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Is this available only through a study, or do you have a prescription?
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Improvement of psychiatric symptoms in youth following resolution of sinusitis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28012531
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In remission-ish - Do we go with one IVIG per Dr K?
jan251 replied to bigmighty's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
With your brief description of his prior IVIg -- reacting right there in the hospital -- I would be careful with infusion rate and possibly pre-medicate (many people do ibuprofen and antihistamines). If you are paying out of pocket, price out your options ahead of time. Hospital infusions tend to be the most expensive, sometimes double or often triple the price of other options. As you are aware, home infusions tend to be the least, though if you feel more comfortable in a clinical setting (understandable with his prior infusion), there are infusion clinics all over the place these days, your basic clinic with rooms, nursing desk just like at the hospital, a doc in the building, etc. They just need a doctor's order. Our infusion clinic has an out of pocket price list. Yesterday I paid $83 per gram for 100g Gamunex C and about $500 nursing fees for two days of infusion (though my kid is pretty fast after so many monthly infusions, only about 3 hrs infusion time for 50 g/day x2) $8800 total for 115 lb kid. It is possible to call infusion clinics to ask about their out of pocket prices. -
In remission-ish - Do we go with one IVIG per Dr K?
jan251 replied to bigmighty's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
If you haven't done recent bloodwork, I'd do that first (a full immune system workup and infections). I would get another opinion if possible. I don't have advice, except that there's a lot more discussion activity in the FB groups, including one for ivig. I haven't seen a poll, though the Dr K one-and-done approach seems not necessarily as common as multiple infusions or even monthly (often high dose) these days; lots of different possible approaches. The two-year window, it's hard to guess what he bases that on. If you are planning a single high dose infusion, this summer sounds like a good time. If you saw a lot of side effects during/immediately after IVIg, with some pre-planning those may be easier to manage than your prior experience. -
New study implying that IVIg isn't much good?
jan251 replied to Wombat140's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
I don't see any new Swedo study. There was one a few years ago that was controversial due to the study design and everyone was irritated because it clouded the issue. See these older discussions: -
The Cunningham results (high anti-tubulin) confirmed our inclination to continue with HD IVIg in the hope of treating autoimmunity, "resetting" the immune system. Apparently anti-tubulin is associated with demyelination. However, that result was three years into PANDAS. The first result was only high CamKII. My understanding is that this is a common change over time, CamKII falls (it fell a bit from the high result when we ran the Cunningham 6 months into PANDAS, but not all the way back to normal) as some of the others in the panel increase.
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Does your PANS/PANDAS kid get the flu shot?
jan251 replied to JSL25's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
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Sinus surgery was easier than the tonsil surgery (my son is 14 y.o.). Tonsil surgery went ok, just that the recovery can be a bit painful in the first 7-10 days. The rhinologist was annoyed that the ENT who did the tonsillectomy had not looked at the sinuses (our immunologist ordered sinus CT a few months after the tonsillectomy and then sent us to the rhinologist). Rhinologist said sinus and tonsils should have been done at the same time.
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My son had lingering infection (doc found pus in the sinuses that did not show up on the CT). But, he did not have official chronic sinusitis, just post-nasal drip. It's hard to say whether that has resolved. Full recovery is said to be 4-6 weeks, but it was really the first week or so that was the most stuffy (swollen inside from the surgery).
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We did the sinus surgery in Sept. He needed to be fixed in there anyway. We saw a rhinologist, a sub-specialist of ENT, who used the most modern computer-guided techniques, no splints, no packing, back at school 4 days later. He was stuffy for a few weeks (which was not unusual compared to how he was before that, so he didn't complain much). The first week was the hardest. The culture of infected areas in the ethmoid and maxillary sinuses didn't yield anything, unfortunately. No improvement in OCD, but I have no regrets. His dad could use the same surgery Three months later, his ASO was down into the 200s, the lowest it's been since our PANDAS adventure began >3 yrs ago. (Had tonsils out last spring.)
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Coimbra Vitamin D Protocol for PANS?
jan251 replied to DreamingPanda's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
Vitamin D supplementation is controversial. It is theorized that supplementation further depletes magnesium in order to process it. If you try it, please report back!!!! -
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PANDAS - Hearing Sensitivity Treatments
jan251 replied to eacampbell67's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
Zith and mino are known to be ototoxic (can increase hearing sensitivity issues). Have they helped the other pans symptoms? Maybe try an increase in NAC? A separate issue, but D3 makes my panda worse, so we don't use that. -
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Most Effectives Treatments for PANS/PANDAS
jan251 replied to eacampbell67's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
Daptomycin, mentioned in that second link, is an IV abx. Dapsone is the oral version. My understanding is that Horowitz has been treating lyme patients with oral Dapsone for a couple of years, in combination with high dose folic acid (the study says folic acid was used for the purpose of mitigating the small risk of potentially very dangerous side effects of Dapsone, but on his FB page he says it was, indeed, methylfolate, i.e. natural folate rather than synthetic folic acid). He has a paper on it. https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/the-use-of-dapsone-as-a-novel-persister-drug-in-the-treatment-of-chroniclyme-diseasepost-treatment-lyme-disease-syndrome-2155-9554-1000345.php?aid=7159 From the anecdotes I've read, like anything else, it helps some and not others. Personally, I'm very interested in the anti-inflammatory and immune modulatory effects of Dapsone in addition to its antibiotic qualities. For a lyme angle, there is an interesting discussion here http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/136190 -
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T&A viable before sinus surgery?!
jan251 replied to Hitman3161's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
Can you do the whole thing privately, do the T&A and sinus surgery in one operation? That would seem to make the most sense, at least with what little I know. I suppose you might have to pay privately for the whole thing and I have no clue how the system works there, but it may be worth asking the ENT if she could bill separately for the T&A and then bill NHS for the sinus part. Obviously you'd need a sinus CT first, and I have no idea how long that takes to schedule in the UK (here, it can be scheduled very quickly; I think we did ours the next day). -
T&A viable before sinus surgery?!
jan251 replied to Hitman3161's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
The question of whether to do the T&A in the presence of a sinus infection is a question for the ENT performing the T&A. The more important question is whether you can do both the T&A and sinus surgeries together, as that would be preferred, as I understand it. My kiddo had a T&A last spring and is now scheduled for sinus surgery with a new ENT. The new doc is surprised and annoyed that the old ENT did not scan the sinuses before doing the T&A, because it should have been done in one surgery . New doc felt he could tell just by looking at him that he was stuffed. However, he is not infected, just has abnormal tissue in the nose blocking drainage (fix deviated septum, turbinoidectomy, ethmoidectomy). I was surprised that he was surprised that this wasn't handled earlier.