philamom Posted January 8, 2011 Report Posted January 8, 2011 Fixit- I seem to remember you posting about yeast before. Let me start by saying I don't really get it...unless it's obvious to the eye, I'm confused. But like I said in another post, since returning from a dentist appt (the very moment) she's been extremely squirmish. In your opinion, does this sound like yeast? And why did it begin EXACTLY when we returned from the appt. Could the dental cleaning have released yeast systemically(sp)? Or maybe it's just a symptom of inflammation? It has gotten better, but still apparent. My daughter has high liver enzymes, so I'm hesitant to try difflucan/nystastin. Anyone?
Guest fr88 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Posted January 8, 2011 ALOT Of strep lives in the mouth- After I went to the dentist I always had worse tics and OCD. To prevent it, I now take antibiotics before. I also tell the dentist not to do any "deep cleaning" which would lead to a lot of bleeding. Fixit- I seem to remember you posting about yeast before. Let me start by saying I don't really get it...unless it's obvious to the eye, I'm confused. But like I said in another post, since returning from a dentist appt (the very moment) she's been extremely squirmish. In your opinion, does this sound like yeast? And why did it begin EXACTLY when we returned from the appt. Could the dental cleaning have released yeast systemically(sp)? Or maybe it's just a symptom of inflammation? It has gotten better, but still apparent. My daughter has high liver enzymes, so I'm hesitant to try difflucan/nystastin. Anyone?
philamom Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Posted January 8, 2011 ALOT Of strep lives in the mouth- After I went to the dentist I always had worse tics and OCD. To prevent it, I now take antibiotics before. I also tell the dentist not to do any "deep cleaning" which would lead to a lot of bleeding. Fixit- I seem to remember you posting about yeast before. Let me start by saying I don't really get it...unless it's obvious to the eye, I'm confused. But like I said in another post, since returning from a dentist appt (the very moment) she's been extremely squirmish. In your opinion, does this sound like yeast? And why did it begin EXACTLY when we returned from the appt. Could the dental cleaning have released yeast systemically(sp)? Or maybe it's just a symptom of inflammation? It has gotten better, but still apparent. My daughter has high liver enzymes, so I'm hesitant to try difflucan/nystastin. Anyone? Yes...I agree. It's in her chart to NOT do a "deep cleaning", but I let my guard down and forgot to remind them. When she came out holding her mouth...I knew I was in trouble! She is on daily abxs. Fortunately, there was not an increase of ocd! Thanks!
Fixit Posted January 8, 2011 Report Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) i still find yeast difficult to catch and put it together...and go oh yah...yeast there could be some yeast in the mouth..and more so if there is thrush.... for ds he had a screech that would come in...and sometimes he would just be all over the place..self stimulating.. moving constantly, tossing small baby chairs in air, catching it with his feet..tacklining his brothers... so if this sound like in the same avenue i think it could be,but not as exaggerated, and maybe it wouldn't be for her as she is a girl, they are usually more calm..and would probably follow suite in case too.. yah..i would say he seemed figity even sitting down, getting up , adjusting, twisting.. it gets hard to recall, when you are in a new place, and have new panda kids..and remembering what is not crucial at the moment... you can do the morining spit test...i haven't done it in a while..... i wonder if i ever checked when he wasn't in episode.... i would almost think if your dd is on abx..that the spit test would show some irregularity itchy behinds and vaginal yeast infections are another clue also regular nsaids create a better yeast enviroment(as in let it grow in a not good way) i can't say that ole helped my ds as an anti bacterial..fungal.. there are some who respond to it i've been using biotin for some time...to help keep canida at bay... plus there are other things it does that our family needs not saying its the only thing that is helping us if you want to check with your doc about the internal parasite formula i posted....it says it treats candida too..... so i don't know if it got some parasites..or finally got his flora back in order...but ds is doing pretty well... Edited January 9, 2011 by Fixit
philamom Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Posted January 9, 2011 Thanks! She has no physical complaints of yeast. We do high doses of probiotics and one Florastor daily. I really don't give many supplements, because she seems to react...and then I back down. She is currently only taking abxs, burber for detox, multi-vitamin and probiotics. On the weekends, I sometimes add in bentonite clay. Maybe I should consider an anti-yeast product. Afraid to rock the boat though!
Fixit Posted January 9, 2011 Report Posted January 9, 2011 well...biotin is just a b vitamin..and is dispensed in 1-3mg....maybe you could even start with a half... i'm guessing it would take a while.. it stops the yeast from converting to its fungal form..if i worded that right http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/the-roll-of-biotin-in-the-treatment-of-candida.html
sptcmom Posted January 9, 2011 Report Posted January 9, 2011 Some signs of yeast and /or mold sensitivity/toxicity are white coating on the tongue, itchy anal, perianal and vaginal areas, bloating, gas, sugar cravings,stinky BMs, sinus congestion, numbness and tingling etc. The one product that helps with yeast is Oil of oregano. I found that a pharmaceutical grade oil is the best and in my practice I use the product A.D.P. from Biotics Research. http://www.bioticsresearch.com/node/1654 Along with a good detox plan ofcourse, especially liver detox- soemthing like Livertone would be good addition.. Diflucan, etc are the medications that help as im sure you already know. Jodie
philamom Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Posted January 9, 2011 Thanks for the info guys. I think I'll wait and bring up at our appt in two weeks.
PacificMama Posted January 11, 2011 Report Posted January 11, 2011 I am just learning a bit more about yeast as it appears it is also one of my younger daughter's problems. (I'm going to post more on that at some point). I did just want to point out that Nystatin is different from Difulcan in that Nystatin is not absorbed into the blood stream. I'm just going to paste below a better description of the difference. Anyway, my daughter just started nystatin not too long ago, and we have already seen good results (she has intestinal yeast, but likely elsewhere). Nystatin is considered a local antifungal. It inhibits the overgrowth of colonies of yeast that line the digestive system. There is no significant absorption of Nystatin into the bloodstream so it can be taken long term with no major concern. It can be taken for months or years in many cases. Think of Nystatin like Pepto Bismal, Pepto Bismal coats the stomach and Nystatin coats the inner lining of the digestive tract. Because it coats the lining of the digestive tract, generally we need to take it several times a day to keep that coat in place. In comparison, Diflucan is considered a systemic antifungal which means when you take it orally it will be absorbed into the blood stream within about 2 hours. It also has a local effect in the digestive system as well but it is absorbed into the body and is metabolized in the liver. So there is the potential for risk of liver stress with long term use. So if your child is taking Diflucan you will want to run blood work every 6 – 8 weeks in my experience to check for liver stress.
philamom Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Posted January 11, 2011 Thank's Mary. I don't have any experience with either - very helpful. I look forward to your post about your younger daughter.
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