Introduction

[MichaelTampa]

I really haven't been careful to keep straight antibiotics and antifungals and all those other bad guys. I guess now that I'm seriously caught up in this PANDAS, I need to pay more attention. But, these links read like nystatin is both antifungal and antibiotic. But then the first article goes on to read like it could be combined with antibiotics, which is different than actually being antibiotic. Hmm...

 

http://www.invent.org/Hall_Of_Fame/75.html

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10873841

 

Hopefully the rotation is just to make sure your liver can handle it, and not so the bad guys build up immunity, like they can to the drugs/antibiotics?

 

I have been working with an acupuncturist / doctor of oriental medicine on the candida. I have just started seeing an integrative MD, not sure what he will add to that picture. I have had the candida over a year (perhaps many years), and for some of the last year, psychiatric and other issues were more serious that candida was the least of my worries. But, I think the last 6 months, I have been avoiding basically all fruits and sugars and sweeteners and even many sweet vegetables. It would be overstating things only a little to describe the foods I actually do eat as oatmeal, brown rice, whole grain wheat and rye, broccoli, cauliflower, string beans, onions, garlic, celery, cucumber, lettuce, romaine lettuce, lima beans, basil, cilantro, parsley, canned other beans, walnuts, cashews, coconut oil, olive oil, and grapseed oil. My body just goes crazy with other things, including anything yellow/orange and known for beta-carotene (these are also sweet). But, I will admit I just learned about the no vinegar thing a couple weeks ago, not that I was having a lot of pickled things. For candida, I have been taking NOW Candida Clear, Xymogen Saccharomycin, FOS, walnuts, coconut oil, probiotics, digestive enzymes, Xymogen GarliX (garlic extract). All these steps of diet control and pills really have helped a lot, but not to the point of finishing the problem off, just making it better.

 

Actually, feeling quite horribly hungry today, following both meals, normally a sign of a candida mistake. I did just start the oregano oil today, before each meal, and wondering if it could have been a mistake, even though my body tested good for it. Or, a strong candida die-off I have heard can feel like a step backward, but always thought those were more headaches and not so much hunger feeling (as if the candida is eating the food/nutrients meant for me).

 

Michael

[matis_mom]

I really haven't been careful to keep straight antibiotics and antifungals and all those other bad guys. I guess now that I'm seriously caught up in this PANDAS, I need to pay more attention. But, these links read like nystatin is both antifungal and antibiotic. But then the first article goes on to read like it could be combined with antibiotics, which is different than actually being antibiotic. Hmm...

 

http://www.invent.org/Hall_Of_Fame/75.html

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10873841

 

Hopefully the rotation is just to make sure your liver can handle it, and not so the bad guys build up immunity, like they can to the drugs/antibiotics?

 

I have been working with an acupuncturist / doctor of oriental medicine on the candida. I have just started seeing an integrative MD, not sure what he will add to that picture. I have had the candida over a year (perhaps many years), and for some of the last year, psychiatric and other issues were more serious that candida was the least of my worries. But, I think the last 6 months, I have been avoiding basically all fruits and sugars and sweeteners and even many sweet vegetables. It would be overstating things only a little to describe the foods I actually do eat as oatmeal, brown rice, whole grain wheat and rye, broccoli, cauliflower, string beans, onions, garlic, celery, cucumber, lettuce, romaine lettuce, lima beans, basil, cilantro, parsley, canned other beans, walnuts, cashews, coconut oil, olive oil, and grapseed oil. My body just goes crazy with other things, including anything yellow/orange and known for beta-carotene (these are also sweet). But, I will admit I just learned about the no vinegar thing a couple weeks ago, not that I was having a lot of pickled things. For candida, I have been taking NOW Candida Clear, Xymogen Saccharomycin, FOS, walnuts, coconut oil, probiotics, digestive enzymes, Xymogen GarliX (garlic extract). All these steps of diet control and pills really have helped a lot, but not to the point of finishing the problem off, just making it better.

 

Actually, feeling quite horribly hungry today, following both meals, normally a sign of a candida mistake. I did just start the oregano oil today, before each meal, and wondering if it could have been a mistake, even though my body tested good for it. Or, a strong candida die-off I have heard can feel like a step backward, but always thought those were more headaches and not so much hunger feeling (as if the candida is eating the food/nutrients meant for me).

 

Michael

You are definitely on the right track taking care of your body, kudos to you for being able to stick to a healthy diet. You might want to try Threelac, it's a probiotic specially designed for candida, it helped us a lot when we were dealing with thrush. I think the off-feeling today could be die-off. I would stick with the oil of oregano at least three days and see. Also, don't over do it. For a grown up, three drops of the oil are more than enough. You can put it on an empty capsule so you don't have to taste it.

[MichaelTampa]

I think the capsule idea is excellent for those who can do it. I mixed it in a bit of water and it is just incredibly strong stuff, tough to take. I actually can't swallow capsules. I did take 3 before breakfast yesterday and 3 before lunch. I energy tested for that much each time. But, am curious, if taking just 3 per day, would you do just 3 all at once rather than spreading it out throughout the day?

 

Michael

[Stephanie2]

Isabel,

 

You asked if anyone has tried natural remedies...I am not sure if you mean for the yeast, strep or both.

 

I have had some success with Olive Leaf Extract for strep, and Oil of Oregano for yeast and strep.

 

Here is what we are currently doing for yeast, it's a WAR!:

 

Diflucan (on and off)

Nystatin

Phenol Assist (by Kirkman Labs), I give with each meal

S. Boulardii

Culturelle

Antifungal Rotation (switch every 4 days): Oil of Oregano, Biocidin, Pau D'arco.

 

At the moment we have yeast under control (even with 375 mg of Pen VK per day), but it crops up and I have to keep battling it...

 

Best of luck!

Stephanie