Digestive Enzymes

[kallik]

Has anyone's child here had a reduction in tics because of taking digestive enzymes. Or an increase in tics? I'd like to give my son some but am not sure of the reaction/s he might have. Is there a test he can take to find out if his digestive enzymes are working properly? One doc said his vitamins and minerals were not getting to where they need to go. He has small, too hard poops. It's just a hunch of mine, but I'd like to get him tested to see for sure.

[CarolynN]

Hello,

 

I just wanted to tell you I was at my Naturopathic Doctor today and she is doing a urine test on my son to see how well or not well his body is digesting. So there is a test available. I just don't know what the test is actually called?

 

Carolyn N.

[michele]

We have taken digestive enzymes by Houston. It is AFP Protease. I stopped it now because we are trying Nystatin currently. I think the nystatin probably is better because it is stronger. It may have been what led to the reduction of tics. Also try Monolaurin which we currently use for the lauric acid whih helps digestion and builds immune function. My son is doing fine with elimination. His are soft. He is not as hyper from the reduction in yeast. A DAN Dr. can set up a protocal for you involving digestive enzymes after reviewing your history and symptoms. My son never had an oral test.

Michele

Has anyone's child here had a reduction in tics because of taking digestive enzymes. Or an increase in tics? I'd like to give my son some but am not sure of the reaction/s he might have. Is there a test he can take to find out if his digestive enzymes are working properly? One doc said his vitamins and minerals were not getting to where they need to go. He has small, too hard poops. It's just a hunch of mine, but I'd like to get him tested to see for sure.

[Caryn]

Michele,

 

Have you ever done a gluten sensitivity test or celiac screen? Your son has some indicators in his symptoms that are very familiar with my Tigger's. (Wheat sensitivity, yeast sensitivity, abnormal stools, sensitivity to light (possible pyroluria), throat clearing after eating.....)

Enterolabs does a stool test that is very highly recommended by those with gluten intolerance that are on a GF diet successfully. It is common to test negative on an IgG test for celiac. The best thing to do if your son gets a negative reading is to just try the diet.

We did just about all the things you are currently doing. (We never did do antibiotics, I'm not sure if you have/are or not). Our ds had bruxism that just wouldn't go away, even with digestive enzymes. Let me ask you, does ds burp a lot? That is a sign too. Does he have white spots on his finger nails? How is his growth? Is he short for his age? Does he have a pot belly? Does he complain of soreness when you press on his abdomen? Is he hyper after eating certain things? Does he have a history of gastroenteritis or diarrhea? There are several reasons why gluten sensitive enteropathy would cause a lack of vitamin/mineral absorption. It can be present without gastrointestinal issues, but in your case it sounds like your son does have some. I used to give ds 10 of bonnie's vits a day plus enzymes, plus chiro visits, acupuncture at one time too. When we finally went 100% gluten free we saw a dramatic difference in him (it was a slow process that really improved on the third month). After nine months he is stable and I no longer have to do the vits (I will as a precaution on days when he doesn't eat great). His immune system is finally healing and he is digesting terrifically all on his own. (S shaped poops every day). He has not been sick in ages either-- colds, flus, sinus, throat.

I just want to throw this out there because I see some similarities. Not everyone whose child suffers from tics is gluten intolerant, but for those of us who are it makes all the difference when you go gluten free.

 

Caryn

[kallik]

Michele:

You said, "We have taken digestive enzymes by Houston. It is AFP Protease. I stopped it now because we are trying Nystatin currently. I think the nystatin probably is better because it is stronger." Nystatin is different than enzymes, right? It's an antifungal? Does it do the same thing as enzymes? Also, my son has had blood drawn checking "antigliadin" and "candida" both of which were negative. I'm not sure what the Celiac Screen is or the Gluten Intolerence Test. I do know my son is sensitive to wheat, it was a 1, and also to Quinoa, a 2, which we have eliminated from his diet. He also has the throat clearing after eating, even after eating something he's supposed to be able to have, sensitivity to sound, and t.v. and computer causes a temporary eye blink. His zinc levels, magnesium, B vitamin levels all tested normal. And of course he has the constipation. He used to have teeth grinding at night, when he was about five, he's 10 now and doesn't. I guess I'm confused about where do I go from here? Get some better tests? He also has frequent urination for the last two years. Someone said that could be a sign of Candida. Any suggestions? Thanks to everyone. Oh, and he has trouble sitting still and focusing and he acts silly sometimes.

[michele]

I didn't know your son has frequent urination too. That is a sign of a PANDAS episode for us. I guess I am not sure if the digestive enzymes help with the fungals but it helps with digestion of the food. I think Monolaurin helps with this too. We are currently off the diet trying to observe the differences. We have had a few emotional meltdowns. This may be from the wheat or sugar. No we have never the sensitivity test or celiac screen just the IGG and fod alergies. All were negative. DAN DR D suggested the GF diet because of his endorphins. I know he is more moody with the sugars and wheat. He has teeth grinding too. Plus alot of energy and gets very excited and talks excessively. Sometimes he acts like he is on speed very fast. There are too many enorphins in his brain. He thinks overtime making connections constantly plus gets so excited over things. We get the frequent eye blinks too. We started amino acids tonight and ADDed Attention this morning.

Michele

Michele:

You said, "We have taken digestive enzymes by Houston. It is AFP Protease. I stopped it now because we are trying Nystatin currently. I think the nystatin probably is better because it is stronger." Nystatin is different than enzymes, right? It's an antifungal? Does it do the same thing as enzymes? Also, my son has had blood drawn checking "antigliadin" and "candida" both of which were negative. I'm not sure what the Celiac Screen is or the Gluten Intolerence Test. I do know my son is sensitive to wheat, it was a 1, and also to Quinoa, a 2, which we have eliminated from his diet. He also has the throat clearing after eating, even after eating something he's supposed to be able to have, sensitivity to sound, and t.v. and computer causes a temporary eye blink. His zinc levels, magnesium, B vitamin levels all tested normal. And of course he has the constipation. He used to have teeth grinding at night, when he was about five, he's 10 now and doesn't. I guess I'm confused about where do I go from here? Get some better tests? He also has frequent urination for the last two years. Someone said that could be a sign of Candida. Any suggestions? Thanks to everyone. Oh, and he has trouble sitting still and focusing and he acts silly sometimes.

[Caryn]

Michele,

I was actually looking at Houston's website today and I am wondering if I should try them for Tigger. I'm wondering if you could give me an idea about how well you think they work for digesting casein and wheat, and also for salicylates if you've tried it. (No-Fenol).

I am afraid to take him off the gluten and corn free diet, but he does get minimal casein and eats fruits with salicylates (hard to avoid everything).

Caryn

[michele]

Actually we did GF while on the enzymes. Also gave probiotics because he was on daily antibiotics. I tried to avoid the dairy but gave the chocolate and vanilla soy milk some. We tried the casein free cheese but he wouldn't eat it. I just avoided milk. I think enzymes helped with his digestion. However he still needed Nystatin because of yeast overgrowth showing up in his bloodwork. I still think Houston enzymes helpsd alot with his digestion. He complained less of stomach aches. I also noticed less canker sores in his mouth. Also poops seemed better formed less runny.

 

Michele

[lmcgill]

Michele,

 

Have you ever done a gluten sensitivity test or celiac screen? Your son has some indicators in his symptoms that are very familiar with my Tigger's. (Wheat sensitivity, yeast sensitivity, abnormal stools, sensitivity to light (possible pyroluria), throat clearing after eating.....)

Enterolabs does a stool test that is very highly recommended by those with gluten intolerance that are on a GF diet successfully. It is common to test negative on an IgG test for celiac. The best thing to do if your son gets a negative reading is to just try the diet.

We did just about all the things you are currently doing. (We never did do antibiotics, I'm not sure if you have/are or not). Our ds had bruxism that just wouldn't go away, even with digestive enzymes. Let me ask you, does ds burp a lot? That is a sign too. Does he have white spots on his finger nails? How is his growth? Is he short for his age? Does he have a pot belly? Does he complain of soreness when you press on his abdomen? Is he hyper after eating certain things? Does he have a history of gastroenteritis or diarrhea? There are several reasons why gluten sensitive enteropathy would cause a lack of vitamin/mineral absorption. It can be present without gastrointestinal issues, but in your case it sounds like your son does have some. I used to give ds 10 of bonnie's vits a day plus enzymes, plus chiro visits, acupuncture at one time too. When we finally went 100% gluten free we saw a dramatic difference in him (it was a slow process that really improved on the third month). After nine months he is stable and I no longer have to do the vits (I will as a precaution on days when he doesn't eat great). His immune system is finally healing and he is digesting terrifically all on his own. (S shaped poops every day). He has not been sick in ages either-- colds, flus, sinus, throat.

I just want to throw this out there because I see some similarities. Not everyone whose child suffers from tics is gluten intolerant, but for those of us who are it makes all the difference when you go gluten free.

 

Caryn

We are mostly doing the GF diet with our son. I have my suspicions, my mom is very celiac. She can't even tolerate the slightest amount of gluten. We have noticed when we give him GF bread etc he does a lot better. My next step is getting him tested for gluten intolerence. His IGg showed wheat as high, so I think we need to explore further. His NAET Dr has yet to do grains. He does burb a lot, as well as diarrhea somtimes.