MamaOnAMission Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 not sure why she is getting worse with steroids. seems like she is yeasty. can steroids cause yeast?
mar Posted June 11, 2012 Report Posted June 11, 2012 I would say yes from what I know. I thought any antibiotic or steroid causes yeast. Make sure you are giving probiotics. Anyone please correct me of I am wrong. Mar
Kiera Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 steroids can make your glucose levels go up so I guess that's how it can cause yeast.
Fixit Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) not sure why she is getting worse with steroids. seems like she is yeasty. can steroids cause yeast? yes, yes, yes...i think worse than abx use! i give nystatin when doing a taper or burst. before i had a DAn or any of the main pans drs...ds4(who was 1 1/2 then and ds12 was 9 then and start of my/family altering PANS cronic infection episode going on more than 3 1/2 years{{sorry for the digression}}) Steroids were given to then ds1 due to myco p infection that dr dx as brhochial something was given to ds1 and he has had undetected yeast for years. Thus resulting in brain fog, slight language delay(as in can get the words out or express self properly, but sooo subtle) and lack of physical growth. the yeast is eating the nutrients. so he is in a chronic state. when we give him nystatin his expression is that of an old sole and very expressive, he also grows like a weed. Take him off nystatin, he holds the expressiveness but stops growing. several months later, reintroduce nystatin,, more leaps in learning and huge growth. He is still behind in both,,,growth mostly. Tryning to keep yeast at bay by limiting carbs..giving probiotics to sssssllllllooooowwwwwlllllly push back yeast and giving biotin to stop the process of conversion to yeast. trying so hard to get off and stay off of the nystatin..as that might let c.diff take over too, if not back filled with heavy probiotics. Edited June 12, 2012 by Fixit
MamaOnAMission Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Posted June 12, 2012 how much probiotics are you giving and what brand? thanks so much. hoping good things happen for your child
Fixit Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) I dont' buy any with the strep.T in it...why chance it? but to be honest i do let them have organic gogert type things and the occassional greek yogurt when i mix it in a smoothy i also try to rotate the probiotcs and sometimet that includes culturelle. jarrow 299v and others. Ds4 is a real pain.."i don't like that..that is weird". Tried the loose probis..but that takes so much to get the dose high...still trying to get to 100bill for him. it is easier to buy the expensive Ultimate flora..they come in 50bill 80bill etc.. again, the higher dose probiotics don't seem to have the strep strain. These are in the refrigeratated section of stores ..I try to open a whole capsule into a drink, but the booger can taste it. It is easier when i make a smoothie or something with a lot of flavor. sometime i try to put it in oatmeal once it cools off before i put it on the table..i hope most of it survives. I have heard, i think it is just a theory, that even if the probiotic is dead/old it might still have some effect?!?!?!?! maybe it acts like a puzzle piece and locks onto other microbe that attach to it...don't quote me on that one. also try to give like a candy treat some 1 bill to 2 bill probiotc chewables. these don't need to be refridgerated...Kroger grocery has a 2 billion unit and natures plus has a 1 bill item i found Edited June 13, 2012 by Fixit
Fixit Posted June 13, 2012 Report Posted June 13, 2012 I dont' buy any with the strep.T in it...why chance it? but to be honest i do let them have organic gogert type things and the occassional greek yogurt when i mix it in a smoothy i also try to rotate the probiotcs and sometimet that includes culturelle. jarrow 299v and others. Ds4 is a real pain.."i don't like that..that is weird". Tried the loose probis..but that takes so much to get the dose high...still trying to get to 100bill for him. it is easier to buy the expensive Ultimate flora..they come in 50bill 80bill etc.. again, the higher dose probiotics don't seem to have the strep strain. These are in the refrigeratated section of stores ..I try to open a whole capsule into a drink, but the booger can taste it. It is easier when i make a smoothie or something with a lot of flavor. sometime i try to put it in oatmeal once it cools off before i put it on the table..i hope most of it survives. I have heard, i think it is just a theory, that even if the probiotic is dead/old it might still have some effect?!?!?!?! maybe it acts like a puzzle piece and locks onto other microbe that attach to it...don't quote me on that one. also try to give like a candy treat some 1 bill to 2 bill probiotc chewables. these don't need to be refridgerated...Kroger grocery has a 2 billion unit and natures plus has a 1 bill item i found PS..i don't let ds12 have the strep strain at all. when ds12 was not in episode i would let him eat that type, so until then..only as a special treat dose he get to have that in food.. the other 2 are not in Pans right now so that does not affect them...when in episode everything is off limits.
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