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Hi all,

 

My son had an acupunture treatment about 9 days ago. We are on Spring Break and have been skipping supplements for a few days. Today I thought about hos he has not had supplements in 2-3 days and has had NO TICS in the last few days. The tics have been very limited lately, but I always link them to supplements. Today a friend even noticed that he has no tics. Well, I have not given supplements much this week and the only change was the acupuncture....where the DR focused on attention issues.

 

Has anyone else seen a decrease in tics due to acupunture? When we first went to this DR the tics greatly increased b/c of she told me to stop his supplements and try hers. but cupping was done at this appointment which draws out the toxins........we returned her supplements and started back on ours...tics gone again. Now there are limited supplements and no tics nine days after acupuncture.............maybe the lack of school stress also????

 

Thanks for any input you can give me.

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We also find that acunpuncture helps with tic reduction. We did acunpuncture then follow with cupping in one office visit. My son has a fear for needles, so i wonder if cupping alone is enough.

 

Did your son did cupping or both?

 

Patty

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Hi all,

 

My son had an acupunture treatment about 9 days ago. We are on Spring Break and have been skipping supplements for a few days. Today I thought about hos he has not had supplements in 2-3 days and has had NO TICS in the last few days. The tics have been very limited lately, but I always link them to supplements. Today a friend even noticed that he has no tics. Well, I have not given supplements much this week and the only change was the acupuncture....where the DR focused on attention issues.

 

Has anyone else seen a decrease in tics due to acupunture? When we first went to this DR the tics greatly increased b/c of she told me to stop his supplements and try hers. but cupping was done at this appointment which draws out the toxins........we returned her supplements and started back on ours...tics gone again. Now there are limited supplements and no tics nine days after acupuncture.............maybe the lack of school stress also????

 

Thanks for any input you can give me.

 

 

Tracey,

 

Thanks for sharing your experience of how eliminating gluten and casein increased the amount of salicylates and thus increased tics. It makes me feel I am not crazy for seeing this connection and gives me hope that maybe we can use a low salicylate diet and add back in some other restricted foods. Would you mind sharing what supplements you have/had your son on that you think may not have been helpul? When my sons' tics worsened I took him off almost all his supplements. I had started the Feingold diet at the same time but he did improve without the supplements? I have tried many, including B6, P-5-P, and various forms of magnesium. My son does not seem to benefit from any but I feel they might be beneficial if I can figure out some other missing piece? Also my son is never calmed by an Epsom salt bath which I thought should be helpful, especially if you are salicylate sensitive. Any input feedbak is always greatly appreciated as I try to piece together this incredible mystery! Thanks again for sharing!

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We do accupuncture Ill tell you as soon as she begins he falls asleep I do it to I cant sleep i think its great for stress relief I try to take him 1 to 2 x a wek insurance covers it thank god

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Thanks for the replies.

 

Insurance???? Great Idea! I hope they will cover it....assumed they would not.

 

I don't know what points he did, as I was afraid that my son would chicken out if I was in the room. I was told the head, the back, and my son said one near his ankles.

 

We had done 3 or 4 cupping sessions in the prior month and they did not help with tics or focus....but we were trying the GF/Dairy Free diet plus changed supplements. I almost think that the cupping sessions resulted in an increase of tics in the few days following it....almost like a drawing out??? The week we did the true pure diet his "spots" were a lot less dark. The Dr said it was more of a detox thing and that the acupuncture should help more with the focus.

 

I am assuming that we should go once a month at least. He had no supplements again today and is still without tics today....no stress from school this week, so we will probably give him some this weekend!!!

 

BETTY 04 - Salycilates were huge triggers for my son when we go all natural....as far as supplements, I have posted three or four times as to what my recipe is for him. Click on my name and you should see a couple of posts about this. The main ones were GABA, NAC, and Aceytl - L - Carnitine. Let me know if you can not find my posts.

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Thanks for the replies.

 

Insurance???? Great Idea! I hope they will cover it....assumed they would not.

 

I don't know what points he did, as I was afraid that my son would chicken out if I was in the room. I was told the head, the back, and my son said one near his ankles.

 

We had done 3 or 4 cupping sessions in the prior month and they did not help with tics or focus....but we were trying the GF/Dairy Free diet plus changed supplements. I almost think that the cupping sessions resulted in an increase of tics in the few days following it....almost like a drawing out??? The week we did the true pure diet his "spots" were a lot less dark. The Dr said it was more of a detox thing and that the acupuncture should help more with the focus.

 

I am assuming that we should go once a month at least. He had no supplements again today and is still without tics today....no stress from school this week, so we will probably give him some this weekend!!!

 

BETTY 04 - Salycilates were huge triggers for my son when we go all natural....as far as supplements, I have posted three or four times as to what my recipe is for him. Click on my name and you should see a couple of posts about this. The main ones were GABA, NAC, and Aceytl - L - Carnitine. Let me know if you can not find my posts.

 

Thanks Tracey, I will read over your posts. Just curious, did you ever try magnesium and B6 or epsom salts baths? I imagine you did since they are the standard supplements. I am asking because my son has never seemed to benefit from these supplements and now that he is off them and doing better I question whether they were making him worse? Just trying to see if there is a connection/relationship between salicylate sensitivity and magnesium/B vitamins? I know from Caryn's post that too high B6 can have a negative impact on salicylate sensitivity but was wondering about magnesium and other B's? Thanks again for your feedback!

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I am starting to think that my son's tics are one big puzzle!!! When I changed his supplements to the Dr's supplements a month or so ago, he started ticcing like crazy. I flipped out and went back to his normal supplements. Things improved.

 

Well, it has now been over a week since he has had supplements and he is tic free still??? (I thought maybe I saw one or two today when doing some eye excercises, but that is it in over a week.) This is crazy....I have claimed the supplements to be the control of his tics....???

 

It must be the acupuncture....we have not done any "gut cleanup"...don't think I would know how to do this. We did do some gluten and dairy free for two weeks a month or so ago, but stopped it b/c we did not see a change in his focus. He even had a hot dog one night last week and that usually triggers the tics....so strange!

 

BETTY - I stopped the B's early on b/c of the taste. The Magnesium is one of the first supplements I gave him and have continued it throughout. Last summer I tried Epsom Salt baths. I don't really know if it helped, but both my boys liked them.

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Tracey111,

 

How long has your son been doing acupuncture for? Does the acupuncture take along time and where do the needles go on your son? I have done it before on myself but not on my son for tics. I'm happy to hear your getting such great results from acupuncture:) Char...

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I am starting to think that my son's tics are one big puzzle!!! When I changed his supplements to the Dr's supplements a month or so ago, he started ticcing like crazy. I flipped out and went back to his normal supplements. Things improved.

 

Well, it has now been over a week since he has had supplements and he is tic free still??? (I thought maybe I saw one or two today when doing some eye excercises, but that is it in over a week.) This is crazy....I have claimed the supplements to be the control of his tics....???

 

It must be the acupuncture....we have not done any "gut cleanup"...don't think I would know how to do this. We did do some gluten and dairy free for two weeks a month or so ago, but stopped it b/c we did not see a change in his focus. He even had a hot dog one night last week and that usually triggers the tics....so strange!

 

BETTY - I stopped the B's early on b/c of the taste. The Magnesium is one of the first supplements I gave him and have continued it throughout. Last summer I tried Epsom Salt baths. I don't really know if it helped, but both my boys liked them.

I wonder about doing acupressure versus acupuncture and I wonder if that would also provide relief? My son has been ticcing like crazy (for him, anyway) and it's all facial stuff especially when he eats. I know that last year at this time of year I saw an increase, too, so I wonder if it's supplements or allergies or something else or a combination? I do know that I put him back on glycine and I saw an increase and then I took him off the glycine about a week ago and I'm still seeing things increasing. He's got about 3 tics going on right now as he eats! I just wish I had the answers!

 

Bonnie

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He did three or four weeks of cupping and then he did one acupuncture treatment. That was 2 1/2 weeks ago. He has another one scheduled for Tuesday. I still have not seen any tics....I am wondering if the detox of the cupping had something to do with all of this too?????

 

I took him to a psychiatrist today because I have tried the Pediatrition, nuerologist, eye specialist, Oriental Medicine Dr, and have not had answers on his comorbid conditions....tics/focus issues/not reading......the psychiatrist mentioned the waxing and waning, but also talked about auto - immune (?) conditions. I asked if this was the PANDAS that I read about. He said it is a possibility.

 

I have had a couple of people on this site tell me that I should have him tested for PANDAS.....I don't know where to start b/c I am in over my head with searching for the cause/cure to his problems........I am happy he is tic free today and will focus on his reading for now!

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