MSG

[Cum Passus]

Hi All,

 

I just found out that some products that say no MSG really have MSG hidden under other names. I googled and found some names like modified food starch, natural flavoring or yeast extract. Does anyone know a better web sight so I can find all the hidden MSG names?

 

Thanks soooo much,

C.P.

[faith]

Here's something I had copied a while ago. Sorry, I don't know how to copy the links yet, so you'll have to just type this in and it should come up. Hope all is well.

 

MSG - Slowly Poisoning America

 

 

Regards

Faith

[GErl]

I know that in Europe the code for MSG is the code "E 621", sometimes you see only that code on the description on products. Here (in Iceland) MSG used to be marketed as "Þriðja kryddið" (meaning "the third spice"). I don't know if that name's an icelandic peculiarity or not.

 

There is some information here: http://www.laleva.cc/food/enumbers/E541-640.html

[Cum Passus]

Thanks guys,

 

That was very helpful. Next question, should our children avoid the natural MSG? I mean like tomatoes or legumes?

 

Faith our son is still doing pretty good, although last week he has a new teacher for a second sem. class, and the stress of getting to know her and all her rules has made him tic alot in the morning. Not so much when he gets home.

 

C.P.

[Chemar]

Hi CP

 

here is a good site I have bookmarked on hidden MSG

http://www.naturodoc.com/library/nutrition/MSG.htm

 

re natural free gluatamates in tomatoes and legumes....many foods contain glutamic acid or its variants and that in itself is IMHO not bad, unless one has a definite sensitivity to that food or to glutamic acid / glutamine/ free or bound glutamates

 

example is that my son takes L-glutamine for his Crohn's Disease and it does not appear to in any way negatively impact his TS or OCD. He can also eat natural glutamic acid containing foods without reactivity

However, if he eats anything with MSG ADDED his tics and OCD skyrocket, as well as digestive distress

 

 

I think it is that the MSG that is reactive to many is the concentrated substance made as a food additive used to flavor and tenderize foods and usually derived artificially albeit from natural substances ..........

[faith]

I too am frustrated about the hidden ingredients. We have to watch yeast and corn as these were his strong sensitivities on the test. I think I'm going to start investing in corn stocks, it's in everything!

 

I'm looking at words like dextrose and leavening. The labels don't say yeast or corn, but are these things that have corn or yeast in them? It's hard to tell. I know I've searched for what those words mean, and it says dextrose comes from corn sugar, so I guess that's a problem too. Just wondering if anyone feels its okay (not too much of an infraction) if the offending ingedient is way down on the list. Sometimes I've heard that the first five ingredients are the most, but I don't know, don't want to start any confusion.

 

Also, does anyone here make irish soda bread? From what I'm reading, it seems to be made without yeast, however I think the baking powder/soda could contain corn starch. (SCREAM!) I think I've had that before somewhere and I think its okay tasting. Just curious. My poor little guy had to have a hamburger last night with a flour tortilla that I fashioned as a bun. He was all teary about it. I feel so bad. He doesn't understand all this, but I am trying to explain how we just have to do this for a while. Its been a week that I have taken the negative foods away, and I believe his head shaking is way down, although I do see a few here and there, but definitlely better, praise God.

 

C.P. glad to hear your son is doing well, is his tic still a vocal? Even though mine is better in the motor tics, the vocal is still there. Any thoughts from anyone? I know I have to have patience and not think everything is gonna all go away overnight, but am curious to know if it could take a few weeks to see an improvement when taking away food sensitivities.

 

Kim, thanks for all that info, still soaking it all in. When your boys had a head shake, how long did it take to resolve? Are you still eliminating some foods for them?

 

Thanks all

Faith

[Cum Passus]

O.K. I have Organic Valley Raw Milk Cheese. It says enzymes as an ingredient, does that mean it is MSG? Or does that mean because it is raw milk cheese the natural enzymes are there? Sorry if that is a stupid question I just want to make sure.

 

Thanks Chamer my son loves tomatoes and would hate to give them up. Great web sight I copied all the Old Fashioned Remedies.

C.P.

[tarabeara]

O.K. I have Organic Valley Raw Milk Cheese. It says enzymes as an ingredient, does that mean it is MSG? Or does that mean because it is raw milk cheese the natural enzymes are there? Sorry if that is a stupid question I just want to make sure.

 

Thanks Chamer my son loves tomatoes and would hate to give them up. Great web sight I copied all the Old Fashioned Remedies.

C.P.

 

 

Enzymes can come from plants or animals--most often either cows or pigs. From animals, it's often called rennet. The enzymes come from the stomach juices of those animals. No MSG. If something is organic, then it is not supposed to have MSG.

 

From the book Medisin, pg 170, hidden sources of MSG:

 

Hydrolyzed vegetable protein

Autolyzed yeast extract

Soy protein isolate

Sodium caseinate

Calcium caseinate

Hydrolyzed protein

Malt extract

Malt flavoring

Bouillon

So-called natural flavors

Whey protein concentrate

Carrageenan

[Irena]

I was happy to find a toothpaste with no chemical additives. But it has a carageenan (as an agent preventing separation of igredients). Do you think I should throw it away?

[Cum Passus]

OK... My toothpaste has that too, I also would like to know.

 

C.P.