Amalgan filling remove bef using homepathic med to detox?

[patty]

Hi All,

 

I just realized my son has 1 amalgan filling. It must have been there at least a year and i totally forgot about it.

 

Back in the summer, our ND recommended homeopathic medicine to detox his liver, kidney and tissue, and used probiotic. Everything resulted in more tics. I am wondering if the detox is drawing the mercury from his filling which caused more symptoms??

 

Can someone give me advice on this issue? Many thanks!

 

Also, my son's head nodding tic returned yesterday. The only thing that is different is that his chiro started massaging his lymph nodes because they are swollen. My son has nasal allergies and has freq bloody nose. My son's chiro said "lymphatic drainage" helps with his sinus and detoxification.

 

Does anyone know if "lymphatic drainage" can cause more tics as well as other symptoms, such as headache, stomache and sore throat? Also, can "lymphatic drainage" draw out mercury from his filling?

 

Right now, my son is having headache, stomache and sore throat, so I am giving him epsom bath and lots of purified water.

 

Patty

[Guest]

Hi Patty,

 

I don't think your son should detox using anything that is meant to detox heavy metals with an amalgam filling in his mouth. When I first started learning about heavy metals, a dan doctor who just jumped on board for the money had me doing a mud bath detox program. He knew I had amalgam fillings in, but it didn't bother him one bit. I didn't do well with this treatment, and I don't think he should have been having me detoxing heavy metals with this mud bath while I had amalgam fillings in.

 

I'd probably say its best to do the hair test before going any further. If you have the amalgam filling removed, you're probably going to need to go through with heavy metal detox afterwards. Once in the middle of heavy metal detox, I don't feel it's safe to stop.

 

I'm really just guessing on this part, but I think any form of detox could contribute to increased tics, but once the person's cleared, I would think things would get better. I don't think that lymphatic drainage could draw out mercury from his fillings, but then again I'm not for sure.

 

Carolyn

[patty]

Thx Carolyn.

[Giselle]

Hi Patty, one thing about his swollen lymph nodes and an increase in tics - swollen lymph nodes usually means that your son is getting sick or fighting an illness, my son always has an increase in tics when he's getting sick.

 

Giselle

[patty]

Gieselle,

My son has a nasal inflammation for a couple of years now. He was on flonase off & on for probably 1/2 months altogether. His nasal inflammation is still there but not congested.

 

Anyway, since his tic started about 8 months ago, he has been sick for probably 3 times, mostly cold & sore throat. And it didn't seem to tigger more tics until now. That's why i was wondering if the returned of head nod is due to "lymphatic drainage".

 

Patty

[Chemar]

Patty

Carolyn has given you very good advice there re the amalgam filling and detox....she knows this from experience!

 

Lymph nodes do swell as a result of infection,or toxins or something else that the body is fighting, as Giselle pointed out

 

and so it stands to reason that if the lymph nodes are being drained, that the release of the "gunk" trapped in them could cause an upheaval in the system.........thereby REQUIRING detox

 

so it kinda a circle there....you need to avoid detox stuff, especially of metals, because of the amalgam filling....but there are toxins in his system and so he NEEDS to detox

 

I would agree that you need to have the hair test done asap to determine what metals etc may be there (do remember that hair tests are done best on "older" hair and so do NOT let your child have a haircut a good 3 weeks prior to the test

 

Also, getting that amalgam removed is something you may want to strongly consider as a priority

 

Chlorella is an excellent supplement for mopping up mercury in the system and, because it doesnt cross the blodd brain barrier like ALA does, is also safe to use .

It needs to be very gradually introduced tho, starting at tiny doses and then moving up, as many people can feel nauseaous when forst taking it

 

so good that you are encouraging him to have lots of pure water to flush his system!

[patty]

Carolyn & Chemar,

 

After reading your replies, i want to confirm a few things.

 

1. Since my son has a filling, stay away from metal detox?

 

2. Since my son's lymph nodes are swollen, it is evidence that toxins are trapped in his system, so detox is necessary? Because "lymphatic drainage" is NOT metal detox, so it is OK??!!

 

3. Since Chlorella doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, it is safe to use while my son has the filling in his mouth?? Does chlorella only mop up mercury in the body and NOT the brain?

 

BTW, the epsom salt seems to help with my son's tic. He is also on chinese medicine to clear up his nasal inflammation right now. So i think the 2 things are working in complement of each other.

 

Thx!

 

Patty

[Guest]

Hi Patty,

 

1. Yes, stay away from metal detox as long as your son has a filling.

 

2. I'll save that one for Chemar and also ask some additional questions. When I saw my chelation doctor last month, he said that my lympth nodes were swollen, my ears and my nose were all partially blocked. What can I do for these things and how can I try to prevent them? I'm sure they have to be affecting how well I'm detoxing the metals.

 

3. I wouldn't think that it would be safe to use Chlorella with a mercury filling in the mouth. I know that I've read things like NDF Plus which contains Chlorella that say its safe to use with mercury fillings in the mouth. However, I think it may be risky business. DMPS and DMSA don't cross the blood brain barrier either, but yet you're never supposed to use them with mercury fillings in the mouth.

 

That's great that the epsom salt is helping your son's tics.

 

Carolyn

[patty]

Carolyn,

 

Do you have a chiropractor? Perhaps you may want to have your lymph nodes drain while you are chelating. And drink lots of water. As i understand, water helps with the detox process.

 

Patty

[Guest]

Patty,

 

Nope, I don't have a chiropractor. My acupuncturist does Chinese cupping, but I've never had chiropractic work done.

 

Carolyn

[Chemar]

chinese cupping is an excellent detox method Carolyn!

[Giselle]

Hi again, so glad epsom salts work well - they really do for Hoyt too - just to let you know Kirkman labs makes a magnesium cream you apply to the skin for times when a long bath is out of the question. One really excellent thing for detox that is super yummy is Artichokes! Who knew? Hoyt just liked them (his favorite food! actually craves them sometimes, then I found out that thistle is excellent for detox and it all made sense). We bought a pressure cooker just to make them. I put olive oil, garlic and salt in a dish, stir it up and drizzle it over them before they cook - super delish! Hoyt's been having a tough time on and off and that's exactly what he gets - artichokes for dinner and a magnesium bath.

 

We use chlorella too. I actually used it after an unplanned removal of a mercury filling (it literally crumbled out while I was having my teeth cleaned!). Also was told to make a salad with beet greens and parsley - kinda yucky but only ate it for a week or so.

 

Giselle

[patty]

Gieselle,

 

Thanks for the tip on magnesium cream. I will get some for my son.

 

When my son started the head nodding tic Saturday, i didn't have time to give him the Epsom bath and it got worst on Sunday. Anyways, he had 2 epsom baths on Sunday, one in the AM & PM, and the noddings are almost gone as he woke up on Monday.

 

Since we have been avoiding MSG, artifical food colorings and perservatives, and along with chiropractic adjustment, my son's tics have improved alot.

 

Now that i find out epsom salt bath reduces his tics, does it mean he is phenolic sensitive? If so, would No-Fenol, an enzyme mixture that assist with digestion of highly phenolic foods, such as fruits, chemicals and articial additives would help with his tics?

 

Patty

[Giselle]

Hi Patty, I think what the magnesium baths show is that he might be magnesium deficient. Which many of Tourettes kids are (and actually our DAN doc believes about 70-80% of the regular population are as well and believes that many of the newish auto-immune illnesses can be attributed in part to this). Your son might benefit from the No-phenol if phenols are a problem for him - they might not be - although I believe this product helps somehow with yeast if I recall (I don't remember why but if you search this forum I'm sure it's somewhere - or perhaps Kim might pipe in - I think she knows a lot about it).

 

I don't know if you've done this yet but a delayed food allergy test (IGg) would be a wonderful tool for finding food related tic triggers. It helped us immeasureably. At the time all this roller coaster started for us I couldn't wait for our first appointment with our DAN doctor so I tried an elimination diet. I first ruled out the ones that many people say effect our kids: gluten and dairy. He got WORSE - but when we got the test results back from the IGg test I found out why - he WAS allergic to gluten and dairy but he was also super allergic to corn! I had replaced all his wheat things with corn things hence why he got worse. To this day he's even more reactive to corn than dairy, soy and gluten combined; so much so that he gets grass fed beef from Whole Paycheck, I mean Whole Foods. He was reacting to beef and we finally figured out it was what they ate that bothered him not the actual cow!

 

We have started enzymes recently and they seem to be doing the job for him. He was showing that he was reacting to his vitamins - but he desperately needs his vitamins. Daniel Quan really urged me to try enzymes which we have. He is off all his vitamins except B12, B5, and his omegas. I was really worried about his P5P as he was B6 deficient (but that seems to be the one he's reacting to the most). But after a few days (7) on his enzymes he has been reporting remembering his dreams again! A good sign for B6 I believe. And his tics are remaining stable!

 

Giselle

[patty]

Gieselle,

 

Yes, we have done a delayed food sensitivity test with our ND this summer. My son is sensitive to wheat, dairy, rice, ... among many other things.

 

This summer, we treated my son for egg, chicken, rice, wheat, gluten, oat, oat bran, milk, casein, yogurt and butter using NAET. So my son is allowed wheat & dairy in moderation. I had my son retest all the things that he was treated. He passed all, but oat. I also suspect he is still sensitive to dairy becuz now that he is eating dairy, the small white heads on his cheeks have returned. I am putting NAET on hold since my son is school. I will revisit that in a few months. Right now, we are seeing a chiro to help him detox by working on his swollen lymph nodes, and a chinese doctor for his nasal inflammation & bloody nose.

 

My son's tics have gone from acute to very mild right now without any supplements. Our treatment plan consist of: chinese doctor, acupuncture, chiropractic, craniol sacral, NAET and used homepathic detox medicine for 1 month (we had to stop due to too much symptoms). My son also start to show more improvement when we started to avoid MSG, food colorings and perservatives. We are also eating mostly organic, drink filter water, use an air purifier, stop using nonstick pan and mircowave, use nontoxic detergent, cleaners, soap & shampoo, and watch LCD TV only.

 

I am thinking, the next thing i would like to do is a test for vitamin & mineral deficiencies. I am hoping by desensitizing my son's food & environmental allergies, his body is better able to absorb the necessary nutrients thru whole food. As a result, less supplement to take. As i understand, overtime, sometimes your body start to reject certain things.

 

Gieselle, thanks for reminding me that magnesium is often deficient in people with tics. My son is almost 7 and weighs about 50 lbs. Do you know what is the theraputic amount and what form of magnesium to take?

 

BTW, I am glad to hear that Hoyt is doing well on the enzymes and having to take less vitamins. This is very good news. How did you figure if this is the proper enzyme for him? Is there a test?

 

Patty