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Hi all,

 

Well I said I would post if I had news. I asked my son's DAN doctor to run a set of tests on me, and after asking me some questions, he agreed it was justified. My big thing is I suspected yeast, plus I have allergies.

 

METAL TEST: Elevated

Antimony

Tin

Mercury (my son had this)

Cadmium

Maganese

 

I was high on all but lead!

 

The first two can be associated with sodering, and we had plumbing done and I can occassional taste the soder. No more tap water for me either I guess!!

 

STOOL TEST

High

Pancreatic elastase 1

Showed no yeast (nor did my son's)

Low bifidobacterium whatever probiotic--the same one as my son

 

 

URINE TEST a ton here--no clue as to what most of them are!! Will need to search

HIGH

Arabinose—yeast fungal (I knew I had this! My son's yeast showed on the urine test and not the other also. It specifically says it originates in the intestinal track)

Aconitic

3-indoleacetic

vma

suberic

hydroxy hippuric

Kynurenic

hippuric

 

LOW

pyroglutaminic (my son had this too)

 

Spectracell antioxidants

Not back yet.

 

His doctor had said that my son got his metabolism 'from somewhere'.

What is amazing is that other than my son's result showing low ascorbic acid and EPX (presumably from the food allergies), I have EVERY SINGLE THING he has. PLUS a ton more.

 

Holy Moly. I wonder what difference I will notice if/when I go on supplements???

Funny, other than my allergies, which are fine with shots and plenty of sleep, I do just fine. Well, other than waking up during the night a couple of times. And I need reduced carb cuz sugar makes me tired--that has got to be from the yeast!

 

I just started taking his bifidus and capryllic acid!! No reason to wait there anyway.

 

Claire

Posted

Claire,

 

I take many of the same supplements as my son does and it makes a huge difference for me. I also started my brother on vitamins and he feels 100% better also. I had crazy PMS and this has disappeared with supplements. A book called "Seven weeks to Emotional Healing" by Joan Mathews Larson was very good.

 

Ronna

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Very interesting Ronnas, thanks!

 

Well I just compared candidas albacans results for my son and I. Normal is less than 46, he got 70 and I got 560!!

 

Also, I mapped our urine tests, and even the ones barely in range for each of us mapped directly, we were high in the same things and low in the same things--though I was worse.

 

Too bizarre.

 

Claire

 

ps I did order the pyrrole home test.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hi,

 

I just got the Spectracell test back, and surprise, surprise I have low antioxidants. :)

 

My son's were at 35%, and mine are at 23%!!

 

I am also low in:

Vitamin B1 thiamin

Carnatine

Vit E

Cysteine

Folate (son also)

Vit D (son also)

Zinc

Pantothenate (son also)

 

He did have calcium issues and I didn't.

 

So, what are the odds that the food allergy test I take comes back next week?? I am really really curious about wheat. But then again I haven't had it in a long time, which clearly reduces sensitivities.

 

I will be very interesting to see what improvements I note from lowering yeast and metals, and raising my antioxidant levels and vitamin deficiencies, and perhaps offending foods.

 

Claire

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I keep posting here, because I think the process is relevant--we can compare, whether it is for our kids or an adult.

 

During my visit today, my doctor said that my metals were so high (the ones from the sodder in our water, not the mercury), that it might take 2 years to bring them down. This made me quite upset with our plumber, as when I complained of the horrible taste after he soddered our pipes several months back, he said, 'don't worry, it is not toxic.' Why was I listening to a plumber on such a topic? Because this was before I understood all of this. I need to call him so that he doesn't continue to tell people this. Well, maybe 98% of the people just detox it from their system.

 

My 23% antioxidant level was actually in kind of a 'red' zone (I thought my son's was bad, but the chart but mine in a special category). So my doctor says we can't treat my yeast until we bring up my antioxidant level. He gave an explanation. He said that killing the yeast created toxins, and unless your antioxidant levels are high enough to deal with the toxin, they will just sit in your system. Maybe this is why some have such problems with yeast detox.

 

I said I had already started taking Capryllic acid and occasionally garlic, and he said those were okay, because they were mild and just treated the gastrointestinal track. Phil, if you are reading this, he said that the Great Plains yeast metabolite comment mentions the gastrointenstinal tract, but they can also come from the tissues.

 

He said my yeast was so high that I would need nystatin when I was ready.

 

By the way, it looks like the Spectracell blood test for antioxidant levels and vitamin deficiencies didn't require a doctor's signature. It is $265 though!

 

So I now join my son, but I have more pills. I think I take all that he does except ALA.

 

THREELAC

I must give my doctor credit. He didn't know about threelac, and when I showed him the Japanese study, he was impressed and said he wanted to research it more and took all my sheets I had printed out. I told him this was potentially much better for children due to the less restrictive diet--he is so kind to the children. We ran out of time and I couldn't ask him all my questions, e.g. on homeopathic methods. He said I just need to wait and be patient re the yeast.

 

Saliva Test for yeast

He said it wasn't perfect for dxing yeast, but that it probably showed more positives than the stool test.

 

Nutrasweet

I had a high reading for something supposedly reflecting Nutrasweet consumption. Odd, because I used to eat a ton of it, but stopped completely 6 months ago, with my son. My doctor said I must be still getting it somewhere, but I read every single label!!!

 

Update on my son

He now regularly closes the door and sleeps with the room completely black. This is just amazing to me, and I definitely associate it with neurological improvement. Plus he has had computer daily all week on the LCD monitor with no issues. Yippee!

 

Claire

Posted

Hi Claire....

interesting update! Sounds like you really have a good doc.

 

Nutrasweet aka aspartame is put in such a lot of stuff ....and I notice that now the sucralose(Splenda) is appearing all over...even in mouthwash!!!

 

I am personally so yucked by tap water stories that I dont even cook with regular water anymore....only filtered or reverse osmosis.

 

The antioxidant boost prior to yeast elim is something mentioned many times here by me and others..... but just to stress again for everyone....

when going thru ANY type of detox it is essential to first boost your immune system to cope with it....especially yeast detox with the die off reaction producing such high levels of toxicity.

 

Sure hope you start seeing dramatic improvements real soon and that your son continues on his road to wellness.

 

:D

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Thanks Chemar and Heather.

 

I guess I always figured my body could handle that nutrasweet better than sugar, since I felt better without sugar.

 

Somehow I missed that on the board about antioxidants Chemar. I know that everyone said to boost the immune system and to do things slowly to deal with detox, but missed anyone suggesting antioxidants such as selenium, etc... as part of the process for yeast elimination. Other than I think it was Jean and I comparing notes from our doctors on the antioxidant supplements given our children's deficiencies.

 

This really points out to me why I am glad I have a doctor!! There is just too much information to put together a balanced plan, and I would have missed a key aspect of this yeast control for myself, given other complicating factors. Even once I understood that antioxidant helped with heavy metal detox, I had no clue it could be a factor with yeast detox. I only picked up on what killed the yeast, building the immune system, adding probiotics, and avoiding certain foods. Plus Jennifer's comment on charcoal. And I have been reading a lot of books on yeast (4 of them) though I haven't completed any of them.

 

I still would think that this would only be an issue for those with low anti-oxidants though. Not everyone has that problem, though I would suspect that it correlates fairly well with those with high heavy metals. I don't know, I still come back to wanting a doctor to walk me through this, and believe me, I am a very independent thinker! :)

 

Claire

Posted

Claire,

 

Great to read about your findings and how you are taking time to heal yourself as well as your son.

 

That is great news about your son's computer time. I am finding my son more tolerable of the TV these days as well.

 

Thanks for keeping us posted.

 

Heather

Posted

Tap water is something we totally avoid these days too. When my son gets angry with me, his big threat is that he is going to drink water from the fountain at school. He knows it makes me cringe. :D

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Chemar,

The antioxidant boost prior to yeast elim is something mentioned many times here by me and others

 

Chemar, can you please explain to me the protocol you used to boost the antioxidants prior to yeast elimination in your son's case...

 

Claire

 

great to have your update. Really glad that your son is tolerating the computers better now.

 

goodluck!

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I hadn't orginally done food allergy testing, but when the other tests came back, we decided that it made sense. This was the ELISA/ACT LRA results, and included food coloring, preservatives.... Remarkably, I was only allergic to a few preservatives, and not to aspartame, sucralose or food colorings (doesn't mean they are good for you though)

 

Strong reaction

Corn sugar

Helminthosporium halodes

Tin/Stannous Chloride (mineral--don't know what it is in...)

 

(I don't know what the last 2 are).

 

Moderate Reaction

Barly

Peach

Nectarine

Eggplant

Psyllium seed (I hope this isn't the end for my psyllium husk fiber supplements)

BHA, Pinene (preservatives)

Dog dander (I knew this)

Seleinium sufide and tin something (chemical, don't know what it is in...)

and....

CASEIN!! and

Yogurt (cow's milk)

They said I can't have butter, cheese (including paramesan, brick, cottage cheese), pasteurized OR RAW milk, Yogurt, whey.

 

So, no more occasional Starbucks decaf latte's (I know the decaf coffee is bad for me, and I only have it every couple of weeks) nor my special low carb icecream--both of which I strongly suspected I might have a reaction to. No way am I drinking that soy milk!

 

No wheat allergy showed, but then I haven't had it in months in conjunction with my son's elimination of it.

 

I don't mind except if the pysllium seed affects my regular intake of psyllium husk fiber--I need that low-carb soluble fiber to keep my cholesterol down. And I am not having oatmeal with no milk instead of it! Veggies are never enough fiber, and I agree with Mercola on not having grains--at least for me.

 

Ok, so now I can report whether I notice a change in 2 weeks of elimination, and what it is. This will be interesting at least.

 

By the way, I though casein issues were permanent, but it just said to avoid them for 3 months.

 

Claire

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