Shakes

[petb]

Hi

 

I just got supplements for my son. He is 6. Some of them he doen't like the taste of. I see some of you make a shake. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can add the supplements to becides juice.

There are 2 pills that he can't swallow so i have to open them up and add them to something.

 

Thanks,

Brenda

[Chemar]

Hi

 

applesauce is good, as is yoghurt, tapioca, jello, Boost etc

Also, if he likes plain honey that works well too.

[petb]

have you ever added supplements to baking? my concern is the tyrosine & taurine I added. he can't swallow them. so i opened them and added it to a protein shake and it was awful. so i thought if i bake muffins and add it to them the he wouldn't taste it. but i'm not sure if i can do that.

also i added evening primrose and that was horrible too,

 

i was so excited it found help on what my son needs and he can't swallow them.

 

i found yogurt he could eat and he didn't like it. it's hard for him. he is doing so much to help himself i hate to torture him with this.

 

tomorrow morning i will try to add it to his oatmeal.

 

thanks

feeling desperate...

[Chemar]

have you tried getting him to take the supps by swallowing them along with liquid thru a straw.

 

for younger kids who have problems swallowing pills and capsules, having the liquid thru a straw seems to really help them get them down.

 

I REALLY wouldnt recommend baking them. Heating could set off chemical changes and have unwanted effects

 

because honey has such a strong taste it is good. Also if he likes applesauce you could even combine some honey into it

[kim]

petb,

 

In reading your post, the tyrosine jumped out at me. Turns out, I was confusing it with tyramine, but in figuring that out, I'm still a little curious where you got the idea to supplement with tyrosine?

 

Since it appears that it is needed to make norepinephrine and dopamine, I'm wondering if this would be a good supplement for TS symptoms.

 

If you are doing this based on a known deficiency or Physicians recommendation, please forgive my questioning this. I have absoulutly no knowledge of this supplement, other than what I read here.

 

These are some excerpts from the sites I was reading from.

 

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Tyrosinecs.html

 

tyrosine is needed to make epinephrine, norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine, all of which work to regulate mood.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrosine

 

Tyrosine (from the Greek tyros, meaning cheese, as it was first discovered in cheese[citation needed]),

 

http://www.bonniegr.com/Interview%20with%20Bonnie.htm

 

7. Are there any foods that people with TS should try to avoid?

 

A. I suggest that allergens/sensitivities by removed as much as possible from the environment. This includes food and airborne allergens as well. A single elimination diet is the best way in my opinion to identify food sensitivities. In general, foods and food additives to be avoided in TS if found to be increasing symptoms are: azo dyes (such as red dye# 40), aspartame, caffeine, and tyramine (such as chocolate in large quantities, aged cheese, soy sauce, red wine, raisins, canned fish (canned tuna or salmon are fine and don't contain tyramine), pickled herring, chicken livers, cured meats, and most alcoholic beverages).

 

 

The hypothetical role of tyramine in TS is another one of my interpretations: If there is excess tyramine in TS by ingesting tyramine containing foods and from inhibited monoamine oxidase activity (through the actions of certain drugs or nutritional deficiencies), stores of norepinephrine, which have been found to be already increased in TS in studies, can be released in the body possibly leading to increased symptoms. Tyramine containing foods should never be taken with MAOI (monoamine oxidase inhibitor) drugs because a serious hypertensive crisis could develop.

 

High phenylalanine in the diet can block other "Large Neutral Amino Acids", such as valine, leucine, isoleucine, tryptophan, tyrosine, histidine, and methionine from entering the brain. Notice that tryptophan is on this list, which is the precursor for serotonin, a neurotransmitter necessary for the feeling of calm. Phenylalanine is also a precursor for dopamine and may cause problems in TS where certain dopamine receptors may be supersensitive.

 

I'm confused

 

Edit: I guess these are pretty connected:

 

Proteins & Amino Acids - Tyrosine The route of formation of the catecholamines is through change of tyrosine into tyramine, and the subsequent conversion to dopa. This compound is effective ...

www.springboard4health.com/notebook/proteins_tyrosine.html

[Chemar]

that is well spotted Kim

 

yes, Bonnie has a lot of important info re which amino acids may not be a good idea for TS!

 

again, i think individual reaction on this is important and one should ALWAYS be careful when supplementing with any amino acid as they have extremely powerful effects on neurological functioning

 

 

my son could cope with D phenylalanine (short term, for endorphin release, when he was having an injurious type of tic/OCD)

However, any supplement that increases dopamine should be noted to have a potential for increasing tics