitudes website on TS tics https://latitudes.org/conditions/what-is-tourette-syndrome/ Also the very helpful resource books by Sheila Rogers on natural treatments for tics/Tourette and learning what triggers tics https://latitudes.org/store/natural-treatments-for-tics-and-tourette-syndrome-book/ https://latitudes.org/store/tourette-syndrome-triggers-book/ I hope this helps a bit, and that you will be encouraged in knowing things can get better and there is much reason for hope!
  9. 1 point
    Cmac

    Intrusive thoughts not resolving

    We did a whole bunch of different probiotics—Culturelle, GutPro, Flora, etc. For antibiotics the ones that he was on longest were a combo of Biaxcin/Augmentin and then later Clindamycin/Rifampicin because the strep came down, but not the Myco p. (The Clindamycin was really rough on his stomach though).
  10. 1 point
    lw47

    Mycoplasma results

    Hi, my daughter has also struggled with PANS/ PANDAS and her mycoplasma titers have been elevated this year as well. She never tested positive for Lyme until she had a recent test through our LLMD, who has treated her in the past even though she just had indeterminate test results. She has also been treated effectively a few years ago with IVIG from a PANDAS specialist. It helped, but symptoms came back, and she was showing more fatigue and aching muscles the past year. My hunch was this is Lyme. So she saw the Lyme doctor again recently and she recommended this time that she get a urine Lyme test through DNA connections. It came back positive for Lyme, Bartonella , and Erlichia. I am so glad she had that test, and we could stop wondering whether Lyme was a factor or not. I’m frustrated that past diagnostic tests for Lyme weren’t positive and thus she continued to suffer. She is currently being treated for Lyme again, and Bartonella and Mycoplasma. There are new regimens the LLMDs are using for persistent/ chronic Lyme, including Disuliram, which is still experimental but showing promise, and a combination of Dapsone along with other antibiotics such as minocycline and rifampin. None of these approaches are easy, but they are reports of people getting better after 3 months with Disulfiram, and a few months or more of Dapsone protocols. I STRONGLY recommend you get the Lyme panel DNA Connexions test. It is not cheap- 650 dollars, but you don’t need a doctor’s order- you go online and pay and they will mail you the kit. There are too many people walking around with Lyme that are undiagnosed. Lyme can manifest as predominantly neuropsychiatric symptoms in children as well. I don’t work for the company I’m just a mom that has dealt with this was for too long, and now I think there may be hope for kids and adults with Lyme Your doctor- even some PANDAS docs and most PCPS- won’t even be aware of this test Good luck!
  11. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    Mycoplasma results

    My DS responded very well to Clarithromycin after showing high Mycoplasma titers. It’s common for kids to get yeast issues from antibiotics even while taking probiotics, so it’s important they have the probiotic 2 or 3 times a day. Be sure to space the probiotic at least 2 hours away from antibiotic. I’ve used Gutpro (expensive) and Jarrow (reasonable). I wouldn’t skimp and use a generic grocery store or drug store brand. Yeast can cause issues itself. I also give my DS a yeast control supplement, especially while on abx, and for a few weeks after. We’ve used Candicid Forte and OrthoFlora yeast support (Protocol for Life Balance). I’m sure Whole Foods also sells yeast control supplements. I prayer that your daughter finally gets some relief from the abx. Keep us posted.
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    Soo. I don't know what to think. I guess it was positive. The doctor we saw is a director of movement disorders at neurology department of National Children's hospital in DC and has 41 years of experience. I guess he's seen it all. He did neuro exam, said my baby is perfectly healthy. Said his tics are a 2 out of 10. He sees this every day all day. Said the next few weeks will be most interesting as they could start winding down and taper off. Said he didn't have a crystal ball and every child is different. But 15 percent of kids have tics. Said transient can definitely be both vocal and motor. Also mentioned they could go away and then rear it's ugly head in puberty. But at the end said 80 percent of kids with tics do not have them at age 18, which should be encouraging. I have a blood order for chemistry, cbc, thyroid and some other stuff. He said wait and watch approach is a way to go and would not medicate my baby( good) unless tics are very bothersome to HIM Said magnesium supplements are a good idea.
  13. 1 point
    Chemar

    Tics and use of essential oils?

    Just do remember that Essential Oils are concentrated and not all brands can be applied to the skin without use of a carrier oil. When used neat, one drop is totally enough! and even then it depends on the individual. Some people cannot tolerate all oils. ie they will react ok with one and very negatively with another. My son has always been that way. Just because something is natural doesn't always mean it doesn't have a potential for reactivity. We learned that the hard way and with much trial and error. It's the same with supplements....they are excellent and beneficial - but different people have different reactions.
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    Hi I think perhaps you are referring to B12 not B6? For B12 the methyl form is better than the cyano form
  15. 1 point
    MAMA3

    Tics and use of essential oils?

    The vetiver seems to help our sons tics the most. We’re not really sure what it does other than possibly slow down the nerve sensory overload to the brain some. We apply it in the morning on his big toe when he’s getting dressed for school.
  16. 1 point
    Stacie M

    Hand strength

    Oh this is so helpful! I will definitely be doing this tonight. Thank you!
  17. 1 point
    Thank you both for your kind words. This feels so lonely. We have a neuro appointment on 15th, but who knows what they tell us. It seems nobody really knows much about tics and first advice is wait and watch. Sigh. I am taking him to the zoo today to try and forget for a while. I bought the book already!
  18. 1 point
    Hi Sunflower78 So sorry to hear of what you are going through. As a mom who was in that same state of anguish almost 20 years ago, I absolutely understand. But I so agree with Sheila that you should not blame yourself. There are so many possible causative factors that can trigger tics. We can beat ourselves up, or we can focus on trying to find the best ways to make things better. It was thanks to Sheila and this forum that I was able to follow the latter course, and thankfully things started to improve for my son. In our case, my son does have a genetic TS component, but even so, many things we learned here made such a difference in helping to manage his tics. I do think your pediatrician may be way too quick to say Tourettes! Unfortunately many mainstream physicians really are not keeping up with so much info that is around about other possible tic triggers. I am at work so I can only do a quick reply now, but I would greatly encourage you to just start reading up on as much info here as possible and also on the main ACN/Latitudes website https://latitudes.org/ Sheila's books and articles have been a tremendous help to so many as well!
  19. 1 point
    Hi Sunflower78--welcome to the Forums. You sound like a wonderful mom and all the efforts you have made to stay green, breastfeed and eat clean have no doubt helped your son. Please don't assume it was the vaccines or that you did anything wrong. Many, MANY kids have symptoms just like your boy. Sometimes they go away on their own, sometimes it takes extra steps to find the cause and then go from there. You are right that there is no way this could be considered Tourette's (Geez!). I apologize that I am out of town and have to get off the computer but will check in soon. Don't despair, there are lots of things that can be done to help your son. Others on the Forum can help also. Best wishes, Sheila
  20. 1 point
    We found the best B6 to use was the activated P-5-P form. European Union countries outlawed the food dyes and other dangerous additives a while back! Shocks me that this country hasn't especially as natural food dyes do the job well without the danger! (eg beets, blueberries etc.) M&Ms in England have these natural colourings so there is no real reason imo that they can;t use them here too!
  21. 1 point
    Yes, chlorine was a major tic trigger for my son! Even though it didn't show in his list of actual allergies, more detailed testing showed he was very very sensitive to it, as to many other chemicals. Later testing confirmed he has MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) which is why both environmental and food additive chemicals impact him so intensely, including chemical perfumed/fragranced items etc I found some excellent online resources over the years to make my own household products, and always select fragrance free/dye free options for laundry, toiletries etc and of course no artificial food dyes or other artificial food additives.
  22. 1 point
    cmontgom

    Tics and use of essential oils?

    To add to my wife’s comments. The peanut butter and jelly we get is also all natural. Smuckers brand has all natural at Walmart and Jiff and Peter Pan peanut butter offers all natural options. We are Just fortunate our son loves peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and eats them every day at school for lunch. When he starts middle School we might be able to send things we make at home that he can heat up at school himself but we will cross that bridge when we get there. We also deal with the birthday parties and keeping him away from school foods. It’s hard. But we have told him he also has to do his part and stay away from foods he is not supposed to eat at school or at birthday parties. We tell him it’s not fair and we understand. But it is what it is. Sometimes he does eat these foods but eventually he knows the consequences and for a 9 year old he’s had to make very mature decisions on his own to say no which he mostly does now. We are very proud of him. What we have found since this started a little over a year ago is that his tics are inside him. We don’t know if they will ever fully go away or if he will outgrow them. Sometimes it stays dormant. Time will tell. What we do know for certain is that you have to look for the triggers that cause the tics to flare up. For us we know certain foods and ingredients are big triggers. So limiting or eliminating these foods, with the help of certain essential oils and his small dose of guanfacine medicine it really keeps his tics very low to unnoticeable. Like my wife said feel free to reach out to us any time and check back. We respond as quickly as we can each time. I hope this helps. Hang in there!
  23. 1 point
    MAMA3

    Tics and use of essential oils?

    Hope36, I am so glad you saw our post. We started noticing certain foods would make his tics more noticeable & more out of control. We started removing all processed meats, especially hotdogs & brawts. We found these always made his tics flare up. We also cut out pizza, except for gluten free. We don’t believe he has a gluten allergy. However, most gluten free foods are also more natural with no preservatives & additives, which we believe affect our son. We also never eat Chinese food because of the MSG in it. It makes his tics awful. I buy only breads that state no high fructose corn syrup & it doesn’t seem to bother our son. I buy Healthy Life whole wheat bread at Walmart & also Sara Lee brand has some bread that is labeled no high fructose corn syrup. If we buy sandwich meat, turkey or ham, I buy Oscar Mayer Natural. It will show no artificial ingredients & no nitrates, which are additives to preserve longer. Our son likes peanut butter & Jelly so he eats that at school & we send lightly salted Pringles & organic granola bars. We also send organic annie’s Chocolate chip cookies a few days a week. I have also found that Kraft Mac & cheese does not affect him since they’ve removed the preservatives, etc. The Kraft Mac n cheese bowls are easy too. We mainly stick to all fresh fruits & vegetables & we cook at home primarily so we know what is in his food. I know it’s overwhelming, but over time it won’t be. Mainly stick to fresh fruits & veggies. Also we use Young Living oils because they are more pure. You should be able to find a local contact who may sell them in your area. I hope this helps & we are always here! Hugs
  24. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    Is this pandas

    We found 3 doctors in Illinois that immediately (after seeing bloodwork) recognized this as PANDAS and/or Autoimmune Encephalitis). Unfortunately none accepted DS medical coverage. The first said that if we could not get insurance to pay for IVIG, we needed to “beg, borrow or steal” to get it, or he would be institutionalized. By this time we had already gone through our savings (including retirement savings) due to unpaid time off and unpaid medical expenses. We used crowd funding to pay for first IVIG. We saw immediate improvement, but it was not lasting. We stopped seeing first two PANDAS MDs, mostly due to location, cost and accessibility. Third MD ordered Cunningham Panel and was able to get IVIG covered under AE. Although this doctor does not take DS insurance, IVIG is considered a prescription and it is covered. I sometimes see on these posts that a child may only need 1 or 2 IVIGs. This was not the case for my DS (possibly because the illness went untreated for so many years). For your daughter, 1 or 2 may work. Read the book “Saving Sammy”. Beth Maloney’s son was cured with antibiotics alone, but again his illness went untreated for maybe a year or so. I think that’s what makes the difference. I believe it’s important to find a doctor experienced in PANDAS/PANS, not just someone who is open to the possibility and willing to give you antibiotics for a period of time.
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    So sorry to hear all this! Have you tried https://www.amyjoysmithnp.com/ ? She just moved to a practice in Orange, CA and has worked with DS19 for about 5 yrs. to 'bring him back' to a better baseline.
  26. 1 point
    MAMA3

    Tics and use of essential oils?

    I know exactly what you are feeling. I spent day & night trying to find hope, trying to find anything to help our son. I was very sad, so scared & very angry some days. I prayed daily God would take it from him & give it to me. I didn’t want to talk to anyone about it either & I was extra protective of him. I was so thankful I found the post regarding oils. It gave us our son back emotionally. He struggled so much at school. I also had a talk with all the parents we knew from school. I explained to them what he was dealing with and asked them to talk to their kids(his close friends) & explain to them he can’t control it & how hard it was on him for everyone to constantly ask what was wrong with him. They stopped asking & they actually started watching out for him if someone was ugly too. The oils helped so much with his emotions & also helped him relax more at night. I recommend the lavender & peace and calming at night. The valor promotes courage & strength & along with stress away helps to relax him at school without making him sleepy. The vetiver helps to relax their brain/mind, again without making them tired. I also wanted to mention that we also tried the magnesium supplements, but stopped after his bloodwork showed he was not deficient on any vitamins/minerals. I know what you’re feeling & you’re not alone. I now tell our story on Facebook & have had people reach out to me also. I once felt like I shouldn’t talk about it & that no one would understand, but it helps so much to reach out like you have. We need to educate each other & share our stories & show others that there are more natural approaches. As my husband mentioned earlier, I also recommend you meet with a neurologist just to get clarification. We had bloodwork to make sure he was not missing key vitamins & minerals. The Guanfacine tablet does make a difference. Our son is proof that it is possible to have tics & still have a happy, normal life. I am here if you need anything, or have any questions.
  27. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    Need to vent

    I know that “inexpensive” supplements can add up, but we also used 5-HTP for our DS. It was recommended by an otherwise unhelpful psychiatrist. This was when DS was at crisis level. Need to use on empty stomach. I was able to get DS to and from bloodwork appointment on public transportation because of the 5-HTP. I don’t recall why we stopped using it. This was in 2016. I believed we stopped a couple months later when we finally found a doctor to prescribe high dose of Augmentin. What form is your Oil of Oregano? Again, we saw improvement, but used a high dose. 15 drops of undiluted 5x a day (mixed with orange juice). Something else we use as antibacterial and anti inflammatory is tea made from ginger root. I grate a hunk of ginger root and steep it in boiling water, then strain. It’s pretty spicy, but we like it. We’ve been chilling it and using as an alternative to unsweetened iced tea. At the risk of bombarding you with information, those were a few things I thought of.
  28. 1 point
    Robinhubb

    Need to vent

    Yes we just used a doctor thst didnt use my insurance...he just ran strep teiter thats it. Called my kid crazy and left. Im not totally against phych drugs but thats what drs immediately put her on because they dont know whats wrong. Frustrating!!!!! Ty so much. I know we will get thru but being in the storm is always rough
  29. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    Need to vent

    My heart breaks for you and your family. Since your DD’s onset is recent, there should be so much hope...if only the doctor’s weren’t working against you. What bloodwork did they run? Did they check for Mycoplasma Pneumonia? We spent years trying to find someone to evaluate our DS for PANDAS/PANS. Ultimately we used doctors that don’t accept our coverage or any coverage.
  30. 1 point
    kakrpa

    Need to vent

    I'm so sorry to hear of what your daughter and you all are going through - it sounds tough and incredibly frustrating. I won't say you're doing anything wrong as I think we are all doing the best we can given the circumstances. I truly feel for your daughter as I have dealt with those horrible OCD thoughts myself - I was dx PANS almost 5 yrs ago (young adult onset w severe anxiety that immediately took hold as the pureOCD subtype). It wasn't strep that triggered it for me either (my guess is it was brought on by the pneumonia I battled immediately before this illness). While I would typically second anyone refusing psych medications, I will tell you that I would not have made it to today without their help along w the help of a great psychiatrist. I guess I'm saying please don't shut the door on the potential for her to find some relief in even just one medicine, if it gets to that point. I know there are potential risks and benefits to each approach, just please keep an open mind. Have you heard of TRS by Coseva, before? I just placed an order this morning and would like hear from anyone who has tried this. If you haven't heard of it nor tried it give it a search. It's premise is interesting and I'm curious to see if it will help me. Btw, I am in no way advocating nor endorsing. Wishing you and your daughter the best. Please give her extra hugs as what she needs most right now is love and acceptance, and to know those thoughts are not HER THOUGHTS, but rather manifestations of the illness itself. They do not define her. She's likely very scared inside - it's hard to understand what's going on (even for an adult, let alone a child). (((Hugs)))
  31. 1 point
    prestopony

    Supplements

    I'm sorry you're having trouble getting a doc to help, it's so frustrating. This board was so helpful to me. Like many kids, my 15 year old daughter was diagnosed with PANS after many years of suffering. She is on a lot of supplements, so it's hard to know which ones are really successful! We use: Enhansa for inflammation - follow the guidelines for slow introduction, we noticed a big herx as is said might happen. For anxiety, we use CDB oil and Lithium oratate. Her 23 and me showed folate issues, so she takes Methyl Assist. Magnesium Citrate along with Buffered Vitamin C for constipation (as needed, which used to be all the time at the beginning of treatment!) - I can't stress enough the brain/gut connection to think about during treatment. She takes Thera-lac probiotic too And Super Lysine Plus for immunity support. To balance out the stress of so many years of anxiety and poor sleep we use Cortisol Manger, and Seriphos - I think these are at the bottom of the list of what I think has really been helpful though And, she is on the low-FODMAP diet Upon initial diagnoses, her PANS doc put her on Augmentin which was amazing. Came off of it, flared, tried Zithromicin, didn't work, went back on another month of Augementin, came off of it, and stayed well. During flares, unless her bloodwork shows something, we use a month of Naproxen (regular over-the-counter Aleve) - and it works beautifully. So, treating the inflammation seems to be key during flares. I would think also that a too-short supply of antibiotics is not going to help. Now, my son, who does not have PANS that I know of, but is suddenly dealing with extreme intrusive thoughts and OCD (my daughter's was just EXTREME separation anxiety and EXTREME generalized anxiety) I'm taking what I know about inflammation and scouring this board for help - and trying some things with him: NAC - an amino acid that has had some documented success helping OCD in larger doses L-Theanine - another amino acid that promotes relaxation and calms the brain and elevates GABA and serotonin I just started him on Enhansa last week. Reason being we just found out that he's allergic to EVERYTHING - grass, trees, weeds, mold, dust, cats, chickens (we have eight), dogs (we have three) guinea pigs (we have two). So he has started allergy shots, but in the meantime I can only think that there is inflammation in him from all of these undetected allergies. His probiotic is called Mood-Super strains - with strains that are geared specifically towards anxiety and depression I just learned about this product yesterday from my sister-in-law. My son's cousin, who has OCD, takes 5-htp (another amino acid) and he says it helps a great deal. She uses the Natrol brand. He does not take any pharma for his OCD/anxiety, and said when he stopped taking the 5-htp he noticed he felt a lot worse, so he now takes it again. As far as pharma for my daughter for her anxiety, we held out as long as we could, but she became unsafe and jumped out of a moving car. So we eventually we put her on an SSRI - it worked a bit, but never really well, so we switched to another, it also worked a bit but never really well, so we added in another, which, as expected, worked a bit, but never really well. Fast forward to a year after PANS diagnoses, and this truckload of supplement she takes!, she is off of all pharma, she took a class at the local high-school (and I didn't have to sit in the class with her, lol!), she now sleeps over at friends houses, and is enrolled in the Community College for the fall. So while the psych meds helped a bit, they were not the final answer for us. Sending you good thoughts for your daughter - and lots of good thoughts for you too! Hang in there mom!
  32. 1 point
    SuzanneR

    Follow up blood work

    Are you located in Houston? I ask because I saw you mention Katy and I live in Houston. I have a 22-year-old daughter with PANDAS. It took me 12 years to get her diagnosed. Have you heard of the Cunningham Panel? Look it up on google. That’s how we finally got a diagnosis.
  33. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    Follow up blood work

    After suffering with OCD and intrusive thoughts for over 3 1/2 years, we finally were able to get a rheumatologist to prescribe a high dose of Augmentin for 30 days for our DS in 2016. During the 3 1/2 years we tried unsuccessfully to treat his symptoms with pharmaceutical meds. The doctor let us start the abx before his bloodwork came back, which ultimately showed normal Strep titers. She said we may continue the abx for the 30 days if we chose to. He had no response for the first ten days, but on day 11 or so his symptoms began to rapidly improve. Again, his bloodwork had come back normal. I think if the infection was too far in the past it doesn’t show up on the bloodwork, although the misfired antibodies continue to attack the brain. The Cunningham Panel is what got the PANS diagnosis for my DS. With PANS, there are 3 things to address: the infection, the inflammation and the immune response.
  34. 1 point
    Cmac

    New diagnosis

    My son had a major flare this past February after a dental cleaning and two teeth falling out/then almost immediately the adult teeth came through. It lasted several weeks and was the worst episode we had seen since the initial onset. And my heart goes out to you regarding the intrusive thoughts--they were one of my son's hardest symptoms. He would sob in the middle of doing something or talking to us because they were tormenting him. Night time was the worst. He was so miserable and it took a long, long time for him to share some of the thoughts--basically he was afraid he was going to hurt us. I just kept reassuring him that there was nothing he could think that would make me or his father love him any less. And I kept reminding him that these thoughts were not him. I had him picture a stop sign in his head and then say to himself "I'm having an OCD thought about . . ." Also, grounding himself in the physical world helped. Tapping his feet slowly and calmly in a rhythm or focusing on three blue things he could see in the room and three things he could hear and three things he could feel with his hands--basically having him use his 5 senses to reground himself in the physical world instead of feeling trapped in his head. It is overwhelming--but you will start to find methods that help her.
  35. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    New diagnosis

    I know. It is so overwhelming. Let me know if you start the Oil of Oregano. If I recall we saw an improvement within a week with a high dose of Oil of Wild Oregano.
  36. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    New diagnosis

    My DS’s first major sudden onset of OCD at age 8, happened within 48 hours of dental work. The conventional psychiatrist he first saw said it was possibly triggered by the Nitrous Oxide. Apparently it can deplete vitamin B6 or B12 (can’t remember which). She threw that theory out the window after his labs showed no B Vitamin deficiencies. Years later, another PANDAS mom informed me that dental work is a common trigger for PANS/PANDAS. It can unleash hidden bacteria. Now my DS starts an antibiotic a few days before dental appointment (even cleaning), and continues for 2 weeks after appointment. I’ve been skipping the fluoride treatments for him. The dentist disagrees, but I don’t want to take any chances.
  37. 1 point
    bws1565

    New diagnosis

    I watched a documentary this winter called "Healing From Vaccines" . It was available online for free while running but you might be able to get it still. That gave me the final push to do homeopathy. I believe my DD's problems are vaccine related too although I cannot prove it. Her issues were executive function related, which are very painful for a bright kid like she is. And she did have intrusive thoughts at one point too.... I have stopped vaccinating about 7 years ago, although I was coerced into giving the MMR due to the outbreak in NYC. And YES I have seen reactions. And now we have lost the religious exemption here..... I will not put my younger kids at risk; looking at my options. I would advise you to stay away from ALL vaccines for your entire family. Perhaps have this reaction reported to VAERS, or at least put into her file. Risk of a flu or even measles is just not worth what we are going through. To quote, "It takes a of a lot of money to get rid of what a free vaccine did".
  38. 1 point
    bigmighty

    New diagnosis

    Are you doing anything anti-inflammatory? Try ibuprofen 3x a day for a week and see if it helps. Or try turmeric 2x a day. If she does even slightly better while inflammation is reduced, it's helpful to know, as it suggests something autoimmune is involved. Steroid tapers have helped my son several times. If you can convince a doc to prescribe them for a couple of weeks, that may be something worth pursuing. So sorry you are going through this. Sending virtual hugs.
  39. 1 point
    MaryAngela

    New diagnosis

    Let me know how the CBD oil works. There is also a supplement called NAC that we had some success with. There was a Yale clinical trial for OCD with NAC. You may want to ask her new doctor about it. The dose for the clinical trial was 900mg 3x a day. My son stopped taking it a few months ago, because he was tired of taking supplements, but recently said he wants to start it up again. It’s easy to find...Whole Foods, etc.
  40. 1 point
    Many of us get caught up in a diagnosis name. I think we got lucky with a pediatrician that understood what we would struggle with in the medical industry if she diagnosed our child with pandas which at that time was concidered very rare. She made a diagnosis of “unknown autoimmune illness” in 2012. the result being we did not experience testing or treatment denials from our insurance. Example: getting an mri. Symptoms vary in intensity. We thought at first that DD did not have a tic but later realized her tic was verbal. Her tic also changed with a steroid blast treatment from verbal to head shaking. Having no experience with Pandas symptoms makes it hard to define or recognize symptoms. We think the underlying cause of antibody and protein build up in the Basal ganglia. we did eventually get a pandas diagnosis in 2015.
  41. 1 point
    Ibuprofen (aka advil, motrin) is for some (not all) a "resuce med" in a flare (you can't keep giving it indefinitely). It is definitely the case that some abx work and others not, and it varies from kid to kid and (likely?) by particular sickness for a child.. Haven't had the vomiting experience, but have had our fair share of mystery stomach aches. I have no experience with Colorado docs - am far away.
  42. 1 point
    evemac

    Tics or tourettes

    I know it's hard not to despair, but my son who is now 14 was diagnosed when you was 5. We did so much for him: diet/vitamin protocol, Occupational therapy, chiropractic work, meds, CBIT, and I would say to some extent, all of these interventions helped. He feels pretty comfortable talking about having Tourettes and while he did have some difficulty with peers on occasion and I had to actually request a 504 by 8th grade to deal with the dysgraphia, I also give his teachers a well written article on disinhibition and what that could look like in class. I think advocacy and self-advocacy is important to our children with TS. Unfortunately, people still don't really understand it but the best news is is my son has gone through this and is a strong academic and athlete and what's even more important than that is that he likes who he is! Keep up the good fight. I remember crying at night with him when he was ticcing so hard he couldn't sleep. I have been there! You are not alone! Eve
  43. 1 point
    We did not see dramatic improvement for my DS 14, until he was put on the encephalitis protocol for IVIG, which is monthly HD. He has had 5 so far. This was started after limited success with weekly LD IVIG. He has shown lasting improvement with each treatment. Tics gone, OCD 90% gone. He still has anxiety, focus issues and sound sensitivity. We are hoping for some relief from those symptoms with future treatments.
  44. 1 point
    bobh

    Dr. K Interview, IVIG & Question

    Hello newfie (are you living on The Rock, or settled elsewhere?): Our son did get better without IVIG. But he had a lot of abx (that helped), a steroid burst (that didn't), ibuprofen (that didn't), some SSRI (very very low dose, that helped dramatically once at that low dose, didn't later) and plenty of supplements. One thing that scared us about IVIG is, that after going through the expense and trouble, there seems to be the possibility of regression after getting strep again. At least, there are some stories to that effect (I'm sure if you searched IVIG in this forum, you would find all kinds of experience). I subscribe to "try low hanging fruit first". That is, simple relatively inexpensive things that might deliver gains of significance. One of them is ibuprofen (but you can't continue a high dose for a long time - this is just a rescue protocol). Another that is even lower hanging fruit (because it is so cheap and easy to do, and not harmful at sensible doses) is to have him drink baking soda and water every day. I didn't try this (our son was better before I heard of it), but I would have had I known, based on the research behind this article: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180425093745.htm . We did try various supplements, and we did find one (phosphatidylcholine) that did help our son (but doesn't help everyone). With supplements, I would be very careful - some make some kids worse. Our kid got worse on probiotics, and I have since found that this is not that uncommon among PANS/PANDAS kids. So there is lots to try even while you book and wait for an IVIG appointment if that is what you want to do.
  45. 1 point
    Lwei66

    Daughter has developed some tics

    Hi, My son started to have tics the beginning of this summer. He had multiple tics such as shoulder, neck, hands and legs. He was ticking every second. After reading many postings on the platforms of this site and joined as an advanced member, I was able to read many useful articles about tics and OCD. It really helped me and reassured me. We have given my DS fish oil, multi vitamins and probiotics as supplements in addition to the traditional Chinese herbal medicine subscribed by a Traditional Chinese medicine doctor for a month and half now. His tics are no longer noticeable. He just started having a cold few days ago, we gave him cold medicine. It does not seem to cause flare up n his tic. Hope this gives you some reassurance.
  46. 1 point
    Lwei66

    7 year old tics

    Hi Hope36 How is your daughter now? I am new here because my 8 yr-old son developed Tics about 1 1/2 months ago. On the worst days, he was ticcing every second. As a dad, I worry so much with tons of anxiety myself. I gave my son Fish Oil and some Cod Liver Oil. We also give my son herbal medicine. So far, the situation has improved some what. Tics frequency improved from every second to 2 or 3 tics a minute. Sometimes we see 10 minute tic free intervals. Following Dr. DeMare's book on Natural treatment for TS and tics, I am now doing detective work to figure out the triggers for my son's tics. I do believe that my son's tics was epigenetic and brought onset by environmental/dietary triggers. It will take time to slowly identify the triggers and then hope that there is ways to address each of the triggers. Hope that your daughter's situation has improved.
  47. 1 point
    bigmighty

    IVIG study results

    It doesn't actually say that all of these kids remained symptom free. I only skimmed, but one shows a kid who kept getting strep with re-emergence of symptoms each time (patient E). After IVIG, at every new strep infection the ocd returned and the child went on on a treatment dose of augmentin for up to a month. It looks like the kid was on prophylactic antibiotics, too but was getting new strep infections/symptom re-emergence anyway. That's not to say that the IVIGs weren't beneficial or positive. But I wouldn't call this 100% symptom free since the child obviously still has PANDAS and continues to become symptomatic sporadically even while continuing on daily antibiotics.
  48. 1 point
    1 Psychologist in Michigan: MICHIGAN Dr. David Wartel Psychologist (specializes in CBT) 248-626-1330 West Bloomfield, MI Several docs in Ohio: OHIO Dr. Cheryl Leuthaesuer Integrative Wellcare 216-696-2320 Richfield, OH Dr. Ali Carine Integrative Pediatrics 614-459-4200 Upper Arlington, OH *Dr. Allen Lewis (Leading PANDAS Physician) Integrative Pediatrician 614-245-4750 Gahanna, OH will treat more complicated cases involving PANDAS and Autism Dr. Jan Kriwinsky Pediatrician 216-831-7337 Beachwood , OH http://pandasnetwork...iders/#MICHIGAN
  49. 1 point
    when i was reading your post, i thought it was written by me!!! My child flipped on magnesium but flips on EVERYTHING we have tried. It turns out that she went crazy on everything because she had severe yeast/fungal issues. She is now on Amphoceterin and doing well and also tolerating more supplements/vitamins. It was a hellish 13 years and now we are finally seeing some results. Also possitve for lyme/bartonella. We treated her with the bactrim and mino. and she was a mess. Again, I think because yeast was out of control. Hope this helps.
  50. 1 point
    mommyfor4

    positive update on ds

    Hi Everyone, it's been some time since I've posted. Things continue to go really well. We have even been able to get ds to do acupuncture (my child with huge needle anxiety!!!!) So far it seems to be really positive for him, he feels more focused and even looks more relaxed. He even enjoys going now and will ask when his next appt. is. We had a rise over the last full moon, seems to be par for the course for him, but nothing to send us into the old panic. We are continuing with the Progressive Multi and Natural Calm and of course his diet, we are using freshly ground flax in the mornings...when I remember for Omega's. His food sensitivities seem to be less reactive and shorter lived, although we are not prepared to change his diet. He is not totally tic free, but he is no longer so anxious, and many days we almost have to look for his tics. He still has definate periods of waxing but they seem to be mostly around the full moon and if not we already knew they were coming due to a food exposure etc. All I can say: there is hope, this is not the same child as when I first began this journey and he's 10, according to research shouldn't he be on the rise as prepubescence creeps in? I am so grateful to everyone who ever gave advice or just an "I know what your feeling". Thank you all. Megan


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