mercury

[janene]

Hi

 

I was wondering if anyone has had the issue with high levels of mercury causes the onset of tics.

[Chemar]

Hi Janene

yes, mercury is a known tic trigger and is the subject of many threads here on vaccinations and heavy metals etc

 

my son had somewhat high mercury and we used a supplement called chlorella to help remove it from his system

 

he has tourette syndrome altho I do believe the mercury contributed to his tics (likely from my teeth fillings leeching into him while pregnant as well as from the thimerisol he probably was exposed to in childhood vaccines) yet I know in his case many things worked together to cause his genetic predisposition to TS to manifest. we have a family history of tics, Tourette and OCD

[Andy]

My kid had high levels of mercury and other toxic metals in his body. We did chelation for quite some time but are currently taking a break to give the body a rest. Depending on how he does would determine if we ever do chelation again.

[janene]

Hi Janene

yes, mercury is a known tic trigger and is the subject of many threads here on vaccinations and heavy metals etc

 

my son had somewhat high mercury and we used a supplement called chlorella to help remove it from his system

 

he has tourette syndrome altho I do believe the mercury contributed to his tics (likely from my teeth fillings leeching into him while pregnant as well as from the thimerisol he probably was exposed to in childhood vaccines) yet I know in his case many things worked together to cause his genetic predisposition to TS to manifest. we have a family history of tics, Tourette and OCD

 

How did you find out that your son had a somewhat high mercury level?

[janene]

My kid had high levels of mercury and other toxic metals in his body. We did chelation for quite some time but are currently taking a break to give the body a rest. Depending on how he does would determine if we ever do chelation again.

 

How did you find out that your child had high levels of mercury?

[Chemar]

Hi Janene

 

we had hair analysis followed up with blood testsand radiogenics (transdermal) tests

[Andy]

My kid had high levels of mercury and other toxic metals in his body. We did chelation for quite some time but are currently taking a break to give the body a rest. Depending on how he does would determine if we ever do chelation again.

 

How did you find out that your child had high levels of mercury?

 

 

We did IV DMPS challenge urine test. The more treatments we did, the more stuff showed up until it was off the charts. I would not recommend nor sway anyone away from it. It is a serious matter that one has to weigh the pro's and con's before making a personal decision based upon their child's needs. There is alot of information on the matter on the Defeat Autism Now website. If you are going that direction, I would share information.

[kim]

Andy,

 

It's really nice to see you here again.

 

I didn't post anything, because I wanted to ask you a million questions and I'm off in too many directions as it is.

 

The most important thing, I would love to know how your son is doing!

 

The 2nd thing, I remember you commented once (I think) that your son ticced when he ate "anything." I could relate to that remark with my youngest son at the time. So, I'm wondering if you have been following the Hannah Poling case and the whole mito disorder topic?

 

On a different topic, I'm looking at MSM for a supplement right now, and I'm wondering if the sheer sulfur supplied during chelation is helping kids as much as moving metals?

[Andy]

Andy,

 

It's really nice to see you here again.

 

I didn't post anything, because I wanted to ask you a million questions and I'm off in too many directions as it is.

 

The most important thing, I would love to know how your son is doing!

 

The 2nd thing, I remember you commented once (I think) that your son ticced when he ate "anything." I could relate to that remark with my youngest son at the time. So, I'm wondering if you have been following the Hannah Poling case and the whole mito disorder topic?

 

On a different topic, I'm looking at MSM for a supplement right now, and I'm wondering if the sheer sulfur supplied during chelation is helping kids as much as moving metals?

 

 

Hi Kim, I have been lurking about here now and then and have answered a few private messages from people who looked me up. My son is doing pretty good. His strength levels are still increasing but he is still not up to his peer level but he has enough strength to play the field in Optimist Soccer for 1/2 the game. He still has low muscle tone and is on the small side and needs glasses which is why I was concerned about the mitochondrial disease, that you mentioned, for those are some signs of it and there is no cure. However, his gastrointestinal disorder has improved from years of treatments so we may get him tested in the future for mitochondrail disease to be on the safe side at his next doctor visit but I am not in a rush since the vitamins that we do give him seem to fit the prescribe therapy for that.

Coenzyme Q10

B Complex vitamins

Vitamin E

Selinium

L-Carnitine

Vitamin C

etc.

As for his tics as he eats, great memory Kim, he still does tic more when he eats but I would have to collect data on that informally to reassess the rate of frequency in an objective manner.

feel free to send me a private message for any questions that you may have. I will get back to you.

[kim]

That all sounds basically good Andy. A far cry from the original "diagnostic" advice you were given.

 

Andy, Carolyn has posted about her reduced food sensitivities since chelation. I'm wondering if you see any difference in that area during chelation as opposed to off times? Is detox the answer, in your opinion to that problem? I know you don't read all of the time, so if you don't respond I'll pm you. I know we have other sugar craver/limited eaters here, so I wanted to post this, so others could maybe benefit too. I'm sure you're going to say gut healing has helped, but I guess what I'm getting at is, do you think the sulfur properties of the chelating agent (I'm thinking largely of DMSO) helps in itself?

 

Now reading that back, I think I'm confusing DMSA and DMSO. Guess I better figure out what I'm talking about here

[Andy]

That all sounds basically good Andy. A far cry from the original "diagnostic" advice you were given.

 

Andy, Carolyn has posted about her reduced food sensitivities since chelation. I'm wondering if you see any difference in that area during chelation as opposed to off times? Is detox the answer, in your opinion to that problem? I know you don't read all of the time, so if you don't respond I'll pm you. I know we have other sugar craver/limited eaters here, so I wanted to post this, so others could maybe benefit too. I'm sure you're going to say gut healing has helped, but I guess what I'm getting at is, do you think the sulfur properties of the chelating agent (I'm thinking largely of DMSO) helps in itself?

 

Now reading that back, I think I'm confusing DMSA and DMSO. Guess I better figure out what I'm talking about here

 

DMSA is a sulfer drug if I am recalling correctly and the sulfer is used to pull out , chelate, the heavy metals from the body. However, I understand your question, since epsom salt is also a sulfer agent, if I am remembering correctly, would that be a safer sulfer agent to get into the body if the body is craving sulfer be it to clean itself out of balance an inbalance,

What I can say is like Carolyn, my oldest son's delayed food allergies seem to have decreased since the last two tests we gave him only eggs which is new came up. However, we have found that anything with gluten and the other sensitivities that were on the high end he can not handle. The reactions are not bad, a few hours to a few days vs a few weeks to months, with just observing reactions to the food but lactose free milk he seems to be handling on a rotation diet. We feel that the chelation help repaired his insides by taking out heavy metals but it is still weak and may take years to fully heal. I am thinking of starting enzymes this summer for I have read that the proper enzymes can help heal the gut and we are debating oxygen tanks(tents) to enrich his blood with oxygen to help heal. Right now he is playing soccer so he is pumping more oxygen into his body and well as releasing stress which is a great thing. For those who are reading this and may not know, my son is doing great from where he was with years of treatments. Most of them we did before DAN doctors broke onto the scene in popularity and some with a DAN doctor. Currently he is not chelating and not doing as well as he did while chelating with either DMSA or DMPS but he needs a break and if he continues to do as he is now with his tic frequency, I will not ask him if he wants to go back to the procedures we were doing. We felt we had to go extreme with the IV chelations when he was younger for the tics were extreme at that time.

[kim]

Andy,

 

DMSA is a sulfer drug if I am recalling correctly and the sulfer is used to pull out , chelate, the heavy metals from the body. However, I understand your question, since epsom salt is also a sulfer agent, if I am remembering correctly, would that be a safer sulfer agent to get into the body if the body is craving sulfer be it to clean itself out of balance an inbalance

Thanks for the response.

 

For the life of me, I can't find the article that I copied this from, but epsom salts probably wouldn't be enough.

 

Waring has reported that children with autism:

Excrete 2x normal amount of sulfate in urine

Have 1/5 normal amount of sulfate in blood

Lack of sulfate would decrease ability to excrete heavy metals

Treatment Note: in one child with ASD, we measured very low levels of plasma sulfate (1/10 normal), and high urinary sulfate; epsom salt baths had no effect, but 1300 mg of MSM raised sulfate to 1/2 normal

[Andy]

Andy,

 

DMSA is a sulfer drug if I am recalling correctly and the sulfer is used to pull out , chelate, the heavy metals from the body. However, I understand your question, since epsom salt is also a sulfer agent, if I am remembering correctly, would that be a safer sulfer agent to get into the body if the body is craving sulfer be it to clean itself out of balance an inbalance

Thanks for the response.

 

For the life of me, I can't find the article that I copied this from, but epsom salts probably wouldn't be enough.

 

Waring has reported that children with autism:

Excrete 2x normal amount of sulfate in urine

Have 1/5 normal amount of sulfate in blood

Lack of sulfate would decrease ability to excrete heavy metals

Treatment Note: in one child with ASD, we measured very low levels of plasma sulfate (1/10 normal), and high urinary sulfate; epsom salt baths had no effect, but 1300 mg of MSM raised sulfate to 1/2 normal

 

I agree that epsom salt baths is not enough which is why we did so much DMSA/DMPS chleation for over three years. We are not doing the epsom salt baths but rather continuing the high protein diet but I am interested in your knowledge of MSM. For sulfer is good for the body even if it is not mentioned that often in modern times all one has to do is look at history and the sulfer baths that were used for healing in the past.