ssfkat Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Every time my daughter gets a fever for any reason, or has a cold, her behavior improves. She is calmer and more agreeable and her tantrums decrease noticeably. She is not currently on any meds, as we are still working with the dr. to try to get testing done, etc. What would cause improvement in behavior?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel12 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Every time my daughter gets a fever for any reason, or has a cold, her behavior improves. She is calmer and more agreeable and her tantrums decrease noticeably. She is not currently on any meds, as we are still working with the dr. to try to get testing done, etc. What would cause improvement in behavior?? I have noticed the same thing with myself. It feels as if it puts a stopperr on the activation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) We observed this reaction to fever, but not necessarily to a cold. DD13 also reacted to fever with a decrease in Asperger's and Tourette's symptoms as well as a decrease in the physical pain caused by bartonella (especially shin pain and headache). I remember one day when she stayed home from school with a fever (she rarely has fevers), she was feeling so good that we went for a bike ride. She said she noticed a significant decrease in pain and that her ticcing that day was minimal. My thought is that perhaps, just for the time that the fever is being produced, the immune system is acting in a more normal fashion. Just get ready for a flare of behaviour/symptoms after the fever has resolved - fever will cause a die-off (herx) reaction as bacteria are lysed and endo/exotoxins are released. Edited November 9, 2014 by rowingmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssfkat Posted November 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 And if we are dealing with an infection in the brain, doesn't fever fight infection? Bumping for more responses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911RN Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My answer is more autoimmune in nature. If these kids have autoimmune repsonse that is constantly attacking brain (remember it is the antibodies causing the problem NOT the actual infection in PANDAS/PANS etc) then in the presense of infection/fever then the body is concentrating more on that issue. The immune system is busy working elsewhere rather than attacking itself. In other words, immune system is "distracted" and has something "to do" rather than just being overactive and concentrating on itself with an over abundance of antibodies in the basal ganglia. Right, wrong? I have no idea but that is my 10 cent version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msimon3 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 We see the same thing. It is very interesting. Symptoms invariably decrease when ill and not just with a cold. No idea why but it is very consistent for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 And if we are dealing with an infection in the brain, doesn't fever fight infection? Bumping for more responses... Fever is the body's response to infection. It is one of the ways the body decreases bacterial/viral loads. Many of the children here seem to have poor fever response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 My kiddo, of course, has to be odd man out here. She is much worse with a fever than without. Any infection has caused a tail spin here in the past. Usually fever brings out vocal and some motor tics, plus short patience and increase likelihood of "upsets." However, we just got over a short bout with a fever of 100.5 with no other medical symptoms, and she did not have + or - behavioural reactions to it. That is another notable improvement for her in my book. She was just extra tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) Nice mayzoo. DD made it through a fall flu that was going around when children in our area were being affected by EV-D68. Not sure what it was but she actually developed a nice fever for a day. She was tired and slept a fair bit, but was fine by the next day. She had no symptom flare either during the fever or after. I take this as another indication that her immune system is finally working more normally. Edited November 9, 2014 by rowingmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr40 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 syphilis patients in later stages when brain was impacted had the same reaction. you can do a google search on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 It looks like there is some research being done on this. Not sure if it was posted here already or not. If you do a search, I think this was looked at as an anti inflammatory too. Maybe for COPD? Since I follow a lot of the vaccine news where Jenny McCarthy is regularly trashed, I couldn't help but wonder if Johns Hopkins and Harvard hospitals were being influenced by Hollywood nitwits like the rest of us are regularly accused of http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2014/10/13/broccoli-sprout-extract-may-help-curb-autism-symptoms/ Broccoli Sprout Extract May Help Curb Autism Symptoms Talalay said the way in which this extract might work in autistic patients has yet to be fully understood, but past research suggests that sulforaphane can cause the body to react as it would to a fever. Since fevers have been associated with a temporary improvement of symptoms in about a third of autism patients, sulforaphane may work in a similar way, according to the study authors. The findings appear in the October issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf_mom Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Fever therapies have been used for a very long time to treat infection. http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/therapeuticbaths.htm Over a year ago when our younger son had the flu with persistent fever our LLMD encourage me to wait it out (with close supervision and a reduction in antibiotics) for this very reason. It took over 5 days for our son's fever to break but he had marked improvement in his Lyme system after that point. Both Lyme and Bartonella have 'difficulties' surviving at temperatures above 102. Lyme dies at a core body temperature of 106. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssfkat Posted November 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 All very interesting...In some respects, I'm glad there's a connection -- it shows we're on the right track in finding the needle in the haystack with what the problem is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qannie47 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Interesting. My pandas son never ran a fever until after ivig. A sign to me as well that his immune system is working properly...now, I do not rush to lower a fever until it is over 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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