How long to rebuild immune - reduce tics.

[itsme]

Does anyone have any idea how long it takes to rebuild the immune system after using antibiotics for 10 days after a bad bout of bronchitis. This is what happened to our 5 yr. old. 2 months ago. He also took prednisone (a steroid that breaks down the immune system) for 4 days 1 week ago. Tics have been up and down over past 4 months since they started.

 

Any input is greatly appreciated.

[Chemar]

itsme

 

rebuilding immune system is dependent on how much it has been suppressed and what you are doing to boost it

 

Probiotics, antioxidants and immune boosting herbs and supplements all help

 

also check with your doctor about Uno de Gato (aka Cats Claw) which is a very powerful immune boosting herb, usually taken in liquid tincture form or tea. I stress very powerful and that you should consult with a knowledgable physician before giving it to a child, especially such a young one

 

Kefir is a real help too, as is natural yoghurt

 

My son has Crohn's Disease and we refused any prednisone for him as we knew that steroids are a tic trigger

There are natural anti-inflammatories that work as well, if not better and even the regular GI specialist is amazed at my son's progress on these (He is the doc that insisted that without steroid treatment my son would require surgery )

[itsme]

itsme

 

rebuilding immune system is dependent on how much it has been suppressed and what you are doing to boost it

 

Probiotics, antioxidants and immune boosting herbs and supplements all help

 

Also check with your doctor about Uno de Gato (aka Cats Claw) which is a very powerful immune boosting herb, usually taken in liquid tincture form or tea. I stress very powerful and that you should consult with a knowledgable physician before giving it to a child, especially such a young one

 

Kefir is a real help too, as is natural yoghurt

 

My son has Crohn's Disease and we refused any prednisone for him as we knew that steroids are a tic trigger

There are natural anti-inflammatories that work as well, if not better and even the regular GI specialist is amazed at my son's progress on these (He is the doc that insisted that without steroid treatment my son would require surgery )

 

I don't know if I have told you before before, but I want to thank you so much for all of your time providing me and others advice and suggestions and peace of mind. Also I love your profile qoute about "be anxious for nothing" I lean on God and he provides everyday - just as he has led me to this forum.

 

Just a quick question. You said steroids are a tic trigger. We gave our 5 year old with Ts the prednisone for 4 days and stopped last monday. I do know they break down the immune. Do you think that could still be affecting him??

 

Also, (sorry, 2 questions) with everything you know - what are the chances of minimizing my boy's tics? I know - a LOADED question. I first thought 4 months ago when the tics started that Bontech sups were the only thing, now it looks like there are other possibilities. What's weird is it seemed like the sups were helping for a few days until he got a bad bout of bronchitis which ended about two months ago. I would think that his immune should have recovered from that. But it does seem like the supplements work for nearly everyone - just to varying degrees???

 

Thanks again so much.

[kim]

itsme,

 

While you're waiting for other replys, you might find these interesting reading.

 

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/arthritis/t...ts/steroids.htm

 

Does everyone have side effects?

Not all patients will develop side effects. How often any side effect occurs varies from patient to patient. If steroid use is brief (from a few days to a few weeks), it is possible that none of the listed side effects will occur. The side effects listed to the left generally do not occur when occasional steroid injections are given for arthritis, tendinitis or bursitis.

 

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/bones/...t.antirheum.htm

 

Corticosteroids. The corticosteroid drug prednisone (Deltasone, Meticorten, Prednisone Intensol, Sterapred) usually produces rapid and dramatic symptomatic improvement by reducing inflammation and suppressing the immune system. As a result, physicians and patients alike have been tempted to continue steroid use for long periods, despite many serious side effects including stomach ulcers, diabetes, high

blood pressure, muscle wasting, cataracts, increased susceptibility to infections, and psychiatric disturbances.

 

(I didn't know about that concern)

 

 

 

http://au.geocities.com/jones_kacm/chem.htm

Androgens

It has long been known that androgens (such as testosterone, the male sex hormone) affect Tourette syndrome. This is why Tourette syndrome affects three times more males than females. Also, Shapiro et al. (1988) and Scahill (1990) reported that anabolic steroids made Tourette syndrome symptoms worse.

The reason these androgens aggravate Tourette syndrome is probably related to serotonin. It is known that steroids lower serotonin levels, and it is probable that high levels of other androgens will as well.