yeast

[bmom]

We started talking about yeast and probiotics in an earlier thread, but it is on my mind so I am starting its own. Yes, I have read through some of the old threads on this, but have a few questions. I am not sure this is a problem for my son, but if it is would a yogurt a day and low carb, high protein diet be enough to resolve it or would I have to have him take something such as Threelac. What type of probiotics do you all find success with and what would the dosage be for an adult and for a child? Thank you all for input.

[kim]

Hi bmom and jkc

 

I am using Gr8-Dophilus from NOW brands, 4 billion potency. We have used Culturelle in the past. I switched to this brand only because I could buy it locally, instead of ordering.

 

I think the amt. is largely based on what your needs are. I remember one parent posting that her Dr. laughed about a dose like 4 billion. He said 100 billion (or 200 billion????) would be more like it. I can't remember if her child was taking antibiotics at that time or not. I can't i magine using capsules to reach anywhere near that amt. I'm lucky to get 2 a day in my youngest son. I have also found that biotin helps him. This was discussed on another forum, as being helpful for yeast. I also remember from the time he was just a baby, this kid had the thinnest finger and toe nails. Biotin is mostly talked about in relationship to healthy hair and nails.

 

I am not sure this is a problem for my son, but if it is would a yogurt a day and low carb, high protein diet be enough to resolve it or would I have to have him take something such as Threelac.

bmom, I have always been confused on the yogurt thing. One thing that makers of probiotics suggest, is that it's hard for the bacteria to survive the stomach acid and pancreatic secreations, yet many feel kefir is wonderful and commercial yogurt claims to help repopulate the gut. However, most commercial yogurts are high in sugar also, which would feed the yeast. I personally don't think yogurt alone would be enough to help a true overgrowth in yeast.

 

I have read several times to get as much protein into the child as possible , but there are exceptions, where protein can cause problems with high ammonia levels. This gets pretty complicated, so I guess I would just say to carefully observe. I think as a general rule, most of us get excessive carbs, so balancing with fruits veggies and protein, would be wise in most cases, but again watch your particular childs reaction.

 

This is some info. I ran across on the enzyme bd. Thought the relationship to the use of probiotics and tamping down a TH1 immune response was interesting. May be helpful info for anyone dealing with inflammatory bowel disease and other autoimmune issues.

 

http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/15479680

 

Gut. 2004; 53(11):1602-9 (ISSN: 0017-5749)

Hart AL; Lammers K; Brigidi P; Vitali B; Rizzello F; Gionchetti P; Campieri M; Kamm MA; Knight SC; Stagg AJ

Antigen Presentation Research Group, Faculty of Medicine Imperial College London, Northwick Park Campus, Watford Road, Harrow, Middlesex HA1 3UJ, UK.

 

 

Modulation of human dendritic cell phenotype and function by probiotic bacteria.

 

RESULTS: VSL#3 was a potent inducer of IL-10 by dendritic cells from blood and intestinal tissue, and inhibited generation of Th1 cells.

 

This is a link from the product that they are talking about in the study.

 

http://www.vsl3.com/VSL3/healthcare.asp

[bmom]

Thanks for the info. Does anyone know if Threelac is a probiotic? It sounded like it is a probiotic so I guess I dont have to give a probiotic with it right? Just use it by itself?

[CarolynN]

Hi bmom:

 

I just wanted to tell you something real quick about Threelac. My dad has used it with great success but a good friend of mine had some major side effects from it including a yeast infection (yes believe it or not) and a pelvic infection. She had never experienced any of these until the Threelac. You can read this web page I found to find out more http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/threelacreview.html . I hope this helps.

 

Carolyn

[bmom]

Thanks, I am starting to lean towards the Candida Clear by Now. Has anyone resulted in more tics when beginning this? Does it have a die off effect? Thanks once again for info.

[Chemar]

hi

 

CANDIDA CLEAR has been by far the best yeast buster we have ever tried and also cleared my son's acne