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Claire, There is a post here somewhere about lead paint on dishes from Target. A while ago, parents were buying the lead testing kits at hardware stores. They were reporting that different area's (colors) on the same plate tested positive when other area's tested negative. Also, older bath tubs were testing positive. Kim

Hi PACIFIC, If you look on the first page, you will see FINDING MEDICAL HELP right above the thread topics. Sheila Rogers has provided some helpful info. there. Here is a link from that post. The American Academy of Environmental Medicine. www.aaem.com Kim

By Jan Hefler Inquirer Staff Writer http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/15522061.htm Seven weeks after the mercury-contaminated Kiddie Kollege day-care center closed, a 5-year-old Franklin Township girl still has seizures, unexplained rashes, mysterious illnesses and peeling skin on her fingers and toes, which her attorney says are linked to inhaling the toxic metal...

Claire, Did the test come back? I'm thinking that this test is going to be the preferred way to look at total mercury load in the very near future. Have you been able to get into the files section of ASD solutions to get Dr. Nataf's notes (not sure I got his name right there). This article doesn't give a lot of information, but to keep it all in one place, I thought I'd start a thread on it. Interview with Dr. Boyd E. Haley: Biomarkers supporting mercury toxicity as the major exacerbator of neurological illness, recent evidence via the urinary porphyrin tests Here is the complete abstract: http://www.medicalveritas.com/images/BHInterview.pdf From the sounds of it (from your post on another thread) your test must not include as many biomarkers as some. This has been discussed on ASD solutions. Some people have paid as high as $325.00, I believe. I'll be on the look out, for any posts regarding this. It's possible too, that all of the tests/markers aren't necessary, if you are looking for less extensive information. Here is just a snipet, from a parents post: coproporphyrin level(lead) at 783 when the range is 50- 80 and a precoporphyrin level (mercury) of 53 when the range is 2-5 She was questioning how her son could possibly be doing as well as he is, being this toxic. Not the first time, you and your son, be the pioneers here! Kim

From the 2nd link Chemar posted: http://www.apa.org/releases/children_meds.html Interesting that the Hib vaccine (3-4) doses from ages of 2 mos. through 15 mos. was first recommended for infants in 1988 and Hep B (3 doses) birth dose + 2 more, recommended for all newborn infants in 1991. 6 additional vaccines during the time period shortly preceeding this explosion of antipsychotic drug use. http://www.909shot.com/Timeline/timeline.htm 1988 Hib added to schedule 1988 Vaccine Injury Compensation Program Funded 1990 conjugate Hib vaccine licensed 1991 recombinant Hepatitis B recommended for all newborn infants and children

I had posted a while back that Daniel had sent me some information which could explain why fish oil caused some people to tic more, while apprearing to be helpful for others. I went back and found most of what he had sent. From Bonnie's site http://www.bonniegr.com/Interview%20with%20Bonnie.htm NMDA receptor activation leads to increased release of dopamine in the striatum and modulates dopaminergic transmission in the striatum involving the D2 dopamine receptors implicated in TS. In a study by McGrath, a mouse model of comorbid TS and OCD was produced by increasing brain glutamatergic activity. The next year I added EPA and DHA (essential fatty acids found in fish oil) to his regimen because of the studies showing that magnesium deficiency causes essential fatty acid deficiencies and another study showing that dopamine was inhibited from binding to D2 receptors by fish oil. Grape seed extract was needed as an additional antioxidant to help heal oxidative damage from a possible magnesium deficiency, combat allergy, and to prevent auto-oxidization of DHA and EPA in the gut. An interesting thing occurred, he immediately started completing and handing in his homework on time. His grades improved greatly and he no longer needed his allergy shots. From this article: ADVANCES IN UNDERSTANDING BRAIN CIRCUITS RESPONSIBLE FOR TICS IN TOURETTE'S SHED LIGHT ON DISORDER http://apu.sfn.org/index.cfm?pagename=news_102504b Knowing that dopamine antagonist drugs reduce the tics associated with Tourette's and that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors reduce the symptoms of obsession and compulsions, Roger Albin, MD, and colleagues at the University of Michigan department of neurology investigated the idea that the ventral striatum¡a brain region where both dopamine and serotonin have important functions¡could be involved in Tourette's syndrome. THEN http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr...+to+d2+receptor Chalon and coworkers increased the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 PUFA by using fish oil plus palm oil in the diet (50). This resulted in increased dopamine receptors as well as increased dopamine levels in the cerebral cortex. By contrast, however, this dietary strategy also decreased both ambulatory activity and dopamine binding in the striatum. In humans the striatum is activated by stimuli associated with reward, but also by aversive, novel, unexpected or intense stimuli, and cues associated with such events. Recent fMRI evidence[citation needed] suggests that the common property linking these stimuli, to which the striatum is reacting, is saliency under the conditions of presentation. A number of other brain areas and circuits are also related to reward, including the nucleus accumbens and other frontal areas. The main efferent target of the striatum is the pallidonigral system, which is primarily inhibited by GABAergic synapses from the striatum. The main afferent region to the striatum, through the thalamus, is the cortex by two separate channels: one through the medial pallidum to VO and from there to the SMA and another through the nigra reticulata to VA and from there to the frontal and the oculomotor cortex . Cortical pyramidal neurons (glutamatergic) project to the striatum, exciting striatal neurons. The substantia nigra projects dopaminergic axons to the striatum via the nigrostriatal pathway (a part of the medial forebrain bundle in rat no such entity exists anymore in primates). While cortical axons synapse mainly on spine heads of spiny neurons, nigral axons synapse mainly on spine shafts. Metabotropic dopamine receptors are present both on spiny neurons and on cortical axon terminals. Second messenger cascades triggered by activation of these dopamine receptors can modulate pre- and postsynaptic function, both in the short term and in the long term. Parkinson's disease results from loss of dopaminergic innervation to the striatum (and other basal ganglia) and to the cascade of consequences . It is also thought that addiction involves plasticity at striatal synapses.

These are notes that Hiliary took from the Autism One radio interview. The reference to braces in this made me cringe. I thought I was getting immune to cringing after reading many of these things, but I guess not. Kim Stan Kurtz interviews Boyd Haley - 20060911 - AutismOne Radio (Stan is in italics) Mercury is the 2nd most neurotoxic substance on the planet. Should it really be in amalgams and vaccines? A recent report in the news says that the panel reviewing amalgams has rejected a government study saying mercury is safe. It goes on to say that dentists and their patients should still have the option to use mercury though. Stan started Children's Corner school to keep kids away from toxins, and to improve their health with diets and educating parents. Dr Haley used to receive funding from NIH, until he started speaking out about mercury and toxicity. Dr Haley was formerly the chair of chemistry at U of Kentucky. [stan]Are they still supportive? The deans there tried to do something about me, but I haven't done anything wrong, I tell it as it is, and they can't get me to be quiet. If you don't believe me, have a debate. The dental associations run away from that debate. [stan]When did mercury first get into amalgams? Early 1800s. The Chinese invented amalgams, then in France they were trying to bring it in and it was run out, then run out of London. Then amalgams came to the US. It was known to be toxic, but it was cheap, and worked really well (killed the nerves). But the problem is they put off a constant toxic vapor that causes systemic problems. Dentists are taught that the mercury coming out of these fillings is not toxic! In the porphyrin profile, they're finding 85% of dentists are acutely affected by dealing with the mercury in amalgams. The dentists are saying, wait, we were told it's safe; but the porphyrins are saying otherwise. Dentists have a high suicide rate. Mercury makes you a mad hatter. Antibiotics increases the retention of mercury in the human body. If you inject rats with mercury, the ones with antibiotic too will keep the mercury 100 days longer. So we know in an animal model antibiotic increases the mercury retention. Antibiotics dramatically increase the ability of mercury to kill neurons. Female sex hormone decreases toxicity of mercury, testosterone increases it. Noone can say what is a safe level of mercury. We don't know all the mechanisms. Certain drugs, ecstasy, if you look up how to make it on the web, mercury chloride is a catalyst. They say "rinse it 3 times and it's all gone"!? No, not at all!! These folks are probably making themselves very mercury-toxic. Mercury combined with certain types of fungus can have a synergistic relationship. Periodontal Disease and halitosis is worse with mercury amalgams. This is because there are compounds that form from cysteine and methionine which contain sulfar. Methionine breaks down, you form methyl thiole mercury and dimethyl thiole mercury, these are very toxic. There was a professor that spilled 2 drops of dimethyl mercury on her glove, and died from it. They knew she was dying, and why, and couldn't stop it. That's what you make when you combine mercury amalgams with periodontal disease. Do our kids have bacterial overgrowth first, then get hit with the mercury in vaccines? That's a possibility, I don't know the answer. I do know, if you expose these children to ethyl mercury, the immune system is overwhelmed. [stan]When you do a hair analysis, these kids have low mercury, and high uranium. My son was at .94, which is 15x the safe amount of uranium. The age-matched controls (siblings) of these kids don't have high uranium from what we're seeing. Cadmium tends to be high too in these kids. I was wondering if these high metals are from the bacterial flora. Mercury binds so tight it never makes it to the blood to make it to your hair. It binds so tight that it prevents you from detoxing these other metals. The child loses their detox capability. You've testified so many times, CDC, IOM, etc. What's your experience with these groups? A lot of these people are not scientists. I see blank looks on their faces. They don't have toxicologists on their committees. They stack the committees with people like themselves, and they don't want to admit they did something wrong. They make bad decisions year after year for 70 years, and they're not going to say that. They are beaurocrats, they are fighting tooth and nail to keep us from knowing the dangers of mercury toxicity. They protect themselves by forming committees. They make their credentials sound really good. They hand-pick the committee members. Then they put in the paper that a blue-ribbon committee declares thimerosal is safe. It's misinformation. Epidemiological studies in Europe that weren't exposed to the same amount of thimerosal. Danish studies. Why would they go to Denmark? This is the place they could get the answer they wanted. They took the mercury out of vaccines, and the autism rates went up?!? That's a ridiculous find. And then, wouldn't the Danish govt rush to put thimerosal back in vaccines, if it keeps the autism rates lower? It's just crazy. The study was done by a group that makes vaccines with thimerosal, and they sell it to the rest of the world, because it's illegal to use thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark. Even in England, when they presented this study, the English took thimerosal out of their vaccines. Where is the disconnect in the US? How did they show the autism rates rose in Denmark? Statistics. You can get an epidemiologist to do whatever you want with the numbers. The CDC lost data right after they published their study. Why is that ok? If the study can't be reproduced because the data is lost, doesn't that make the study useless? This is all impossible to believe, it's too big a deal. It's all about money. Money. Pharmaceutical companies save money by putting thimerosal in vaccines. I didn't want to believe the things I was told early on. I couldn't believe in 70 years the FDA didn't test amalgams to make sure they were safe. But under testimony, they admitted it. They said they take the words of the experts, the ADA – but they're not toxicologists! Then the ADA said they know it's safe because the FDA approved it. So you get smoke and mirrors. Dave Weldon bill will make the NIH look at unvaccinated population, because they don't seem to have autism. That's something I proposed the first time I met with the IOM. Dan Olmsted has looked into this in his reporting, it appears the unvaccinated don't have autism. Weldon also wants the safety testing taking out of the same agency that makes the vaccine schedule. The flu shot doesn't decrease the rate of flu in the young and the elderly, yet the government is saying vaccinate. There were a bunch of mumps vaccines that didn't work, so instead of admitting they didn't work, they made these people vaccinate 2 or 3 times. Why didn't they check antibodies to find out why? I used to test rabbits, and over time most make antibodies, but some never do. If the pharmaceuticals claim they won't make vaccines because there's no market, great, have the government make the vaccines. A lot of countries have stopped using mercury amalgams. EPA and other agencies are saying 8-10% of our mothers are so toxic they will have a child with neurological issues. 1 out of 6 kids do have neurological issues. There's cause and effect. But they do nothing. ADA will go down as one of the biggest crimes against humanity. Not the original decision to use amalgams, but now knowing better and continuing to use them. It's an economical thing. You have to destroy more of the tooth; you're more likely to crack the tooth; and they're toxic. No good reason to use mercury amalgams. I rented a mercury meter and tested all the moms in my school. I found besides amalgams the braces were leeching mercury. 80% had mercury leeching. About 20% of the amalgams didn't seem to be leeching. A handful of chronic drinkers had a 0 reading every time, it was strange that they weren't leeching. Egg would bind up the mercury, but I wouldn't know why alcohol would. Maybe there's an explanation, I just don't know it. It's possible it's just not coming out in vapor, but it's still leeching. It would be interesting to look at cancer levels of dentists. Oxidative stress is a major cancer link, and mercury takes away your protection from oxidative stress. Glutathione fights to get rid of the mercury. Alzheimers. This is a big coverup. Several other researchers have found this besides me. We found 3 proteins dramatically effected in the brain. Mercury and only mercury would mimic this effect. You can find anything else this toxic in the brain that would cause this? No, no other heavy metals would do this, no other toxins, this is mercury. At first I thought it was a likely suspect, but was it really the cause of Alzheimers? Having amalgams for 50 years will do that. When you propose this, however you get a ton of opposition. There's no money to be made off saying mercury causes Alzheimers. No money for the drug companies. They make money off drugs to treat Alzheimers. 90% of mercury in your body comes from dental amalgams, not the fish you eat. This is allowed to exist because the government works for those who make money off dental amalgams and vaccines. When numerous people point out the mercury issues and the governmenet refuses to study it, it's criminal. The pharmaceutical companies and the ADA lobby, they wave their dollars in front of government so no one hears the truth. Some doctors have spoken to me off camera, and they're worried about lawsuits, even though they know mercury is not safe. They will talk about it when they retire. While they're still in practice, the insurance companies don't want them to talk about it. What will it take for them to talk about it? I don't know. I know that not all dentists in the US think mercury is safe. We have a lot of profit-motivated people in this country. That's why things don't change. When they did this recent test of kids who got amalgams, the kids were no longer able to excrete the mercury after 2 years…and in the news they skewed that to say the kids must be ok because they're not excreting any more mercury then the kids without amalgams. Porphyrin profiles are abnormal in dentists. Dentists don't make enough porphyrin. Dr Nataf in France was able to do this in France. Autistic children have this same abnormal porphyrin profile. Mercury causes this. Dr Haley lost funding when he started going after the mercury issues. I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but why do they keep pumping mercury into everything? Money. Pediatricians make about half their money off shots, why would they give that up? They don't want kids getting chelation therapy because it implicates the shots were toxic. It was the doctors that announced the autism epidemic, by the way. It was the parents. The porphyrin profile study from Dr Nataf was rejected twice by American Academy of Pediatrics – it was accepted by Journal of Psychiatry. It's because they don't want to admit thimerosal is the problem. I know I'm condemning the doctors, but why don't they come out and debate? They run and hide, and say "trust me, I'm a doctor". I think autism might debunk western medicine. I think they'll believe they can't believe what they thought before. There are parents that know more about autism and vaccines and better treatments then about any medical doctor that I talk to. The general pediatrician doesn't have a clue about autism. The parents do. The pharmaceutical companies are making the doctors not needed, just give the purple pill. It's a shame, because there's nothing like a good medical doctor. But many today are just drug dealers. I'm going on 66. I went to a doctor's office recently, the nurse couldn't believe I was 66 and not taking ANY pills. I think Vioxx is making a few more people open their eyes. You don't need a pill for everything. Diet and exercise will do it. If we don't realize that soon, we'll be a VERY unhealthy nation. We're ranked near the bottom of nations. Our longevity is not good in the US. I test my blood pressure often, and it really varies. If I went to a doctor, he'd put me on a pill. But it's totally normal to vary. Not one toxicologist in the IOM – they're all epidemiologists. The chairman was saying that the CDC wants the IOM to find thimerosal safe. What does that tell you? I was a soldier. I had to take a bunch of vaxes in 1969. I got very sick. Didn't think much of it. In 1975, I was a professor. I wanted to wear contact lenses. I thought I was going to die from having lenses in my eyes. There was a preservative in the lens, and I reacted. Since I was a chemist, I found I was allergic to thimerosal. That's how I started looking into this. I don't get flu shots, my wife has to take them because she's a nurse. I wouldn't get the flu, she would! This is when she was young, she doesn't take shots anymore. ALS patients (Lou Gehrig's) – were missing a protein. Wanted to look into Gulf War Syndrome. The French didn't get Gulf War Syndrome, they didn't get vaccinated. So they asked Dr Haley to look into it. I then remembered about thimerosal. When other countries met with vaccine experts from England and US, and mercury was brought up, they ridiculed US/England for using mercury in their vaccines. England/US said we don't use mercury, we use thimerosal. Then on a break, they looked up what thimerosal is. You could hear a pin drop. 1999 Verstraten study – they tried to get rid of the thimerosal theory. But Verstraten found a link. In 1999 they said let's take thimerosal out of vaccines. Verstraten kept manipulating the data. The last one finally they got data that showed thimerosal isn't causal…and then they published and lost all the data! There's no doubt in my mind that someone orchestrated that they should destroy that data. With that many people working on it, you're telling me noone has a copy? They were told to destroy it. Epidemiology in the US today is like being a lawyer, use the numbers to prove what you want. If there is no ethical standard there, it's not worth paying attention to epidemiological studies. I advocate for anti-viral therapies. I treated my son with this, and he's recovered. Some parents use DMSA and valtrex and diflucan and get double the mercury pulls. I also did a flu shot experiment, I found my hands and feet excreted the most mercury. When I had my fever/flu from the shot, I had no mercury vapors. With the virus on board, the body seemed to have a hard time dumping metals. Seems to me that it's harder to get mercury out with an active virus on board. When you take thimerosal, you release mercury and thiosalicylate it prevents excretion. When you have the flu, you have no energy. You have viral dna and rna replicating. You have no ATP levels. Autistic kids often have viruses. Would it make sense for a practitioner to do anti-viral therapy along with chelation therapy? I believe in results. You do the experiments. The IOM and NIH are saying don't do any studies that show mercury is causal. You need to do these studies with folks that don't have a vested interest in proving mercury is not causal. If you have the flu and take the vaccine, you can't detox properly…but doctors will do that anyway, they will vaccinate when you are sick. Do the experiments, do the studies, this needs to be looked at. Vitamin C and glutathione IV needs to be studied – I can't get that study. I'm not a medical doctor, and I can't get someone to study that. This is safe, it won't hurt anyone, but if you send this to NIH or any universities, they don't want to hear this. We need to look at Amish versus vaccinated population. There is a huge amount of patent money for nasal drugs, that's the best way to absorb. Methyl B12, there's good reason to believe that's a great way to absorb it. The methyl cobalamin needs to be supplemented if you're mercury-toxic, the body can't make it. Our health (my family) has increased dramatically from removing amalgams, stopping taking flu shots, and being careful about which fish we eat. You're working on a chelator? Yes. People have been making compounds for all the mercury in the environment, from power plants and such. I found some compounds that work pretty well, but aren't water-soluble. So I used those compounds, coupled them with glutathione and cysteine, now they're water-soluble and they go into the fatty tissues and bind to mercury very tightly. With typical chelators, they pull minerals at the same time. We tested on goldfish. The goldfish died with mercury. Then with mercury plus this compound, the goldfish didn't die. And we tested with the compound alone, it's not toxic. Next we're moving to mice. If that works, then we will try primates if we can. Most of the mercury goes into your fatty tissues. We need something to cross the blood-brain barrier. We need something better and safer then what was made in the 1940's - that's what I'm trying to do. How long until you're in a place where the chelator will be available? I don't know, I can't say. I'm thinking I might not get it approved in the US, based on the hostility generated towards me or anyone that thinks mercury is toxic here in the US. I might have to go to Mexico. Right now to see if your urine is mercury-toxic, you have to ship your urine to Paris, France. You can't do it in the US. I feel like this is the 18-year argument with the town drunk. There's a load of people that belong on a plaque for the Autism-hall-of-fame. The amount of damage done by mercury, between autism and alzheimers, is staggering. People ask Gerberding to change things, and she just thumbs her nose at them, and gets away with it. Government is definitely not perfect. We need to be vigilant. Pharmaceuticals didn't run the papers 50 years ago. We need to see this change – they shouldn't be able to advertise the little purple pill. They shouldn't be able to keep saying mercury doesn't cause autism on tv, when they don't know. Go out there and vote. Get Bill Frist out of congress. Use your vote. We need an educated population.

Guess there's quite a bit of concern in India too. To: HE Sri A P J Abdul Kalam, Hon'ble President of India, Rashtrapati Bhawan, New Delhi. Dt: 10.09.2006 Most Respected Sir, Please accept my sincere pranam. In spite of our repeated appeals and inspite of the fact that todays edition of the Times of India states that the number of autistic children in India has crossed the 40 lakh mark, and is growing at an alarming rate, the doctors are not willing to reconsider their decision to stop the process of mass vaccinations. The doctors, at the inauguration ceremony of the National Centre of Autism, inaugurated by UPA Chairperson Respected Ms Sonia Gandhi, have conceded that autism is a possible consequence of mercury poisoning. Mercury is a prime component of vaccines along with other heavy metals and neurotoxins and is also suspected to be the the prime cause behind the fact that 1 in 6 children today suffer from some sort of neurological or behavioural disorder. They have also conceded that there is no cure for the condition and that prevention is the only option to stem the rapid growth of the autism epidemic all over the globe. Vaccines are also said to be behind the explosion of autoimmune disorders like diabetes and cancers as they tinker with the natural immune system of the body as well as have introduced the simian virus SV 40 into humans. Vaccines are supposed to have introduced many animal viruses, 60 approximately, out of which only SV 20 and SV 40 have been identified so far. Senior doctors and paediatricians have also taken pains to point out that vaccines are being introduced in India without adequate testing of the same and that this puts Indian children and growing adults at great risk of vaccines furtively designed as instruments of biological warfare as well as forcible population control. Sir, we can no longer wait till the medical fraternity decides to intervene, stop vaccinations, and prevent our children from being maimed and killed. Though senior doctors have repeatedly warned the Health Ministry against the above dangers, the officials are still sleeping on the issue for reasons best known to them. We have therefore decided to protect our interests by introducing a document, detailed below, to be signed by every physician, whether at their clinics, or at the vaccine camps, declaring that vaccines are safe, that they are aware of the vaccine ingredients, that they have arranged for tests ensuring their safety and also that they are sure that the particular child is at considerable risk from the disease against which the vaccine is being administered. We hope Sir, that the doctors too eager to subject our children to vaccines, will have no reason to refuse to sign such a document in the interest of the children they are so eager to "protect". I plead unto you to kindly request the Health Ministry to put its seal upon the document and circulate it amongst the health officials, doctors and healthcare assistants and other professionals in charge of the vaccination process. We sincerely hope Sir that your Highness will take adequate steps in this regard. Forty lakh autistic children, their parents and well wishers, as well as persons otherwise affected by vaccines, and the dead souls who have left this earthly plane prematurely due to vaccine after effects, are eagerly awaiting your early decision in this regard. We have very great faith on you Sir, kindly do not let us down. Most respectfully yours, Jagannath Chatterjee, Vaccine Damage Victim, Health Reform Activist. encl: Format of Physicians Warranty of Vaccine Safety. cc: Sri Dr Manmohan Singh, Revered Prime Minister of India - With a request to form a speacial unbiasedexpert committee to probe the role of vaccines in childhood as well as adult autoimmune disorders Madam Sonia Gandhi, Chairperson, UPA - Thank you Ma'am for looking into the interests of autistic children and taking speacial efforts for their welfare. Srimat Swami Gahananandaji Maharaj, President, Ramakrishna Math & Mission - With pranams at your Holy Feet Sangha Guruji and seeking your blessings. I wish to apprise your Holiness of the situation. I am an initiated devotee of Srimat Swami Ranganathanandaji Maharaj and have learnt to love India from Him. Sri Somnath Chatterjee, Hon'ble Speaker, Lok Sabha. Sri L K Advani, Leader of Opposition - With a request to kindly raise the issue at the proper venue. Sri Y K Sabharwal, Hon'ble Chief Justice, Supreme Court of India, Sri Dr Anbumani Ramadoss, Hon'ble Minister of Health & FW - With a request to kindly study the document presented and improve upon it as per needs. Smt Panabaka Lakshmi, State Minister of Health & FW Sri Prasanna Kumar Hota, Secretary, Department of Health, Secretary, Department of Family Welfare, Director, Department of AYUSH - With a request to kindly follow up. Director, Central Council of Homoeopathy, Director, Central Council for Research in Homeopathy - With a request to kindly apprise the concerned officials about the alternative options of immunisation. Dr Leo Rebello, Director, Natural Health Centre, Mumbai - To kindly follow up with your meeting with Dr Ramadoss at Canada on the vaccine issue. Ms Sunita Narain, Centre for Science and Environment. - To kindly widen your investigation into mercury in vaccines to include the other heavy metals, carcinogens, neurotoxins and contaminated serum. I am sure you will get the required cooperation to avail of the laboratory facilities of our Govt. Swami Ramdev, Chancellor, Divya Yoga University - With a request to suggest alternative methods of increasing the natural immunity of the body. Chairman, National Human Rights Commission - To kindly ensure the Right to Life and Good Health to all the Citizen of Democratic India. Enclosure: Physician´s Warranty of Vaccine Safety ---------------------------------------------------------- [Designed after a similar petition submitted to the CDC, USA for consideration by Congressmen, parents of vaccine damaged children and their legal advocates] I (Physician´s name, degree)_____ _________ _________ __, _____ am a physician licensed to practice medicine in India . My registration number is ____________ ___ .My medical specialty is ____________ _________ _ . I have a thorough understanding of the risks and benefits of all the medications that I prescribe for or administer to my patients. In the case of (Patient´s name) ____________ _________ ______ , age ____________ _____ , whom I have examined, I find that certain risk factors exist that justify the recommended vaccinations. The following is a list of said risk factors and the vaccinations that will protect against them: Risk Factor/ Vaccination ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _____ ____________ _________ ___ I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers: · aluminum hydroxide · aluminum phosphate · ammonium sulfate · amphotericin B · animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, · dog kidney, monkey kidney, · chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg · calf (bovine) serum · betapropiolactone · fetal bovine serum · formaldehyde · formalin · gelatin · glycerol · human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) · hydrolized gelatin · mercury thimerosol · monosodium glutamate (MSG) · neomycin · neomycin sulfate · phenol red indicator · phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) · potassium diphosphate · potassium monophosphate · polymyxin B · polysorbate 20 · polysorbate 80 · porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein · residual MRC5 proteins · sorbitol · sucrose · tri(n)butylphosphat e, · VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and · washed sheep red blood and, hereby, warrant that these ingredients are safe for injection into the body of my patient. Reports to the contrary, such as reports that mercury thimerosol causes severe neurological and immunological damage, are not credible. I am aware that some vaccines have been found to have been contaminated with Simian Virus 40 (SV 40) and that SV 40 is causally linked by some researchers to non-Hodgkin´s lymphoma and mesotheliomas in humans as well as in experimental animals. I hereby give my assurance that the vaccines I employ in my practice do not contain SV 40 or any other live viruses. (Alternately, I hereby give my assurance that said SV-40 virus or other viruses pose no substantive risk to my patient.) I hereby warrant that the vaccines I am recommending for the care of (Patient´s name) ____________ ___ ____________ _________ __ do not contain any tissue from aborted human babies (also known as "fetuses"). In order to protect my patient´s well being, I have taken the following steps to guarantee that the vaccines I will use will contain no damaging contaminants. STEPS TAKEN: ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____ I have personally investigated the causes for adverse vaccine reaction and I'm sure that the vaccines I am recommending are safe for administration to a child under the age of 5 years. The following studies have been performed to demonstrate the safety of vaccines in children under the age of 5 years. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ _____ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ _____ ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ _____ In Case of Hep B Vaccine. "Physician´s Reasons for Determining the Invalidity of Adverse Scientific Opinions." Hepatitis B I understand that 60% of patients who are vaccinated for Hepatitis B will lose detectable antibodies to Hepatitis B within 12 years. I understand that 50% of patients who contract Hepatitis B develop no symptoms after exposure. I understand that 30% will develop only flu-like symptoms and will have lifetime immunity. I understand that 20% will develop the symptoms of the disease, but that 95% will fully recover and have lifetime immunity. I understand that 5% of the patients who are exposed to Hepatitis B will become chronic carriers of the disease. I understand that 75% of the chronic carriers will live with an asymptomatic infection and that only 25% of the chronic carriers will develop chronic liver disease or liver cancer, 10-30 years after the acute infection. In addition to the recommended vaccinations as protections against the above cited risk factors, I have recommended other non-vaccine measures to protect the health of my patient and have enumerated said non-vaccine measures on Exhibit D , attached hereto, "Non-vaccine Measures to Protect Against Risk Factors." I am issuing this Physician´s Warranty of Vaccine Safety in my professional capacity as the attending physician to (Patient´s name) ____________ _________ _________ __. Regardless of the legal entity under which I normally practice medicine, I am issuing this statement in both my business and individual capacities and hereby waive any statutory, Common Law, Constitutional, UCC, international treaty, and any other legal immunities from liability lawsuits in the instant case. I issue this document of my own free will after consultation with competent legal counsel whose name is ____________ _________ ________, an attorney admitted to the Bar in the State of ____________ ______ . ____________ _________ _________ ____ (Name of Attending Physician) ____________ _________ _________ ____ (Signature of Attending Physician) Signed on this _______ day of ____________ __ A.D. ________ Witness: ____________ _________ _________ _____ Date: ____________ _________ ___ Notary Public: ____________ _________ _________ Date: ____________ _________ ___

I read a post tonight by a Mom who said that her DAN prescribed homeopathic remedies called Pleo Reb and Pleo Forte, for treating strep in the gut. Just thought I'd pass that on. I've never heard of either product.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1308572006 Treatment with 'friendly' bacteria could counter autism in children

Chemar, You could have knocked me over with a feather when I started reading tonight. You are so young looking and lovely! I just thought you'd be lovely in a different way. You were supposed to have short hair, and maybe be a little "plump," you know, in a comforting sort of way, like your posts! No one can have all of that grace and wisdom and look like that! You HAD to be older looking Now you've really got me wondering about Carolyn, Giselle, Allison, Claire, etc. My mental picture of them is probably all wrong too.

From another forum.......... For those who may be interested...visit http://www.autismlink.com/store Renowned cater and chef Lori Karavolis has finally come out with cookbook #2 -- completely GF/CF for kids! This new 130-page cookbook has hundreds of recipes adapted by a chef and mom of a child with autism! These fantastic recipes are all GF/CF!!! Selections include: All American Picnic Skillet Goody Goody Gumdrop Cookies Fudgie Wudgies Mini Cornbread Muffins BBQ Pot Roast Lemon Raspberry Muffins Chicken Pot Pie Super Bowl Chili Chicken Stew w/Dumplings ....and tons more!

I'm sure Carolyn and Claire are aware, but for anyone else reading, be sure that you buy baking powder that's ALUMINUM free. I just bought a brand called Rumford Premium Aluminum free. It's also gluten free, but does contain corn starch.

Giselle, I was so glad to see you return, and have been following your London adventure. So sorry to hear that Hoyt is having a rough time right now. I think a lot of us are right there with you in spirit. Will be praying for good news. Kim

http://www.sierratimes.com/06/08/31/75_8_32_233_47394.htm Big Pharma Bankrupting US Health Care System Evelyn Pringle in many cases doctors write off-label prescriptions based on limited or anecdotal evidence. Where have I heard this term before? Hmmmmmm It's pretty obvious that these issues can and do effect ALL OF US, whether it's the "health" of our heath care system, the vulnerabilities we face as we age, or what we may or may not be informed of, regarding the use of these drugs. Kim

Evie, Thought I would send you this link. This page from Dana's site has tons of links for groups and idea's for GFCF. Just scroll down about an inch to the Diet section. http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#diet

Ronna, I had actually read some Pub Med studies (one in particular) that seemed to be saying exactly what you did in your post. I started thinking that maybe Alison's son's titer levels were not necessarily abnormal for him. Then, I started to wonder why he seemed to react favorably to the introduction of a different antibiotic, or negatively when the dose of a current one was lowered. It seems to be distinctly correlated most of the time, from what I gather. [ This sounds like the same language in one of the studies. This makes sense too. It will be interesting to see if Alison sees a relationship to what would be a suspected strep flair, which I'm assuming would be a more distinct reaction, or possibly a different "bug," maybe viral (?), in which case the antibiotic would not be a big factor in worsening or improvement in symptoms. Evie's post kind of fits into this pattern too. A secondary condition (gluten and casein sensitivities) in addition to a PANDAS problem, which would go back to your statement about "being primed to overreact." Alison's post gave me a boost to try to get a little more educated on this subject since both of my boys have a history of strep, and tics and I have always wondered how so many things can be overlapping, but never what I would call an over night exacerbation. I did learn a lot, but some of the lines defining this as two separate syndromes still remain a bit fuzzy for me. Thanks for your informative post, as always. Hope you get some rest! Kim

Wow Carolyn, that's a lot of info. to absorb. I bet you're thrilled to see the metals comming out, and get the adjustments needed to keep the improvements going. Thanks for posting the amino acids results. Btwn your results and Claire's post, I guess I would feel o.k. about just doing urine initially. Could you tell me which test indicated the problem with protein metabolism? It sounds like you have a really good Doctor. I'm so happy for you, and insurance coverage to boot! Kim

Alison, Have the Dr.s ever said how many kids they have seen with this type of problem? Have you discussed the usual outcome? Do they out grow it? Do they think that there is a chance of creating a "super bug"? From the segment: Antigenic variation Pathogenic bacteria can vary (change) other surface proteins, especially outer membrane proteins, that are the targets of antibodies. There are 80 different antigenic types of Streptococcus pyogenes based on M-proteins on the cell surface. M proteins are unique to each strain and identification can be used clinically to confirm the strain causing an infection. One way bacteria can avoid forces of the immune response is by periodically changing antigens, i.e., to undergo antigenic variation If the immune response is the main defense against a pathogen, then being able to shed old antigens and present new ones to the immune system might allow infection or continued invasion by the pathogen to occur. Furthermore, the infected host would seem to be the ideal selective environment for the emergence of new antigenic variants of bacteria. Has your sons strain been identified? Has it remained consistent? Is it possible that rotating antibiotics could be helpful? Sort of, hit it with different antibiotics, more frequently before it has a chance to make the changes that could be protecting it? Just a thought Kim

Alison, I'm trying find time for a reply. Will get back soon. Kim

Hi Kelly, momto3ts and Samsmom, Samsmom, I have to tell you what a super, awesome, wonderful post that was Congratulations on trying to find out what the source of the problem is for your children. I'm doing the same thing with my two boys, ages 9 and 13. I personally think that we all found this site for a reason. Thank you for deciding to share all of your stories. Again, welcome. You're in good company! Kim

Alison, If you have a little spare time today (lol) you might want to read through these too. I think I have a pretty good idea now of how your son's titers could remain elevated, and why a particular antibiotic could be effective at reducing symptoms, and then lose it effectiveness. Let me know what you think! I tried to condense things as much as possible, but reading the whole articles may be necessary to get out of it, what I did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptococcus_pyogenes Streptococcus pyogenes is a Gram-positive bacterium that grows in long chains depending on the culture method.[1] S. pyogenes displays group A antigen on its cell wall and beta-hemolysis when cultured on blood agar plate. S. pyogenes typically produces large zones of beta-hemolysis, the complete disruption of erythrocytes and the release of hemoglobin, and it is therefore called Group A (beta-hemolytic) Streptococcus (abbreviated GAS). S. pyogenes has several attributes that make it more virulent.[2] A carbohydrate capsule surrounds the bacterium, protecting it from attack by macrophages (part of the immune system). Further, there are proteins, lipoteichoic acids, embedded within the capsule (M protein) that also increase virulence by facilitating attachment to host cells.[3] M protein inhibits a branch of the immune system called the complement system, which binds to and destroys invading bacteria. However, the M protein is also the weakest point in this organism's defense as this is what antibodies produced by the immune system use to recognize the bacterium. M proteins are unique to each strain and identification can be used clinically to confirm the strain causing an infection. http://textbookofbacteriology.net/antiimmuno.html (brilliant here, took a while to figure out Ag=antigen) Tolerance is a property of the host in which there is an immunologically-specific reduction in the immune response to a given Ag. Tolerance to a bacterial Ag does not involve a general failure in the immune response but a particular deficiency in relation to the specific antigen(s) of a given bacterium. If there is a depressed immune response to relevant antigens of a parasite, the process of infection is facilitated. Tolerance can involve either AMI or CMI or both arms of the immunological response. Tolerance to an Ag can arise in a number of ways, but three are possibly relevant to bacterial infections. Fetal exposure to Ag. If a fetus is infected at certain stages of immunological development, the microbial Ag may be seen as "self", thus inducing tolerance to the Ag which may persist even after birth. 2. High persistent doses of circulating Ag. Tolerance to a bacterium or one of its products might arise when large amounts of bacterial antigens are circulating in the blood. 3. Molecular mimicry. If a bacterial Ag is very similar to normal host "antigens", the immune responses to this Ag may be weak giving a degree of tolerance. Resemblance between bacterial Ag and host Ag is referred to as molecular mimicry. In this case the antigenic determinants of the bacterium are so closely related chemically to host "self" components that the immunological cells cannot distinguish between the two and an immune response cannot be raised. Some bacterial capsules are composed of polysaccharides (hyaluronic acid, sialic acid) so similar to host tissue polysaccharides that they are not immunogenic. Antigenic Variation One way bacteria can avoid forces of the immune response is to periodically changing antigens, i.e., to undergo antigenic variation. Some bacteria avoid the host antibody response by changing from one type of fimbriae to another, or by switching fimbrial tips. This makes the original AMI response obsolete by using new fimbriae that do not bind the previous antibodies. Pathogenic bacteria can vary (change) other surface proteins, especially outer membrane proteins, that are the targets of antibodies. Antigens may vary or change within the host during the course of an infection, or alternatively antigens may vary among multiple strains (antigenic types) of a parasite in the population. Antigenic variation is an important mechanism used by pathogenic microorganisms for escaping the neutralizing activities of antibodies. Antigenic variation usually results from site-specific inversions or gene conversions or gene rearrangements in the DNA of the microorganisms. Many pathogenic bacteria exist in nature as multiple antigenic types or serotypes, meaning that they are variant strains of the same pathogenic species. For example, there are multiple serotypes of Salmonella typhimurium based on differences in cell wall (O) antigens or flagellar (H) antigens. There are 80 different antigenic types of Streptococcus pyogenes based on M-proteins on the cell surface. There are over one hundred strains of Streptococcus pneumoniae depending on their capsular polysaccharide antigens. Based on minor differences in surface structure chemistry there are multiple serotypes of Vibrio cholerae, Staphylococcus aureus, Escherichia coli, Neisseria gonorrhoeae and an assortment of other bacterial pathogens. Antigenic variation is prevalent among pathogenic viruses as well. If the immune response is the main defense against a pathogen, then being able to shed old antigens and present new ones to the immune system might allow infection or continued invasion by the pathogen to occur. Furthermore, the infected host would seem to be the ideal selective environment for the emergence of new antigenic variants of bacteria. Perhaps this explains why many bacteria exist in a great variety of antigenic types. http://www.mndaily.com/daily/2000/12/12/news/new5/ University researchers and Pennsylvania-based Wyeth-Ayerst laboratories, a division of American Home Products, are focusing on a protein on the strep bacteria which suppresses the immune response needed to combat disease. The protein is common in several different diseases. Normally, when a bacteria invades the body a signal is sent for disease-fighting cells to surround, engulf and digest the microorganism. "In simple terms, when strep bacteria in the throat starts a fire (the disease-fighting cells) dampen the fire," said University microbiologist Patrick Cleary, developer of the vaccine. This particular protein prevents the signal from being sent, allowing the bacteria to invade the mucus-lined surfaces of the body, including the throat and nose, resulting in illness. A course of antibiotics controls the bacteria. The few of these I scanned, talk about the danger of this type of vaccine inteferring with heart tissue. What about BRAIN tissue in a particular segment of the population. Some scary stuff here, as I have found with most vaccine research. Protein M and strep vaccine development http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-...G=Google+Search

Alison, I can't tell you how glad I am to help in any way possible, even if it's only to bumble through places that others have been, and explained much better than I can. Your question, and the studies that I read last night have been on my mind all day( If obsessive compulsive has crossed anyones mind, I would NOT be insulted) . The fact that your sons titers remain highly elevated, seem most likely to be caused by one of two things (?). The strep is never fully eradicated, or he has a high re-exposure rate. I was wondering if strep ( I have read about strep something or other... found in the gastro tract, when reading about probiotics), could morph, something like yeast, to become infectous, instead of living harmlessly, like other bacterias can within us. I was wondering if your son could be reinfecting himself. A little more hunting tonite, turned these up, which I though you may be interested in reading. I know there is other info. on the Yaskow site about strep, as in what blood types may be most susceptible to problems with molecular mimicky, but this was the first time I read this one. I promise it's not as complicated as the immunology site, that I posted last nite That one's a killer. I practically have to make myself a quiz on every paragraph to retain any of it! This article talks mostly about problems women have with yeast, but it did relate a bit to what I was thinking about. BTW, I do know that you're using probiotics. http://www.womentowomen.com/digestionandgihealth/probiotics.asp Of the trillions of microbes in your system, researchers have identified some — but by no means all — of the friendly flora species. Categorized through a complex process of culturing and DNA isolation, essential players include Escherichia, Lactobacillus, and Bifidobacterium. Other common inhabitants include Bacteroides, Clostridium, Fusobacterium, Eubacterium, Streptococcus and certain yeast (Candida) strains. AND Other good bacteria produce natural antibiotics and antifungals; for instance, Streptococcus salivarius manufactures an antiseptic that neutralizes the sulfur compounds responsible for bad breath (halitosis). Friendly flora also keep unfriendly bacteria in check by depriving them of nutrients and secreting acids (acetic, lactic, and formic) that create a hostile environment for pathogens. Then this..hang in there until you get about 2/3 of the way down the page. http://www.autismanswer.com/articles/yasko/autism_virus_thimerosal.html I believe that it is likely that the streptococcus permanently resides as part of the bacteria or flora in the nasopharyngeal cavity of these children who are highly susceptible to streptococci. The mucous system in our nasal passages flushes bacteria and viruses into our stomach. It is easy to see how under "compromised conditions", streptococci could survive the stomach and make its way to the intestinal tract. Gastric reflux has been implicated as a factor in ear infections.26 It is not surprising then, to note that in addition to its role in ear infections and strep throat, streptococcus has been implicated in leaky gut.27 Gut flora changes play a major role in causing the increased intestinal membrane permeability that is seen with leaky gut. Depletion of glutathione is a common occurrence in leaky gut. Streptococcal infection, or the presence of chronic or recent infection, depletes glutathione levels.28 High glutamate levels also result in the depletion of glutathione.29 Streptococcal infection is also more likely to be an issue in individuals with high glutamate levels, as glutamate is related to virulence in streptococci. Streptococcus flourishes in a high glutamate, low glutathione environment.30,31 Thus, the combined effects of changes in gut flora and depleted glutathione lay the groundwork for leaky gut. The info here about zinc and strep caught my eye too. Forgive me if this is all just old news to you. I know you have addressed many of the things talked about in this article. BTW, I think you are right at the top of the list of super mom's and pretty amazing too! I'm sure everyone here is very appreciative of the details you share. I feel like our kids are so amazing, it's wonderful to see so many people working together to try to help them (and affected adults too!) become healthier. Kim

Part 3... Never mind that last question Alison, I bet these are the types of antibodies that your talking about. Two of these are dated 2006, one is from 05. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=16455579 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...l=pubmed_docsum http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...t_uids=16356555

Alison (part two) I have been reading a little on immunology when I get some free time, and this site has been really helpful, in case you want to check it out. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...optcmdl=TOCView I was trying to find a something that would give a description on the ASO and anti-DNase tests. This gave a little overview. This was just for my benefit, in trying to understand how much information these tests give and how they work. http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/...ibody_tests.jsp Antistreptolysin O titer (ASO) The ASO titer is used to demonstrate the body's reaction to an infection caused by group A beta-hemolytic streptococci. Group A streptococci produce the enzyme streptolysin O, which can destroy (lyse) red blood cells. Because streptolysin O is antigenic (contains a protein foreign to the body), the body reacts by producing antistreptolysin O (ASO), which is a neutralizing antibody. ASO appears in the blood serum one week to one month after the onset of a strep infection. A high titer (high levels of ASO) is not specific for any type of poststreptococcal disease, but it does indicate if a streptococcal infection is or has been present. Serial (several given in a row) ASO testing is often performed to determine the difference between an acute or convalescent blood sample. The diagnosis of a previous strep infection is confirmed when serial titers of ASO rise over a period of weeks, then fall slowly. ASO titers peak during the third week after the onset of acute symptoms of a streptococcal disease; at six months after onset, approximately 30% of patients exhibit abnormal titers. Antideoxyribonuclease-B titer (anti-DNase B, or ADB) Anti-DNase-B, or ADB, also detects antigens produced by group A strep, and is elevated in most patients with rheumatic fever and poststreptococcal glomerulonephritis. This test is often done concurrently with the ASO titer, and subsequent testing is usually performed to detect differences in the acute and convalescent blood samples. When ASO and ADB are performed concurrently, 95% of previous strep infections are detected. If both are repeatedly negative, the likelihood is that the patient's symptoms are not caused by a poststreptococcal disease. * * * * * * * This is a surprise to me The way I read this, is that these tests are good indicators of strep having been present, but don't give a whole lot of info beyond that. So ASO simply tells that your body has produced antistreptolysin O, to neutralize streptolysin O. produced by the strep, and anti-Dnase detects antigens produced, again, by the strep. This was not the picture I had in mind of "high titers." Interesting! Now I'm wondering which antibodies that you were referring to at the bottom of your post, that you wondered if the antibiotic is interacting with, as opposed to the step? Has your son had another test, other than the two I was looking at here? Kim