mag/cal/zinc

[deagar]

I was wondering if anyone knew how much mag/cal/zinc an 80# child should take? His pediatrician tested him for zinc levels and he came up with a value 0f 64 with 60 being low and 130 being high. She said he was fine in this area. I am seeing a naturopath doc and she hasn't really mentioned anything with vitamins. I pursued the B vitiamin issue and she suggested a good B vitamin but didn't comment on anything else. I want to try the mag/cal/zinc combo but don't know a dosage. Would a pharmacist be a good one to ask? Anyone else have any answers? Thanks - Deanna

[kim]

Deagar,

 

Under Bonnie's suggested use on the Bontech TS Plus Control, a 90 lb. person could take up to 20 capsules per day. This would give you 600 mgs. of magnesium taurate. Magnesium is one of the supplements that you can use bowel tolerence as an indicator, I believe. If you get too much, you will see the big D. Chemar always recommends double the calcium to whatever mag. you're taking, however Bonnie's vits have equal parts. So if my boys take 10 vitamins, they get 300 mgs. of Mag and 300 calcium. I do give separate calcium with vit. D supplements to bring them closer to the 2:1 ratio, but I just reordered and now TS Plus has Vit. D in it, so I will need a new calcium supplement, minus the D. I would work up slowly with what ever dose you decide on.

 

I give my youngest son who had a reading of 76 about 25 mgs. per nite in addition to what he gets in the Bontech vits, which is about 8 mgs. since he takes about 8 per day.

 

I also know that the zinc/copper balance is important. I just talked to the nurse practitioner today about rechecking zinc for my youngest son. She didn't have a problem with doing it, but didn't know anything about zinc/copper ratios. Did you by any chance have copper tested?

Claire knows the ratio that Pfeiffer recommends on that. Maybe she'll be along. You can read what Dr. Walsh from Pfeiffer has to say about zinc here: http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshQZ.htm

 

Hope that helps.

 

Kim

[Guest]

I double the calcium to the amount of magnesium I'm taking. As far of zinc, I also think you should always work with a physician. Yes, I have heard doctors suggesting a lot of zinc like Kim said. Zinc has helped me a bunch, but I also think you need to monitor the amount of zinc closely. You can find what the the DAN protocol suggests for the amount of zinc at the bottom of this document (Page 17): Zinc My doctor believes in finding what's best for me even if that doesn't match a protocol, etc. I believe that's how every doctor should treat each child/adult as just because something works for one doesn't mean it works for everyone else. Hope that info helps a bit and you can get your child's doctor to work on this issue with you.

 

Carolyn

[Chemar]

interesting about the amount of cal:mag being equal in BonTech supps as I believe it was Bonnie who years ago on BrainTalk posted about the necessity to have the 2:1 ratio!!!!

[orthomolecular]

I would like to suggest a product called Zinc Status which sells in health food stores for less than $20. In the UK would be called Zinc (or Zink) Talley.

 

Zinc Status will tell you if you child has a zinc deficiency. This test works. You can tell immediately if your child does NOT have a zinc deficiency because they will likely make a face or complain about the nasty taste. That is how this product works, if you can't taste it then it indicates a deficiency. Zinc plays a role in taste sensation.

 

For the price, this product is excellent to have around to check again if the deficiency is corrected. I have severe nutritional deficiencies which are only treated by orhtomolecular. I know that the dose to treat a deficiency can be surprisingly high to some people. It can take a pretty high dose for several months sometimes to correct a deficiency. One way you can know that the deficiency is corrected and the dose can be lowered is to use Zinc Status for zinc levels. But it is always good to consult with your doctor on this.

[Claire]

Pfeiffer had my 100 pound son taking equal mag/calcium. 500 mg each. But I do less. Pfeiffer says that calcium pulls lead, so I do give him some. They wanted him taking 70 mg zinc a day, and he went too high on that...out of range. They said to keep it up anyway cuz MT promotion depletes zinc. But I disagreed and cut back to 50 mg/day + 1 mg copper, and that seems to be right for him (while on MT promotion) based on the last testing. Many folks avoid copper, but I read if you supplement at least 50 mg zinc daily for 6 months, you need some copper...

 

I agree that measuring zinc/copper levels is important if you supplement a lot of zinc. Pfeiffer says the cu/zinc serum ratio should be .7 to 1.0.

 

I have heard that the zinc taste test is pretty good and certainly non-invasive. I should try it sometime, especially now that my son's zinc is in balance.

 

Claire