Caution on cobalt levels

[kim]

David A. Geier Mark R. Geier

Toxicological & Environmental Chemistry, Volume 92(5):1025-103? May 2010.

 

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~d...tent=a921813911

 

The effects of methylcobalamin (vitamin B12) injection (75 µg kg-1) on

cobalt levels in autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) and potential toxic

effects of cobalt on human neurons were evaluated.

 

 

http://mercury-freedrugs.org/docs/100430_P...obaltLevels.pdf

 

An autism cohort study of cobalt levels following vitamin B12

injections

[Stephanie2]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I am going to ask our DAN doctor about this. I guess I shouldn't feel so bad that my son only gets his injection every 3 or 4 days rather than everyday the way the doc told us to do...:-)

 

Just a reminder that, in everything...moderation!

 

Stephanie

David A. Geier Mark R. Geier

Toxicological & Environmental Chemistry, Volume 92(5):1025-103? May 2010.

 

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~d...tent=a921813911

 

The effects of methylcobalamin (vitamin B12) injection (75 µg kg-1) on

cobalt levels in autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) and potential toxic

effects of cobalt on human neurons were evaluated.

 

 

http://mercury-freedrugs.org/docs/100430_P...obaltLevels.pdf

 

An autism cohort study of cobalt levels following vitamin B12

injections

[AmberM]

I found this on another forum. It doesn't sound like the study was very accurate.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/05/critica...injections.html

[marilina]

dr. Mc Candless.

 

A study just came out about the methylcobalamin form of Vit B12, concerning possible toxicity of the cobalt element. This is Dr. Jim Neubrander's reply:

 

That this article and content was to be published was nothing new to me because it first came to my attention when the Geirs presented their theory at Cherry Hill a year ago. I lecture to physicians about the flaws in this study when doing training seminars. A full discussion would take an hour or more to write so I will only list a few key points here. It is the cobalt inorganic salts that are toxic, not the organic form of cobalt that is bound on all four binding sites in the corrin ring. The more we take of B12 by any route of administration, the more that passes unchanged from the blood to the urine. If one did not find it to be high in the urine, then that would indicate a problem. Laboratories do not differentiate between organic and inorganic amounts of cobalt but report the total amount of cobalt present along with a reference range that was created for the inorganic toxic form for miners and "old fashioned beers" (no longer used). An

analogy would be to consider the total number of eggs one will be adding to a cake mix before and after it is baked and then try to compare the taste and texture of eggs to a cake. As an environmental physician, we see fairly rapid cause and effect for truly toxic agents, only one of which are heavy metals or metals in general. The effects of mercury or lead or arsenic are just as rapid and severe after exposure as are the effects from toxic amounts of poisonous chemicals. Therefore, common sense dictates that from the thousands of children I have treated, added to that the tens of thousands of children who have now been treated worldwide, if there really was a problem we would have seen it by now and that the effects would be pronounced. Exactly the opposite is what we as clinicians and parents see to be the case. Add to that incredible amount of clinical data that has and continues to be accumulated the fact that other published "clinical"

studies (not quoted in the Geir article) support the fact that higher doses are safe and possibly more effective than lower doses. All of that should be taken into account and weighed against the findings of the recent 2010 Okada rat study. In that study whereby rat's nerves were transected, they found that the methyl analog of the B12 family was significantly more biologically active than any other form of B12. They also documented that it is the shortest lived analog and therefore clinicians should consider giving it by injections instead of the usual routes of administration. In addition, they found the greatest benefits at high to very high doses. What occurred in the rat's nervous tissue under these conditions (organic cobalt plus the cobalamin molecule) was that it increased the length of axons, increased formation of neurites, increased resistance to apoptosis, was involved in kinase signaling pathways, and helped repair the transected

nerves. Therefore, what you do with "this study" is up to you but "published studies show" that mercury and vaccines are safe and not related to the autism epidemic. Many other "published studies" have proven many things we believe to not be true but are passed along as fact. Therefore, the final thing that any parent has to do, you just being one of them, is to decide for yourself what you choose to believe and after that follow your heart. I have no qualms with that. However, as for me, after observing thousands of my own patients do so well on injectable MB12, and where the majority of them do even better with daily shots than every two or three day shots, I can confidently say I've read the study and do not agree with its implications or conclusions other than the statement that is "politically correct" to state in all publications -- "we need more studies!" I agree. However, we also need more kids being able to partake of a powerful

treatment as one major tool on their road to recovery. With that I cast my vote with MB12.

Sincerely, Jim Neubrander, M.D

[kim]

Sure is nice to have eyes all over the internet!

[GatsMom]

David A. Geier Mark R. Geier

Toxicological & Environmental Chemistry, Volume 92(5):1025-103? May 2010.

 

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~d...tent=a921813911

 

The effects of methylcobalamin (vitamin B12) injection (75 µg kg-1) on

cobalt levels in autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) and potential toxic

effects of cobalt on human neurons were evaluated.

 

 

http://mercury-freedrugs.org/docs/100430_P...obaltLevels.pdf

 

An autism cohort study of cobalt levels following vitamin B12

injections

 

We've had success using Revitapops (revitapop.com) an MB12 supplement developed by Stan Kurtz. They give ds16 a calm, clean focus. We've tried MB12 nose spray a few times but it didn't produce a result, even at higher doses. I've learned in the last few weeks that folks with type A blood have a difficult time maintaining B12 levels particularly when under stress/illness. Also, clostridia infections in the gut which can come from extended abx use can really screw up the methylation cycle. I wouldn't do long term abx without some form of Methyl B12 supplementation. We've seen no negative backlash from this supplement.

[Chemar]

my son doesn have B12 shots but he does take 1000mg of methyl B12 sublingual tabs daily, first thing each morning

 

if he misses it, brain fog and a very weird irritability set in quickly

 

not sure about the study and the cobalt stuff re the injected form, but I sure know for my son methyl B12 is absolutely essential!