Why some and not others?

[Jennifer]

Claire,

 

I posted some info for you under efgh's link under naturopathic visit...should have posted it under yours. Don't know if you saw it yet, but I mentioned that I would post a website re: MT disfunction, which directly affects the body's ability to detoxify mercury.

 

Here it is:

 

http://www.autisminfo.com/AmyHolmesMD.htm

 

I also came across an interesting article from Dr. Mercola and another mercury source that shows all the different areas of the body that can be affected by mercury. I'll dig those out too and try to post them as soon as possible.

To make a long story short it seems that mercury has a very bad effect on the body with everyone, just in different ways. Mercury can settle in so many places it can even settle in your bones. If it settled there the effects would not be quite as obvious as when it gets to the nervous system.

 

Some people don't show symptoms until they are much older such as cases of fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, M.S. etc.- whcih have also been linked to mercury and immunizations. It's unfortunate that our kids are dealing with this, but I think the silver lining is we know about this now that they are young and the chances of turning things around is awesome...a lot better than if they were adults.

 

 

Jennifer

[Claire]

Hi Jennifer,

 

No, I didn't see your other note, thanks a million for posting this new info and pointing me to your other post. I try hard not to miss any posts for this very reason, plus this truly is a great support network but things have been crazy. I hope that you in turn saw my thank you to you for initially raising this with us a while back.

 

I saved your post and will bring it to my doctor to see about the liver tests etc. (Plus Heather's and Chemar's comments on what they used).he It also made me feel better because my 65 year old neighbor has been trying for 2 years to get the mercury out of her system.

 

My son didn't do the DMSA test, just a blood test. He couldn't have any supplements for 4 days prior and fasted that day. Given your post on urine, I am not sure how it works with the blood.

 

Claire

[Guest Guest_Jennifer]

Claire,

 

Here is one of the links I have come across re: mercury toxicity. It is interesting to note the various places of the body where it can "hide".

 

http://www.neuraltherapy.com/a_mercury_detox.asp

 

Keep us posted on what the doctor says as you are so good in doing. Sharing our experiences and latest findings is an invaluable tool.

 

Jennifer

[Claire]

Jennifer/others.

 

Interesting link Jennifer posted on where mercury can reside. What do you think is the culprit hiding place for kids with neurological issue...the cranial nerve?

 

Also, this was on CNN.com today and shocked me...

 

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitnes...y.ap/index.html

 

CONSUMER LIST

 

Fish most likely to contain mercury:

 

Shark

Swordfish

King mackerel

Tilefish

 

Fish known to be LOW in mercury:

 

Shrimp

Canned light tuna !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Salmon

Pollock

Catfish

 

Now, I read that canned tuna wasn't as bad as the large tuna, but this seems contradictory to what we heard on tuna. And they say albacore is worse. FYI, my son never ate tuna (hates it), but I probably ate more of it than any protein. Our neighbor with mercury issues did a ton of research and there is an expensive brands "daves" at most nice stores in my area (definitely Whole Foods), with 1/100th the mercury level of average tuna--per FDA. They will fax you the research info from the FDA. Dave's says the older bigger tuna are the worse, as they have built up more mercury over the years. So they hand fish smaller tuna in the regions they live. I eat this now once a week.

 

The article says for pregnant, nursing women and small children (!) to avoid high mercury foods.

 

Claire

[Jennifer]

Claire,

 

Very interseting article. It still amazes me how they openly caution against mercury in fish, but the mercury in vaccines continues to be a contraversy!

 

Two years ago when we did our son's hair analysis he had toxic levels of mercury . He does not like fish and has probably eaten it 2 or 3 times in his life. I'm still convinced that his vaccines were the source, especially after his reaction to his last DTaP.

 

Jennifer

[Claire]

I am going to ask my son's doctor's re getting myself tested both for yeast and heavy metals. After this talk that the mother can pass it down, I am concerned. And as I mentioned, I had yeast symptoms at different times in my life. As I have said, I always feel much better on low-carb no sugar diets.

 

Does anyone else wonder about themselves, since we may have passed some of our mercury down?

 

I realize that the vaccines may be the cause for our kids, but we all had them also? If mercury is harder to get out when you are older (note my neighbor) I would want to know ASAP.

 

Claire

[Jennifer]

Claire,

 

I think one good thing we have on our side, is that even though we've been vaccinated we have not received near the number of vaccines as our children. My mom gave me my vaccine records and I probably had 10 shots as a child- today it is over 20 by the time they are done...more than doubled.

 

The highest mercury containing vaccine is the HepB which they are given at birth. Fortunatley they weren't doing that back when we were kids. I do, however, still wonder about my mercury levels...I'm considering getting myself tested as well.

We might as well all get well together.

 

Jennifer

[Heather]

I, too, worry about my mercury levels and have had various symptoms throughout my life that were always unexplained. What worries me most about myself is that I feel the mercury in me is not from vaccines but from my many fillings in my teeth. I now know a few people who have had their amalgams removed but it needs to be done by an experienced dentist so as to not cause a huge release of mercury into the bloodstream. Now that I have Will on track I am going to make an appointment for myself.

 

Heather

[Claire]

Jennifer,

 

I reread your post on mercury only flowing in the blood for 3 months and then binding. Does this mean that this was NEW mercury he was exposed to? Some high source, or maybe the normal source (fish--I realize he was eating fish and chips, but no chips) but he doesn't detox as well. I.e. this has nothing to do with what is residing in his system?

 

All,

 

I had a long talk with my neighbor today, who has mercury and yeast issues. She is incredible and has spend 2 years deeply researching this (she is retired) down to the chemistry and all the theories.

 

Anyway, 3 big things:

 

1. She says that the 2 big places mercury goes is the gut and the nervous system.

 

2. She said they did the DMSA with her to chelate the mercury (sorry if I misuse terms, I am new to mercury), and that put it right into her gut. She said that since her gut was messed up too, it couldn't 'pass through'. This method is 'approved'. Anyway she felt worse. and immediately got the white coated tongue associated with yeast.

 

She said there is another method (oh dear, DMPA??) where they do it via IV and it goes out the urine instead. Unfortunately this method is 'allowed' but not approved, so they are less inclined to do it for kids.

 

3. After 14 months of trying, she is finally feeling better with Donna Gate's diet method for yeast. http://www.bodyecologydiet.com/

 

That name is so familiar that I think someone here posted on it. Donna Gate said that to heal a leaky gut (from yeast I guess--this is 3rd hand info) drink a liquid diet for 3 days to heal the gut (lots of fermented foods), and instead of supplements to kill the yeast, instead eat lots of cultured foods, like cultured coconut water. I tried her sample and could barely choke it down though.

[Guest Jean]

Hi Claire,

 

FYI. I had questioned my naturopathic what's the difference between heavy metal blood test and hair analysis. She basically said the similar thing as you read from Jennifer's link, i.e., if you have recent expose to heavy metal, it usually test via blood. On the other hand, the hair analysis gives the heavy metal level in the body "as a whole" (sorry, don't know how to descript it) because after certain time period, the heavy metal will "bind" into skin and hair from blood.

[Chemar]

Hi Claire

I have 'The Body Ecology Diet' but found 'The yeast Syndrome' method, diet and recipes to be far better suited to my family.

[Guest Nancy]

Claire,

 

I found your comments about your neighbor's mercury elimination problems interesting. It struck me that you said when they tried to eliminate the mercury it went right to her gut and couldn't pass through.

 

I discussed using chlorella with the naprapath we see. If we get my son tested and his levels are high, I wondered if that was something good to try. She said along with drawing the mercury out of the places it settled, you have to make sure the body is able to excrete it properly, or it will just stay circulating in your body and continue to cause problems. (I'm not quoting directly, but I think that's the general I idea as I understood it) She said she uses homeopathic drops that support the liver, kidneys, etc., that need to get rid of the mercury. I know someone who uses this combination and has had good results.

 

At any rate, it struck me as a possible reason people may have trouble getting rid of mercury.

[Claire]

Jean,

That makes sense re the blood test. I know his doctor's intent was to test for more that just recent exposure though, so he must see more to this test than logic dictates, or perhaps it was a first step to more testing?

 

Chemar,

I just got the Yeast Syndrome book you recommended months ago in the mail, thanks. I know that the Body Ecology diet wasn't for me as a first step (I can't even get down yogurt, though my son can). It might be a last resort.

 

Jennifer, I got the Starving Brain book too. When will I ever have time to read these, argh!

 

Nancy,

That clinic and MT information are fascinating. FYI, my neighbor tried homeopathic drops that apparently had arsenic and they made her worse, and I know that Chemar used Chlorella successfully, but my neighbor said it was 'ineffective and hard to digest'. But my neighbor is in her 60's, so maybe this is why she had such problems. Chemar's official heavy metal tests showed that her combo of treatments really did work for her son. I mention this because what seems frustrating is that this mercury elimination is still in the 'experimental stage' to some degree, and that what works may be different for everyone. I am willing to trust my doctor with methods he found most successful (they said they treat a lot of kids for mercury), but I definitely want answers first to how my son is supposed to eliminate the mercury once it is 'released' or whatever it is called. I will tell you what he says.

 

Ronna,

I found out that my friend my age knew not to have tuna when pregnant. Why was I never informed? Your point about the contribution of parents is okay, but I don't blame myself. I used to think this was because I stimulated him too much as a baby--he had an unending need for stimulation in viewing/exploring new things and I bent over backwards to satisfy him. In some ways, I feel the opposite as you in blame, I feel this was beyond my control now. I am convinced now that his constant motion and difficulty sleeping was due to immunizations. (he hated naps as a baby and always took 2 hours to go to sleep and woke up every 1.5 hours through 8 months, then 2x a night until 5 or 6.

 

 

Claire

[Guest Jean]

Claire/Nancy,

 

Although my son's heavy metal hair analysis test showed no heavy metal, our naturopath said that he might still have some sort of toxic stuff in his body. She also gave my son some homeopathic drops (3 different kinds) to "open up" (that's the word that she used) his liver, kidneys as the first step. I'm afraid of saying this too early. It's been his 4th day to take the remedy along with the "good bacterial", but I've seen some progress already (i.e., his tics). I'll keep you all posted.

[Jennifer]

Claire,

 

I would definitely stay away from DMSA. It is much too hard on children and they are finding now that some children have had irriversible kidney damage because of it. The DMSA is quite agressive and if detox. pathways are not functioning right then as was mentioned before by Nancy, it recirculates and redeposits somewhere else.

 

We did the one time challenge test which, by the way, the doctor called me today to let me know that our son is high in lead and mercury. I haven't got a clue where the lead is coming from. One more thing to research. The mercury didn't surprise me in the least. It didn't show up in his last two hair elements tests, but it did in the challenge test. Which is also not surprising.

 

The most promising way of getting rid of mercury seems to be through MT promotion therapy. And I believe that any homeopathic remedies would help support the process. Here is the link http://www.autisminfo.com/AmyHolmesMD.htm

 

Jennifer