MichaelTampa

I tried zeolite clay for a little while, okay, but didn't get too much out of it. Got much more out of detoxamin suppositories (calcium-disodium-EDTA), which also brought out lots of worms (worms surround themselves with heavy metals).

I am inclined to agree with you that there is a genetic component. But, just to pass on something I just ran across, someone saying that selenium in sufficient quantities can neutralize mercury in the body making it more harmless, but then this would deplete selenium for use in fighting infections. So, nutrition can be a part of the situation, very complicated for sure... Michael

I have heard generally that treating lyme can take care of autoimmune problems. Don't know about that specific d8/17 one you are referring to. Lyme infection can change your DNA and make you have bad responses to things, so I can see why treating lyme would reduce incidence of future autoimmune issues cropping up, but no idea why that would take care of already created ones.

I have had that. Kids tantrums certainly was not a trigger for me, as no kids, but had it from other things (kayak sinking, near drowning kind of thing). I know everyone's different, but your description of anger reminds me of the things my psychologists and I labeled "rage attacks" which were triggered by sometimes minor events of people doing things I didn't like, but what made me irritable/susceptible to them was exposure to fluorescent lights and/or wireless signals, as I had a real sensitivity to those things (have you considered that possibility for yourself?). In the lyme world, that irritability would be looked at as bartonella symptoms and did get better with that type of treatment for me. In the PTSD world, I want to mention a nice, and unfortunately very expensive, book called "Explaining 'Unexplained' Illness" by Martin Paul. (If you are wanting to borrow it, that's possible, I believe I'll be roughly in your neck of the woods the week of Aug 15-19.) He proposes a new theory of disease for situations including PTSD, discusses a variety of supplements that can help, and also oxygen therapy. I got to the oxygen therapy another way and that person recommended the book, so the book does not really discuss oxygen therapy very much, although it might in a very geeky/chemistry kind of way explain why it would be so useful for PTSD. Breathing from oxygen concentrator for 2 hrs/day for about 6 weeks really helped me a lot (this was before any lyme treatment) in terms of being a little more grounded. For me, lyme treatment started soon after that. I had man psychologist-type treatments before the oxygen/lyme treatments, and they only helped for a day or so, and Paul's view (consistent with my experience) is that PTSD is chemicals raging out of control and any variety of psychologists treatment is not going to be sufficient until the chemicals are addressed. Just tossing out some thoughts here, hopefully some are helpful, I know that out-of-control feeling can be tough! Michael

Never heard of that one. Looks like antibody of testing of some sort. http://www.jib-sdbio.fr/site/GB/LIAISON_XL,I1623,Zoom-97e72612a1a2ebbfdccf3785cf2808a9,SType-DIRECT,Start-60.htm

I use BioPure, the company that makes some of the things Dr. Klinghardt requests. They get theirs from Japan but said they had a good pre-disaster supply, like a year or two. I think a number of places probably had some supply like that. It is times like this where energy testing if a particular brand is really good for you (or which one is best for you), and things like having a company you really trust, can be important.

I have also used cholestyramine and tolerated it well and it helped some, I don't know that I would say it has helped enormously. Chlorella can also be helpful for that. I tried Welchol briefly, and it did not go as well. Welchol is filled with crap (sugars, fake sugars, chemical flavors, colors, ...) and I believe is under patent so unavailable compounded. Cholestyramine can be obtained compounded to avoid the crap.

I also use Enhansa brand (made by Lee Silsby) along with Source Naturals BioPerine (the black pepper extract), remember hearing it had been received very well in the autism community. Turmeric itself has chemicals in it that will inhibit absorption of the curcumin in it, which is the part responsible for the anti-inflamatory effects, so curcumin extract will likely perform better than whole turmeric.

Interested to hear more, heard of the silver generally for infections, but haven't heard of it sprayed for bart.

I have also heard from more than one doc in the lyme world that bell's palsy is essentially/almost always lyme, and so do recommend assuming that unless/until there is very strong evidence to the contrary. As far as what stage that means, I have not heard anything about that, but, generally, lyme can progress very slowly or very quickly, and I can't think of why development of bell's palsy would be different in that it could happen early on or late into it.

Yes, they all seem to do it a little different. My personal view is that it is a mistake to not use the cyst busting drugs all along the way. It is probably more of a mistake with IV abx.

Thanks for posting. I am currently in a bit of a crossroads stage, as I appear to be relapsing, and abx even herbs I have taken in the past are appearing as currently not useful, so nice to hear about possibilities out there to consider.

I have had, many times, the feeling of small/light bugs landing on my skin/hair and moving a little bit. Maybe that's similar, not sure. Yeah, kind of crazy overall.

I haven't heard about these being bad to take with abx. I can see why they could be helpful with abx. SAMe is often taken for mood, but can also help with liver function. NAC is a key ingredient in making glutathione, which is very important for detoxing.

I don't buy the coincidence stuff either. I do think the lyme testing is in order. Neuropsych testing, I hear can be in the $1,000+ range, but if you find a good one you might learn some things and find even more evidence of neurological issues. The neuropsych people are not all as stupid as the psychiatrists are, since it is in their nature to be testing and finding things out, whereas the psychiatrists are simply prescribers.

I have used grounding in bed sometimes. My experience is that it is not quite a panacea or making other things non-issues, but has been helpful at times. My health situation and other devices being used/not used makes it difficult to say more about it than that. Regarding the wired/wireless internet, we recently went to Verizon internet. All of their routers these days are wireless capable and wired capable. If you just use it as is, it will spew wireless signals all the time even if not using wireless. However, we had them turn the wireless aspect off, so we just use wired. It was relatively easy. They just did that to the box when they gave it to us. I put some wiring through the attic to get to other rooms in the house--not a professional job but good enough for the two of us, something I imagine an electrician or maybe a "professional handyman" could do a nice professional job of without too much trouble.

We turned off the circuit breaker at night for our bedroom for about a month. It was a little bit helpful. I don't think it's helpful these days, so we don't do it right now. We had already moved our bed to try to get it away from the worst electricity, but it is still near some. Our circuit breaker box is in our garage, so there is another place to look.

I'll tell you, I've had the IGG blood tests twice, before lyme was ever considered, and the list of foods did not, either time, correlate with the foods that seemed to cause me problems that I knew of. The list of "allergic foods" was probably 30 or so each time. The list of foods allergic to changed in ways that made little sense, if you believe the theory that exposure to the food causes the allergy or is needed to cause the allergy. I had NAET (acupuncture allergy treatment) in the meantime, and the list also did not correlate with what was treated. In short, the test results did not make any sense, did not correlate with theories people give or experiences I had with these foods, or add any value or information. Now, I have heard of people getting these tests, finding one or two problem foods, and eliminating/treating them, and it making a huge difference. I am puzzled by the whole thing. Perhaps this lyme autoimmunity screws up the test results, and the tests are useful for "regular" people? Curious what drops from Germany he is referring to. I have had some success with "Allergie-Immun" some "information" drops from Germany, to change DNA to help it better deal with foods and other substances (chemicals, heavy metlas). I have been on that treatment a while and it has helped a lot, but not done with it yet.

Another thing that can explain why lyme didn't cause as much disease back then and it does so much now -- nothing I've ever heard Dr. Klinghardt comment on -- would be the Animal Disease Research Center on Plum Island, off the coast of Long Island, and a very short bird's flight to Lyme, Connecticut. In this place, the U.S. federal government did research with borrelia, infecting various animals with it, and doing who-knows-what. Apparently, they were working on the cold war, trying to figure out a way to kill all the Russian cattle, or working on making sure the Russian's wouldn't do the same to us. It all sounds very conspiracy-theory-ish, especially when you hear that an ex-nazi-big-guy was heading the research, but the information that this happened appears to be undisputed. I heard recently they were considering moving that center, now closed, to the west somewhere (to get the bad stuff away from population?). Anyway, very possible they did create more virulent strains of lyme during this research, whether on purpose or by accident. All this could explain why lyme is more serious/difficult these days, but does not really explain why homeopathy/acupuncture aren't miraculous anymore, unless you think that all those failures are such due to lyme infection.

He talked about it some. I'm going from memory here, hearing it first-hand in early May, watching the DVD probably a a week ago, and still hard to remember everything he said. But ... When he was saying years ago, so many had the lyme (borrelia) infection, but were not sick with "lyme disease", this was in Germany several decades ago that he was referring to. I think in the same topic, he also mentioned, years ago, acupuncture was a miracle to some sick people, and homeopathy was a miracle to some sick people, and he says these days, we have to work much much harder for the equivalent healing. For sure he thinks the high EMF's, particularly the wireless signals, are a big part of what has changed. He says that every year the strength/amount of signals we are exposed to doubles, and while I don't think he said this, it is hard to not listen to him speak on the topic and not think that we are running a terribly dangerous experiment that will end very badly for people at some point, and we will be so hooked on them (as if we're not already) that it will be hard/impossible to stop/fix. Fungus react to these signals by creating substances that are much more toxic for us, and this is a significant part of why they are so bad. I have a feeling there was one or maybe two other high-level items of what he saw has changed, but do not remember anything else that he suggested as reasons. I think heavy metal poisoning may be increasing from more industrialization, and I suspect that could be a reason, but I don't have data to back that up, and don't remember him suggesting that as a reason. He is so big on treating parasites, but, again, I don't remember him suggesting the size of that problem has changed. Perhaps mold is one of these on his mind there. I do remember him saying that some u.s. president many decades ago tried to pump the idea that we all should be able to own a home ("the american dream"), and the result is homes made of wood, then wrapped with plastic, because it is cheap, but it is an excellent growing medium for mold. Hope that helps, that's what I remember right now.

Heard something like this as well recently at a conference. The number I heard was that 90% of cells were non-human. Really puts in perspective that we can't kill them all, better find some way to live with them!

At different points in time, I have had eye-blinking tics and spasms of the skin below eye (lower eye-lash?) and skin above the eye/covering the eye.

Time to give an update on my story as it relates to EMF's here. I have been very sensitive and have done a lot of avoiding the exposure to wireless. When they installed wireless at work, I could no longer work, although disability was denied and several months later I was forced back to work when that happened. By then I had just started lyme abx treatment and had purchased GiaWellness products (pendant and home harmonizer system). I struggled and just made it through work well enough on return, but was very brutal. I am sure without GiaWellness products I would not have been able to do it. My short-term memory was that bad without these products, I could not carry on a conversation, forgetting what someone was saying by the time they finished a long sentence. A few months ago, I added EarthCalm products (pendant and home system), and re-added Philip Stein watch (had used a year back but later it stopped working due to batteries and just set it aside). All these products helped, doing different things, and worked well in unison. For me, EarthCalm was strongest/best (for those wanting to try one brand and wondering which one was best for me). Then, I addressed biofilm in the neck veins causing CCSVI (the cause for many/most neuro symptoms for those with lyme and MS), and around same time had NCR (neuro cranial therapy, which is basically having a balloon quickly inflated in nasal passage to move the cranial bones into better alignment). NCR can also help treat CCSVI as improper bone placement can help things get trapped in the veins. Biofilm treatments and NCR were both very powerful for me. Suddenly, my energy testing indicates I do not need these EMF products, and am better served without them. So, I have discarded them for now, and while I am still EMF sensitive, it is way less, amazing I can have conversations at work and so on, without these now. Sensitivities continue to improve slowly, it seems. I was shocked to hear Dr. Klinghardt in May at his seminar say we should not use these things, and he referenced a study on chickens where those using these devices were happier but had more health problems and lived only half as long as those without the devices. I am still hoping to get this study to ponder more. His belief is that with these devices, the chickens did nothing to avoid/reduce exposure (by going to safe part of the lot, or whatever), so those with devices were exposed more to these harmful EMF's. GiaWellness has Kirlean (sp?) photography showing how energy flows better with these devices when exposed to EMF's, and someone pointed this out in response to his thoughts, and he replied, sure, but these devices do not fix the bloodwork and the effects that EMF has on the blood, so the help is limiting in that way. Still, as someone who would have lost his job without these devices, I think he may not be in touch with how sick we can be and how helpful these devices can be. Or perhaps I am an extremely rare exception on the end of the curve, I don't know. But at a minimum, it is excellent warning, not to carelessly let use of these devices increase exposure to EMF's which are ultimately harmful, and use them to tolerate what exposure you feel you cannot control. But work to control exposure. That is where devices to truly block these things are better, where practical (avoiding in homes, turning off when can, paint to block, silver-containing sheets/curtains/clothing/hats to block, and so on). Even with wireless phones, if you absolutely must, there are speaker devices so you can keep them further from your brain while in use. I'm not suggesting here the wireless things to plug into your ear, which would be worse, even though the phone isn't by your ear. But something truly keeping all wireless emitting devices further from your brain. Julia--can you talk more about Stetzer filters? I have heard the term, but what do they do, what do they cost, where to get them, ...?

My blood pressure has been in that lower range like yours for several years. Most doc offices find it interesting when they measure it, but when they hear it that this is what it normally is for me, it seems the case is closed and it is not that interesting anymore. I have occasionally felt light-headed and dizzy upon standing, but not as much recently. Since hearing in May at the Dr. Klinghardt seminar that people with MS and people with lyme (and likely those with myriad of other neurological disorders) all seem to have CCSVI, a blockage of veins in the neck causing their neurological symptoms, I have focused on doing what I can to eliminate that blockage and getting measure to see if I actually have it as well. During that time, I have experienced enormous relief in neurological symptoms. I have not had my b.p. measured yet, but I had been wondering if the b.p. would change if that aspect of things were cleared up. I am still working on getting the tests done for CCSVI (doppler done last Friday, MRI scheduled for this Friday, wait for appointment with doc who can read these tests goes on and on, as they have a long wait list). I really am just speculating that the b.p. has something to do with CCSVI, but it makes a lot of sense to me that it would have some effect. These veins return blood from the brain to the heart, and as the blood gets trapped, in means you have low-oxygen blood trapped in the brain, leading to neuro symptoms, and it can increase the pressure in that area.

It has helped me at times with sleeping and mood. It also can be good for liver support. I have taken it 200mg tablets one per day (breakfast) or two per day (one breakfast or lunch). I have used the Jarrow brand and found it good and heard from others that it is quality as well. They come in 200mg or 600mg, so I have a feeling my dosage is a bit on the light side. I don't know what kids dosages are.