Yeast experts

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Hi Guys,

 

First off my son's test said, no abnormality found for the yeast/fungal, but it was creeping up the chart. His Dr. said to avoid flour, was yeast what she ment to say? She also brought up the fact my son seems not to have good or bad bacteria. She asked if he was on antibiotics. I told her he has not... if ever... been on antibiotics.

Is this something I should be concerned about? What is your take on the no (good or bad) bacteria not present in his body. (sounds funny he must have some, that is just how she put it.)

 

Thanks for any help.

C.P.

 

P.S. When this is all said and done, I should have a degree from ACN University.

[kim]

C.P.

 

Did your Dr. say which beneficial bacteria's were low? Was a probiotic recommended?

[Chemar]

CP

 

I am also surprised about that comment on the bacteria as basically, that would be indicative of some form of antibitoic killing everything off?

Was this just a broad generic statement the doc made or were there actual tests done to determine the bacterial levels?

[kim]

I was thinking the same thing. Funny if good levels are low, bad aren't high.

 

I couldn't think of anything besides birth control pills/steroids, thimerosal (did you say one of the shots your son had was Menactra for meningitis CP, can you find out if your Dr. used the multidose vial?) or antibiotics.

 

Chemar, would something to do with PH levels cause things to be low across the bd?

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Hi Kim and Chemar,

 

The test was Comprehensive profile, for L acidpphilus/ general bacterial. (d-Lactate)

 

And Clostridial species (Dihydroxyphenylpropinate) Good thing I don't have to pronounce that.

 

Both low, and yes she did want probotics. Having a hard time finding one without soy.

 

I'll find out about the shots, is that the reason she wanted to test the vac. titers?

 

Thank again for helping me figure this stuff out.

 

C.P.

 

P.S. Was the flour what she wants him to stay away from? If so could you all explain why? Is he at risk of getting candidia? (not sure I spelled that right)

[Guest]

C.P.

 

Klaire Labs provide soy free probiotics. You can get Klaire Lab products from several different sources:

http://www.needs.com

http://ssl.familypharmacy.net/shopping.htm

Directly from Klaire Labs http://www.klaire.com/ 1-888-488-2488 (Dr. McCandless gave permission on one of the chat's that I was on to give them her name as your doctor to get a discount)

 

 

My guess Re: the flour would be that products with flour are high in carbohydrates. It's then converted to sugar and that may be why your son's doctor said to avoid flour. Sugar increases candida. There are gluten free flours that are supposed to better for candida like buckwheat, millet, quinoa, and Amaranth. With low levels of good bacteria, your son could be at risk of getting candida. Try to prevent it because Candida's extremely hard to get rid of. I haven't successfully gotten rid of it yet and we've been working on it for over 2 years now.

 

Carolyn

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Carolyn,

 

Thanks so much for the info. Out of the choices is there one you think would be better for him. The only other allergy he has not on the list is rice.

 

Thanks for your help.

C.P.

[faith]

Hi C.P.

Looks like we are playing on the computer at the same time. Noticed your post so just wanted to give you my rec on what we use.

 

I use Pro-Biotic Complex by Klaire Labs. It comes in capsules or powder form and is refridgerated. That is where they keep it in the store. It says:

Free of all common allergies including dairy, wheat, corn, SOY, yeast, gluten casein. No sugar, starch, mag stearate, artificials colors, flavors, salicylates, or preservatives. (5+ billion cfu's). (about $20.00 for 100 capsules.)

 

Hope things are going well so far. Could I ask you when, why and through what type of doc you had those tests done. Was it on your own? Just curious, I don't remember you saying a doctor had order some tests for your son. So they will be recommending supps based on this testing?

 

Thanks,

Faith

[Guest]

C.P.

 

What's the other one that your son's low in besides L acidpphilus? Depending on the other one that he's low on, I would think either the Pro-Biotic Complex that Kim's son's on or the Ther-Biotic Complete that I'm on would be a good choice. It just depends on if your son needs a comprehensive probiotic. The Ther-Biotic Complete is more comprehensive and contains higher amounts of the probiotics.

 

Carolyn

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Hi Faith and carolyn,

 

The tests were from his interarative Dr. She did blood, urine, and hair. She has moved very slow too. I guess that is a good thing he is so sensitive. Helps the pocket book too... we have to pay for it all ourself. I'm very confused about the tests, and what she says. The tests say he has, "no abnormality found" for the L acdophilus, clostridial, and yeast, yet she questions the tests. I'm not sure if she has other ideas based on TS or Autism, or what. She did go over the B6 and B12 and they were good for TS.

 

So am I fighting a fire, or preventing one?

 

Carolyn is there a store I can get these from or do I have to order them via e-mail?

 

He has had a ruff weekend, baseball has been cancelled 3 weekends in a row. We don't know if it is that or the meds being weened, or spring?

 

Thanks guys,

C.P.

[Guest]

C.P.,

 

If nothing's low and no yeast was found, I don't see why your son would need any probiotics. On the other hand I don't think it would hurt to take probiotics. It should help prevent yeast from forming. What lab did the test for yeast? I think yeast is usually checked by a stool test. Could this be why your doctor questions the test? Maybe false normals?

 

For some with tics, B12 can increase tics.

 

As for the increased tics/rough weekend, I would link it probably mostly to the cancellation of baseball and spring.

 

I don't think there is a store that you can get Klaire products from because they are physician grade.

 

 

Faith-your post about probiotics being in the refrigerator section at the store makes it sound like you get yours from a store. Are they available at a local store?

 

Carolyn

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AAHH... I see Carolyn, It was a urine test. (Metametrix)

 

Spring... it used to be my favorite time of year. I'm not too fond of full moons anymore.

 

So I could get my Dr. to get the probotics from Klaire, or I can do it myself?

 

Thanks soooo much carolyn, your a sweetie.

 

C.P.

[faith]

I bought the Klair Lab product at a local health food store. I don't think they would carry that at a chain store like Vitamin Shoppe or Whole Foods. This was just an old fashioned health food store that sells supplements, foodstuffs and personal pruducts.

 

Faith

[Chemar]

CP

 

Probiotics are always a good idea IMHO

 

We use kefir, as well as Stoneyfield yoghurt, as our main probiotic and my son has also taken a liking to Activia as well as Dan-Active too

 

 

Carolyn, our healthfood stores all carry a variety of probiotics, some in on the shelf capsule form, but most in the refrigerated section

 

For those interested, there is also The Garden of Life series of probiotics which are supposed to be excellent tho I havent tried them as yet

http://www.gardenoflife.com/probiotics.shtml

[Guest]

C.P.

 

Yes, you can get Klaire probiotics directly from Klaire yourself. You have to order over the telephone, not the internet though.

 

They ask for your doctor's name, and I just gave them Dr. McCandless as that's what she said to do to get the discount.

Shipping is free with Klaire if your purchase is over $75. They charge a $7.50 fee for the handling of probiotics. So it's best to

order multiple bottles at once.

 

 

 

Faith-you are so lucky to have Klaire probiotics right in your health food store. We have 3 small local health food stores in my city and none of them carry Klaire probiotics. Either does Whole Foods. They carry many other probiotic brands though.

 

 

Carolyn