Pain as a tic trigger

[Irena]

I have noticed a new tic in my son, never seen before: someting like a shrug of a whole arm, rather mild, but it is there. From what I can see it is only his left arm. A few days ago he burnt his left hand thumb, quite badly. It hurt very much. And since then I've been observing this new tic.

 

There are other reasons for him to tic more (anti-yeast treatment and B12 injections) so I am not sure if this is caused by burning. I have never seen pain listed as a tic trigger. Of course, stress is. But can his body still be stressed because of this (it happened on Saturday - he touched an iron).

 

Has anyone noticed something like that before?

 

I am concerned because for a very long time his tics have been limited to face and head only .

 

Irena

[kim]

Irena,

 

I can relate to what you're asking, but the circumstances are a little different.

I have positively noticed this in the boys, not with an injury, but pain or irritation. The first time was with the dry lips. It would progress into a full lip licking ring around their whole mouth, and then into a mouth stretching tic. I've learned to keep TONS of lip moisturizers on hand. Same thing with older son's head shaking. I told the NP this last week, if there's one thing that I've learned about tics...it's that you have to stay ahead of the pain. Once the cycle starts, it harder to stop.

 

I posted once, a while ago, about using Morton for headaches associated with headshaking. When I backed off nagging about not using Morton for the head aches, the tic got better. This (the backing off) was out of desperation. Natural remedies and now the Chiropractor make me much more comfortable.

 

However, last winter when younger son got dumped on his head on the ice, got a big goose egg, it didn't cause any tics. Will be interesting to see if the arm shrug improves as the burn heals. Does your son think it's related? My oldest will say, "I'm shaking my head, because my head aches."

 

 

Kim

[Irena]

you have to stay ahead of the pain. Once the cycle starts, it harder to stop.

Hi, Kim!

 

I'm not sure whether I understood correctly what you meant. But if I have (that we have to try to avoid pain), it only makes me more confident in my desicion to skip the last B12 injection. As I've already written they are VERY painful. We have just one left (he has already had 9) and I don't want him to go through it again any more.

 

This Monday Lee Silsby will send us MB12 and even if they sting (I do hope they will not) this will be nothing comparing to "normal" B12.

 

I'm writing about injections because his thumb is fine, but his tics are still getting worse. I don't know why, although there may be many reasons:

those B12 injections,

candida treatment (in fact, we have finished one month course of Fluconazole, antifungal drug - plus activated charcoal, Epsom salt baths, a lot of Vit C, so I think the worst is gone - we are staying on Candida Clear)

No glutathione for over a month; we stopped Bonnie's vits and have them now separately according to his specific needs showed in his Organix (OAT). Transdermal glutathione will arrive next week.

Increased doses of folinic acid (400 mcg in multi and additional 800 mcg)

 

I read that B12 boosts energy and it can be observed immediately with B12 injections (not MB12, although it may be the same - dr Neubrander says there is some worsening of symptoms to excpect, clearing within 2-6 months!). Can this increased energy be in form of increased tics?

 

By the way, there is a very usefull Solgar's web site about all supplements, together with their counteraction with meds. I use it quite often: http://www.solgar.co.uk/healthnotes/health...ntentID=2461007

[Chemar]

Hi Irena

 

I would agree thatwhen my son experiences a painful stimulus, he tends to tic more. I think it is more the stress than the pain per se

 

re B12.......we use it in supplement form, and also have the rapid release sublingual tabs that quickly dissolve under the tongue and so give a burst of B12 when needed. Sounds better than painful injections eh!