Calcium & Magnesium Ratio

[patty]

If my son is taking a "cal/mag" supplement in a 2:1 ratio, does he need to up the calcium if he is also taking a daily epsom salt bath, since the salt contains magnesium?

 

I just read somewhere on line that calcium blocks magnesium absorption, so it is best to take cal & mag separately. Is this true? There are alot of info that the cal & mag need to be supplemented together to best assimilate into the body.

 

Patty

[hudsonsmom]

I'm sorry I can't help. but, I am curious to know an answer. I take calcium in the morning, and mag at night. I've heard mag promotes sleep and I don't like taking all pills at once, so I switched it to night. but, I do take Epsom baths during the day.

[kim]

Just wanted to let everyone know, that I spent about 2 hours yesterday morning, reading about calcium and magnesium. I used google advanced search, and put in "calcium to magnesim ratios."

 

I know my boys serum levels of cal and mag. from blood work that we had done, prior to starting supplements. Calcium in serum, is not a good indicator of anything, because your body will just pull it from bone, if the serum level gets too low. Magnesium, was good to know, because you have an idea, what they are obtaining from diet, but it doesn't tell you, how well they are utilizing it. Since my boys levels, were both near the high end of range, I know that they were at least getting adequate amts. of mag. from their diet, so I have to assume, that the mag taurate, is providing them with a form, that their bodies are better able to use, or they may be "wasting."

 

Also, Dee/Dominique, recently ordered a book written by a popular DAN DR. She said that the book recommends no calcium to start with (not long term), only magnesium. After reading through some of these articles, I suspect that could be because of vitamin B status, along with a few other things (possible low zinc status)?

 

from Bonnie's site;

 

The distinguished OMIM (Online Mendelian Inheritance in Man) website tentatively designates 11q23 as the site for Tourette’s syndrome and is also the site for magnesium wasting.

 

I can see, why, there in no right answer here. There is a lot to consider. I'm just going to put a couple of excerpts out here.

 

http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

 

This one has no name and zero references, but I still found it interesting.

 

 

http://www.enerex.ca/articles/calcium_to_magnesium_ratio.htm

 

NUTRITIONAL STATUS OF MAGNESIUM

 

The recommended dietary allowance for magnesium is 300 to 450 mg/day. There are several factors including pregnancy, rapid growth, or a high intake of protein, vitamin D, calcium, fat, carbohydrates or alcohol, that will increase the requirement for magnesium.

 

 

The traditional ratio of approximately 2 parts calcium to 1 part magnesium needs to be upgraded to increase magnesium intake in view of the overwhelming beneficial role of magnesium. The ideal ratio for most people's needs is an equal ratio of calcium and magnesium.

Many articles can be found, stating the calcium magnesium 2:1 ratio.

 

 

http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/productshair/141

 

Here are many studies documenting the use of Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis.

 

Mineral Metabolism and Vitamin B6

.....Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) is an important co-factor to many minerals, especially magnesium. Many health conditions related to a B6 deficiency are also related to magnesium metabolism. A B6 deficiency leads to alterations in the metabolism, utilization and balance between the minerals calcium and magnesium. This increased requirement for B6 results in excessive calcium retention with a corresponding loss of magnesium from the body. (1)

 

.....Magnesium, in conjunction with B6, is considered Nature's calcium blocker. When either nutrient is lacking, the body will deposit calcium in the soft tissues. This can lead to numerous conditions related to an imbalance or an improper utilization of calcium, some of which are described below.

[quan_daniel]

Kim,

Thanks!!!

 

from natural calm..(if u believe the marketing material they say)

 

excerpt....

 

A matter of balance<br><br>Calcium

deficiency can be a serious issue and has been heavily promoted through

the media and advertising. But the hidden cause of calcium deficiency

is the fact that available calcium is not being assimilated by the body

due to a lack of magnesium. <br><br>Without a proper balance of these

two minerals, magnesium gets depleted, which will result in the

negative effects associated with lack of magnesium and a buildup of

unassimilated calcium. <br><br>In addition to the many calcium

(without magnesium) supplements on the market, calcium is now added to

cereals, crackers, juice, antacids and other items (including soft

drinks). None of these products contain magnesium to balance the added

calcium.<br><br>Calcium, Magnesium and Stress <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Calcium and magnesium are two different sides of a coin. <br><br>Calcium excites nerves while magnesium calms them down. <br><br>Calcium makes muscles contract. Magnesium is necessary for muscles to relax. <br><br>Calcium is needed for blood clotting but magnesium keeps the blood flowing freely. </span><br><br><span style="font-style: italic;">It is vital to keep these minerals in balance.</span>

Too little magnesium to balance calcium can be both uncomfortable and

unhealthy. To ward off the negative effects of a prolonged period of

stress or over-reaction to stress, calcium needs to be balanced with

adequate amounts of magnesium. <br><br>Going through a stressful

period without sufficient magnesium can set up a deficit that, if not

corrected, can linger, causing more stress (see symptoms of magnesium

depletion listed on the green page of this brochure) and further health

problems. <br><br>Today we have diets dangerously low in magnesium.

Add the recent inclusion of nutritional calcium via supplements and

food fortifications meant to stave off osteoporosis and many of us are

getting inadequate magnesium plus too much calcium. <br><br>Women

taking calcium supplements to prevent osteoporosis—without adequate

magnesium—can actually lower the vital bone mineralization process.

Magnesium is as important as calcium in the prevention of osteoporosis

and is crucial to increasing bone mass.</p>