kim Posted June 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Fluoride war to begin again Published Friday, June 16, 2006 by By John Johnston http://www.bocaratonnews.com/index.php?src...Main%20Headline Eighteen months ago, County Administrator Robert Weisman told the Boca Raton News it was “unlikely” that an upcoming National Research Council (NRC) study would resolve the issue of whether or not to put fluoride into public drinking water. The NRC study is “just a study of all pre-existing studies,” he said. What a difference 18 months makes. Last week Weisman did an about face, saying that the since released NRC study suggests that the "perceived dental benefits" of fluoridation may not sufficiently exceed the possible negative effects of using it. Further, Weisman said, there was "sufficient evidence" in the NRC study about potential negative effects for him to write a memo to County Commissioners, urging that fluoridation cease in all unincorporated territory public water systems. Water fluoridation is the practice of adding fluoride compounds to water with the intended purpose of reducing tooth decay in the general population. Many American municipalities fluoridate public water supplies, believing that this practice will reduce tooth decay at a low cost. Currently about 65 percent of the United States residents in urban areas have fluoridated water. Opponents Gather Weisman, who began his career as an engineer in the county Engineering and Public Works Department, won’t get any argument from Patricia Moreell of Boca Raton about his recommendation to stop fluoridation. “Why is it that the very cities crying dental crisis are those which have been fluoridated the longest and still have the greatest tooth decay?” Moreell asks. She cited the cities of Boston, New York, Cincinnati and Washington DC. Moreell’s group, South Florida Citizens for Safe Drinking Water, has been fighting the addition of fluoride to drinking water, claiming it is toxic and actually does little, if anything, to help tooth enamel. County Commissioner Mary McCarty has also steadfastly opposed fluoridation. “I’m pro-choice when it comes to fluoridation,” she said, arguing that putting fluoride in public water supplies is violating individual choice because “water is something you can’t live without.” “Fluoride works when it’s applied topically,” said McCarty, “and we get what we need from our toothpaste. Why do we need it in our water?” Long-time opponent Palm Beach County fluoridation opponent Naomi Flack takes a different approach. The climate in South Florida – and to prevent dehydration – causes many persons to consume far more water than is consumed on average. As such, she said, adding fluoride to public water supplies “is medically unsound because, and regardless of the dose of fluoride in the water, you can’t control how much someone drinks.” “This is not about tooth decay,” she also argued. “It is naive to think that a substance powerful enough to alter tooth enamel will have no effect whatsoever on all other organs and tissues in the body.” Flack said, “Money saved by no fluoridation could be used to buy enough fluoridated toothpaste to deal with the entire population.” ADA Disagrees Hold on to your floss says the American Dental Association (ADA). Despite the NRC report, and with two days of it being issued, the ADA said that fluoridation “remains the model for dental disease prevention.” The ADA also said that using the NRC study as a basis for making decisions about public water supplies is inappropriate because “community water fluoridation was not part” of the study. According to the official ADA report following the NRC study used by Weisman to make his recommendations, “the American Dental Association supports community water fluoridation as a safe, beneficial and cost-effective way to prevent tooth decay. Past comprehensive reviews of the safety and effectiveness of fluoride in water have concluded that water fluoridation is safe and the most cost-effective way to prevent tooth decay among populations living in areas with adequate community water supply systems,” the ADA says, adding: “In fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) proclaimed community water fluoridation one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century.” Then what does the NRC report in fact say? According to the ADA, the NRC report was “part of a routine, periodic review by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Further, the ADA says, the study doesn’t even address public water supply questions. Rather, it examined “whether the amount of naturally occurring fluoride allowed in drinking water poses a health risk.” And the report concluded, according to the ADA, “that the EPA’s maximum level goal for naturally occurring fluoride in drinking water should be lowered.” The report cites “severe dental fluorosis, also known as enamel fluorosis, as one of the reasons for the new recommendation,” according to the ADA. Severe fluorosis, where teeth appear discolored and sometimes pitted is found in about 10 percent of children in communities with water fluoride concentrations at or near 4ppm, according to the NRC report. According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC) 32 percent of American children now have some form of dental fluorosis, with 2 to 4 percent of children having the moderate to severe stages (CDC 2005). However, the ADA says, the concentration of fluoride cited in the study “is nearly four times the optimum amount recommended by the U.S. Public Health Service, CDC and ADA to prevent tooth decay.” But the fear that adding fluoride to possibly existing natural occurring fluoride in Palm Beach County’s unincorporated areas, prompted Weisman to err on the side of caution, causing him to recommend ceasing public water fluoridation there. Vote Split The vote eighteen months ago to approve fluoridation was 5-2 – with Commissioner Tony Masilotti arguing that fluoridation removes citizen “choice, and Commissioner McCarty arguing that “medicating of water” is inappropriate.In February of 2004, Commissioners approved fluoridation of water for about 420,000 people living in the communities in the western part of the county, most of them west of Boca Raton, Delray Beach, Boynton Beach and Lake Worth. The 2004 vote was split 4-2, with Commissioners McCarty and Karen Marcus voting no. Commissioners Burt Aaronson, Addie Green and Warren Newell, led by its major proponent, Commissioner Jeff Koons, supported fluoridation. Chairman Masilotti did not attend the February 2004 meeting. Because the approval vote was not unanimous, Commissioners in 2004 directed last year that actual fluoridation would not be implemented pending review of the since released NRC study. The ADA and other fluoride proponents say the additive has proven itself an effective anti-cavity substance through a half-century of use in municipal water supplies and in toothpaste. Changes Mind What a member of the NRC study board said, however, calls into question that long-standing belief.Dr. Hardy Limeback is Canada's leading fluoride authority and, until recently, the country's primary promoter of fluoride. He now says flatly: “The evidence that fluoridation is more harmful than beneficial is now overwhelming.” Limeback lists four primary reasons for his opposition to fluoridation: • Fluoridation is no longer effective. “Fluoride in water has the effect of delaying tooth eruption and, therefore, simply delays dental decay.” • Fluoridation is the main cause of dental fluorosis – a change in the tooth’s enamel caused by fluoride. “We have tripled our exposure to fluoride since fluoridation was conceived in the 1940s. This has lead to every third child with dental fluorosis.” • Chemicals that are used in fluoridation have not been tested for safety. “It is industrial grade fluoride contaminated with trace amounts of heavy metals such as lead, arsenic and radium, which are harmful to humans at the levels that are being added to fluoridate the drinking water.” • There are serious health risks from water fluoridation. “Fluoridation studies have never properly shown that fluoride is safe in individuals who cannot control their dose, or in patients who retain too much fluoride.” Dr. Limeback concludes his comments in the NRC study by saying: “Policy makers who avoid thoroughly reviewing recent data before introducing new fluoridation schemes do so at risk of future litigation.” Commissioners will reexamine the question, and Weisman’s memo, at Tuesday’s county commission meeting. County Health Department head Dr. Jean Malecki, along with some county dentists, is expected to clash with Flack, Moreell, and others. John Johnston can be reached at 561-549-0833, or at jjohnston@bocanews.com * The material in this post is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.For more information go to: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm If you wish to use copyrighted material from this email for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giselle Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Hi Kim, I experienced the flouride debate firsthand while in Australia - where they had decided to stop flouridating because of all the negative reports and studies such as the ones you just posted. Then Canada followed suit. Interesting that both those countries have socialized medicine. When these countries implemented the flouride they obviously felt they were trying to save the costs that tooth decay cost them. When they found this to be false they stopped it as again what they were "saving" in cavities was costing them more with the related problems like flourosis and problems with organs and bones. I doubt it was as simple as that but in essence that is what happened. It cost their governments money! Here it is US that incurrs the loss of our health then we pay doctors and dentists more to try to fix the problems! There is little interest in changing this as it would make them loose money. Little Hoyt was about 3 when we were there and it was ironic but his doctor had just filled a prescription for flouride drops at his 3 year old check up and as we were leaving the country and I had so much to do I thought I would just get it filled when we got there. Well they wouldn't fill it for two reasons, one it wasn't a local doctor (although I could have had I got my doctor to go through their protocol of faxing proof etc.) and two because of all that was going on regarding flouride in their country. The pharmacist asked me whether or not I really wanted to do that and filled me in on all the problems! Needless to say when we got home I ordered non-flouridated bottled water and I use it for all our drinking and cooking. I once tried to have this debate with his dentist and she was super closed minded and insisted I flouridate him. Now when we go there she sort of gloats that his teeth are so nice (see Mom, aren't you glad you followed my advice) and I haven't mentioned anything to the contrary and am waiting to do so when he's no longer in her care (she's a pediatric dentist so he won't be able to go there forever). Kinda whimpy of me but there was NO changing her mind and I kinda want to show her the long term results. Thanks for posting! Giselle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemar Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Fluoride is a BIG no-no for both my kids. the first time, years ago, theyhad that awful fluoride paint at the dentist they got ill and I said never again. Since then I have avoided everything containing fluoride (including toothpaste) and they have great teeth!! (even the TS son who used to grind his!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giselle Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Plus look at the gorgeous teeth of the kids in developing nations - no flouride, milk, or many times even dentists! Giselle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted June 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 flouride drops! You know, one thing I'm learning is to print studies and the most mainstream medical things I can find regarding these substances that I'm afraid of for the boys. It's different when they read some of these things first hand. Someone on another forum was pointing out that these people work for us, we pay them. We do not need to stand for condesending criticism. http://home.att.net/~gtigerclaw/dead_rats.html Had to love this one. TS people may not be able to excrete or handle flouride (as with metals) either IMHO. The information on skeletal fluorosis down right frighteneing. http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/s10.htm I'm not sure if I posted this one previously or not. "Harvard Fluoride Study Investigated" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8570930/ Did Harvard study downplay risk of fluoride? University to probe professor’s research on water, bone cancer in boys Aletha http://www.freesoil.org Free Soil from role stereotyping, genetic and chemical assault, abuse of authority, ... http://www.freesoil.org Free Soil from role stereotyping, genetic and chemical assault, abuse of authority, ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kim Posted June 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Gas from heavily chlorinated water could damage young lungs, making them more susceptible later to developing asthma, researchers suggest MARTIN MITTELSTAEDT From Friday's Globe and Mail http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...eandHealth/home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Well worth reading http://www.utahstate.usu.edu/issues/summer06/autism1.htm http://www.pr.com/press-release/12618 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Acta Pharmacologica Sinica 2006 February; 27 (2): 129-139 Beneficial effects of melatonin in experimental models of Alzheimer disease http://www.chinaphar.com/1671-4083/27/129.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Here are the two cites in the July NIEHS. Also here is the text of a letter I sent to the HI governor. This post may be fwdd hither and yon. Teresa The newest issue of a peer-reviewed NIH journal (Environmental Health Perspectives, by Natl Institute of Environmental Health Sciences) has an article describing a major new finding about thimerosal's effect upon immune processes (2) and has a brief commentary about the significance of those findings (1). The commentary and the entire article are free online (1-2). Teresa Binstock Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy P.O. Box 1788 Estes Park CO 80517 usa 1. Nanomolar Thimerosal Dysregulates Cell Signaling http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2006/114-7/ss.html#pote 2. Uncoupling of ATP-Mediated Calcium Signaling and Dysregulated Interleukin-6 Secretion in Dendritic Cells by Nanomolar Thimerosal http://www.ehponline.org/members/2006/8881/8881.html All of these sites relate to the articles that Teresa posted, except the last one. The effects of problems with calcium influx are pretty well documented in TS http://www.google.com/search?q=calcium+inf...-8&start=0&sa=N Also the info on inositol http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/inositol3-6.html Dysregualtion of the immume system? http://www.neurotransmitter.net/ocdimmune.html DHEA and cortisol....a Hypothesis http://www.anthropogeny.com/A%20Potential%...%20Tourette.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Even at Advised Doses, Tylenol May Harm Liver Though overdoses have been linked to organ damage, the study is the first to suggest trouble in healthy people taking the drug as directed. By Denise Gellene Times Staff Writer July 5, 2006 http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci...1,7912813.story ************************** Autism Spectrum Disorders in Relation to Distribution of Hazardous Air Pollutants in the San Francisco Bay Area http://www.ehponline.org/members/2006/9120/9120.pdf Paraoxonase gene variants are associated with autism in North America, but not in Italy: possible regional specificity in gene-environment interactions. Mol Psychiatry. 2005 Nov;10(11):1006-16 Environmental mercury release, special education rates, and autism disorder: an ecological study of Texas. Health Place. 2006 Jun;12(2):203-9 "There was a significant increase in the rates of special education students and autism rates associated with increases in environmentally released mercury. On average, for each 1,000 lb of environmentally released mercury, there was a 43% increase in the rate of special education services and a 61% increase in the rate of autism. The association between environmentally released mercury and special education rates were fully mediated by increased autism rates." * * * * **************** Vaccines for kids now mercury-free One encephalitis strain is only exception as new law takes effect. By Dorsey Griffith -- Bee Medical Writer <dgriffith@sacbee.com> Published 12:01 am PDT Tuesday, July 4, 2006 Story appeared on Page A4 of The Bee http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/sto...-15084359c.html ************************************************************** Article is free online: http://www.springerlink.com/media/a5t5twvx...3g2903v5307.pdf Antibiotic treatment partially protects against type 1 diabetes in the Bio-Breeding diabetes-prone rat. Is the gut flora involved in the development of type 1 diabetes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=990002006 You have got a sterile gut when you are born and you have also got an immature gut, which doesn't work properly, particularly the pancreas. You also have a very immature immune system. *Can't help but to wonder how this plays out with a birth dose vaccine?* * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_1012.cfm USDA announced its intention to allow food grown in city and industrial sewage sludge, genetically engineered food, and irradiated food to be certified organic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 There are so many of these stories out there. Karen B. on the ASD board posted this today. So sad. For everyone struggling with Dr.s, please remember, it's not only our right to question medical decisions regarding our kids, it's our duty. * * * * * * * * * * NAA Board Member Laura Bono's comments to the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices I'm Laura Bono, a Board Member of the National Autism Association. I am not anti-vaccine. I am for safe vaccines. My son was fully vaccinated. On August 9, 1990, my son was developing normally. He was 16 ½ months old. Talking. Playing appropriately. Was very social. He was thriving. On that day, he received the following vaccines: HIB, DT, MMR and Polio. Seven viruses and bacterium with 50 mcg. of thimerosal which was 45 times the EPA limit for mercury for his weight. This mercury was on top of the cumulative dosage of 75 mcg. from the 2, 4 and 6 month shots. Jackson wouldn't sleep that night nor the nights that followed. Over the coming days strange rashes would come and go. Fevers would spike. Within the next weeks diarrhea and constipation would begin. His language stopped. His social skills disappeared. He began displaying odd repetitive behaviors. My Jackson was gone. His personality and health were stolen leaving a sickly, shell of a child behind. After a horrible four month long regression, Jackson was diagnosed with PDD. Over the years he has also been diagnosed with Mercury-Poisoning, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Spike and wave in temporal lobe, Leaky Gut Syndrome, Thyroid Insufficiency, Sensory Integration Disorder, Auditory Processing Dysfunction, Tinnitus, Speech, Language and Social Delay, Tourette's Syndrome, Colitis, Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder, Immune System Dysfunction causing food, inhalant and chemical allergies, Yeast and Viral overload, High Measles Titer, Apraxia, Dyspraxia, Static Encephalopathy and Lymphoid Nodular Hyperplasia. For those of you who don't know, these conditions have a common thread. They can all be caused by mercury toxicity. Jackson's abilities and God-given potential were wiped away in a single day due to mercury. At the Simpsonwood Retreat on June 9, 2000, a group of people some of whom you know, met to discuss an unknown study at the time led by Tom Verstraeten of the CDC. Verstraeten explained to the group that the relative risk of autism to the mercury preservative thimerosal was "linear and significant." But did these health officials use their doctorate degrees to immediately work on a plan to help the children? No. In my opinion, they began cherry-picking the data to save the vaccine program from embarrassment. These scientists were kidding themselves that their acts were for the public good. That the suffering children with mercury poisoning misdiagnosed as autism were the necessary casualties of the war on disease. Necessary collateral damage. An acceptable risk. Remember my son who got separate DPT and HIB shots delivering 50 mcg. of thimerosal? His subset was discussed at Simpsonwood. Because there were so many kids who got autism due to separately HIB and DPT, they deleted it from the study as to not skew the results. Here is Dr. Rhodes at the Simpsonwood meeting discussing this particular subset of children: On Page 105: "The other thing that happens at NCK is that even a year or two years after the policy change has been made and all kids are supposedly receiving the combination, there is an odd, small group of kids that supposedly receives separate DTP and Hib (note: with more thimerosal) and an unusually high percentage of those kids are outcomes." Rhodes discusses how he has deleted this extraordinarily high subset of children from the analysis on page 106: "For example, if 1,500 kids were receiving one vaccine combination in that month of birth and 20 were receiving some other, I have removed the 20 completely from the analyses." This subset deletion was just one of the many inventive ways the data was changed to fit the result the group was looking for – to bring the Thimerosal and Autism relative risk down from over 7 to a RR just above 2. They went on to work on the data, creating at least two more generations before the RR was under 1. The study showing no link to thimerosal and autism was published in the Nov. 2003 Pediatrics article. Please don't kid yourselves that thimerosal is gone and you don't have to think about it anymore. That it isn't your problem. Thimerosal is still in flu shots for pregnant women and children and still in vaccines in trace amounts along with a dangerously high bolus dose of aluminum. There's probably not a toxicologist among you but if there were, he or she would tell you that the heavy metal cocktail I've described is a recipe for disaster. As you know, there is a synergistic affect of metals. An LD1 of lead and an LD1 of mercury is equal anywhere from an LD50 to an LD100. What have we done as we increase aluminum exposure along with trace amounts of thimerosal? We will be substituting aluminum toxicity for mercury toxicity? My mercury poisoned son is now 17 year old. He is chelating and getting better. His return to good health underscores that children can be helped at any age. They just need the proper treatments and have them covered by insurance. At 17, while your son or daughter makes plans for the soccer game, going out with their friends and preparing for their senior year of high school, mine still can't have a meaningful conversation. I believe policy makers who approve vaccines laced with heavy metals are misguided and not keeping up with the latest research on heavy metal toxicity. You fail in your important jobs if you approve any vaccine without adequate testing – especially those for children. Safe vaccines must be paramount in your decisions. As a group you can redeem yourselves. Parents of autistic children need research help for their sick children and in your important jobs you can have an influence. We also need you to state a preference for thimerosal free/aluminum free shots for pregnant woman and children. The world is watching and our children are waiting. * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...332/1020/NEWS04 School personnel say they are seeing children who are sicker at younger ages than in the past, said Bonnie Soldano, executive director of the organization founded in 1994 by families raising suicidal teens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Alcohol Consumption- I'm wondering if any anyone can comment on how alcohol effects tics? http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/health/0...i=5070&emc=eta1 Normally, these receptors are activated by the neurotransmitter glutamate and allow calcium to enter neurons, setting off a cascade of changes that strengthen synapses, by helping to create repeated connections between cells, aiding in the efficient formation of new memories. AND Other research has found that while drunken adolescent rats become more sensitive to memory impairment, their hippocampal cells become less responsive than adults' to the neurotransmitter gamma-amino butyric acid, or GABA, which helps induce calmness and sleepiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline Help Send Kids To Prison http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/artic...pfizer_gsk.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...395567&in_page_ A new study shows a record rate of autism disorders, which now affect more than one in 100 children. But the figures could be the tip of the iceberg because they do not include a rising number of hyperactivity and behavioural problems such as ADHD. http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook...lth_autism.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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