EAMom Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/10/978.full I wonder if the hep b vaccine is setting the stage for more kids to develop PANDAS? I know my PANDAS dd even got an "extra" hep b vaccine as a baby (due to switching medical groups). note: The hep B vaccine is on the CDC schedule in the US starting at birth...which is crazy b/c it's a sexually transmitted disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasu Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Yes, thank you for posting. I noticed this study didnt originate in vaccimerica. nicklemama and EAMom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Just an FYI, my kiddo has not had any hep b vaccines (refused all vaccines in the hospital) in case that helps with pieces to the puzzle. Unless of course they vaccinated in the hospital against my express wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/10/978.full I wonder if the hep b vaccine is setting the stage for more kids to develop PANDAS? I know my PANDAS dd even got an "extra" hep b vaccine as a baby (due to switching medical groups). note: The hep B vaccine is on the CDC schedule in the US starting at birth...which is crazy b/c it's a sexually transmitted disease. Yeah, by the time the kids are old enough to be sexually active, the immunity imputed by the vaccine would have waned without a booster. BTW, they do pregnancy tests on 11 year olds in my area. They "needed" this test prior to our T & A. EAMom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Oh my goodness mayzoo, that is unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasu Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I forgot to mention that our kids did not have the HepB vaccine (unless, as Mayzoo mentioned, it was given without consent) and have PANDAS. We followed a delayed vax schedule but also note that we didn't see PANDAS until after vaxxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) mayzoo and dasu, Are you saying that your kids didn't have the birth dose or didn't have the series at all? The newer combo shots are enough to make your head spin. more links.... http://www.vaccines.net/vaccine-induced-immune-overload.pdfReview of Vaccine Induced Immune Overload and the Resulting Epidemics ofType 1 Diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, Emphasis on Explaining the RecentAccelerations in the Risk of Prediabetes and other Immune Mediated Diseases http://www.vaccines.net/toppage1.htmCongress Told Hepatitis B Vaccine Linked to Rise in Diabetes http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cdc-data-supports-causal-relationship-between-vaccines-and-diabetes-diabetics-begin-seeking-legal-counsel-before-their-right-to-compensation-expires-vaccines-proven-to-be-largest-cause-of-insulin-dependent-diabetes-in-children-73348077.html CDC Data Supports Causal Relationship between Vaccines and Diabetes; Diabetics Begin Seeking Legal Counsel Before Their Right to Compensation Expires; Vaccines Proven to be Largest Cause of Insulin Dependent Diabetes in Children http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis.org/News-And-Events/Our-News/Detail/New+study+strongly+suggests+hepatitis+B+vaccination+in+France+sparked+a+wave+of+new+cases+of+MS/ New study strongly suggests hepatitis B vaccination in France sparked a wave of new cases of MS http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266455/Evolution of multiple sclerosis in France since the beginning of hepatitis B vaccinationhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235045/Lupus. 2012 Feb;21(2):146-52. doi: 10.1177/0961203311429318.Autoimmunity following hepatitis B vaccine as part of the spectrum of 'Autoimmune (Auto-inflammatory) Syndrome induced by Adjuvants' (ASIA): analysis of 93 cases.http://vaccineimpact.com/2014/study-adjuvants-in-hepatitis-b-vaccine-linked-to-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-and-fibromyalgia/ http://www.epatienthealthcare.com/2015/03/05/attacking-ourselves-top-doctors-reveal-vaccines-turn-our-immune-system-against-us/#.VPo9D-Gj_IBAttacking Ourselves: Top Doctors Reveal Vaccines Turn Our Immune System Against Us Edited March 21, 2015 by kim EAMom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) mayzoo and dasu, Are you saying that your kids didn't have the birth dose or didn't have the series at all? The newer combo shots are enough to make your head spin. more links.... http://www.vaccines.net/vaccine-induced-immune-overload.pdf Review of Vaccine Induced Immune Overload and the Resulting Epidemics of Type 1 Diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, Emphasis on Explaining the Recent Accelerations in the Risk of Prediabetes and other Immune Mediated Diseases http://www.vaccines.net/toppage1.htm Congress Told Hepatitis B Vaccine Linked to Rise in Diabetes http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis.org/News-And-Events/Our-News/Detail/New+study+strongly+suggests+hepatitis+B+vaccination+in+France+sparked+a+wave+of+new+cases+of+MS/ New study strongly suggests hepatitis B vaccination in France sparked a wave of new cases of MS http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266455/ Evolution of multiple sclerosis in France since the beginning of hepatitis B vaccination http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235045/ Lupus. 2012 Feb;21(2):146-52. doi: 10.1177/0961203311429318. Autoimmunity following hepatitis B vaccine as part of the spectrum of 'Autoimmune (Auto-inflammatory) Syndrome induced by Adjuvants' (ASIA): analysis of 93 cases. http://vaccineimpact.com/2014/study-adjuvants-in-hepatitis-b-vaccine-linked-to-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-and-fibromyalgia/ http://www.epatienthealthcare.com/2015/03/05/attacking-ourselves-top-doctors-reveal-vaccines-turn-our-immune-system-against-us/#.VPo9D-Gj_IB Attacking Ourselves: Top Doctors Reveal Vaccines Turn Our Immune System Against Us Unless the hospital gave it against my wishes, my child has not had any hep b shots at all. Her Hep B surface ag is negative is all I know. I worked in pharmacy for 20 + years at that point, and there was no reproductive data on female children given this vaccine at that delicate age, so I told them absolutely no in no uncertain terms . I also used a modified vac schedule. Kiddo only received the vaccines I received as a child (plus 1). She received: Polio DTAP HIB MMR (only one--she reacted horribly) Varicella (Only one) None of these ever: Prevnar Hep B Hep A Gardasil Rotovirus Pneumococcal Influenza I should add that her titers for all the vaccines she received are about 5-10 times higher than the level they should be, so much so, her immunologist treated her for over a year to reduce her rubella titers (> 9 positive and hers was 147)and is currently treating her to reduce her varicella titer (>165 positive and hers is 1113) . Edited March 21, 2015 by mayzoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) mayzoo I know this is probably being overly simplistic, but is it generally thought that your child has hyper adaptive response and hypo innate? Edited March 21, 2015 by kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 mayzoo I know this is probably being overly simplistic, but is it generally thought that your child has hyper adaptive response and hypo innate? I have never pinned her immuno down on it, but that sounds right based on her responses to bacteria and viruses vs her response to immunizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Oh my goodness mayzoo, that is unbelievable! They did not want to tell me what they needed the urine sample for, but when she had difficulty using the restroom, they finally broke down and asked me if she had started her cycle yet and if I was certain there was no chance she could be pregnant. *sigh* sad to say now days 11 year olds are in fact rarely pregnant, but still some are . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) I know you said no Prevnar, but did you have any testing regarding ability to respond to Polysaccharides? I'm sure you know this, but I mean the S pneumonia titers? Edited March 21, 2015 by kim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicklemama Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I wish I'd been smarter about vaccines when DS was a baby. EAMom and MomWithOCDSon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I know you said no Prevnar, but did you have any testing regarding ability to respond to Polysaccharides? I'm sure you know this, but I mean the S pneumonia titers? M Pneumonia tested, S pneumonia no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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