Braces

[Guest]

Hi Everyone,

 

I have a question on braces. Has anyone had experience with braces & tics? Did they increase tics? Did they not make tics worse?

 

Chemar-I know I've seen you post about your son's doctor saying not to do braces. What is the reason for that? Is it the metals or something else? If its the metals did he say there are any non-metal options?

 

Carolyn

[kim]

Carolyn.

 

My 13 year old has had braces for the last 3 years. I have not seen any correlation to tic increase. He has lost a silver cap on one of is molars about 3 times and I'm always afraid of the sealant, but so far, haven't ever noticed any flairs with the addition of a metal appliance or a sealant. He, like Cheri's son will have a hard time with metal forks, metal on the end of pens or pencils as he feels compelled to bite them sometimes.

 

There was a thread on braces on the autism bd. here that was full of info on this. I just looked at that forum, and it looks totally different, only two pages, and none of the people that I remember from there. Anyway, they talked about the metal being comprised of nickel and most didn't seem to think that they leached metals from what I remember.

 

Hey, I wanted to tell you that there have been about 4 posts in the last couple of days about black specks on autism/enzyme and ASD solutions. Most said yeast die off, one said it looked like pepper sprinkles, and she was always glad to see this as she knew the yeast treatments were working. One person posted about blood in the intestine causing little dark specks? Three out of 4 related it to die off anyway.

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-...e+Search....wow a google of autism+dangers of mouth metals+braces. This should give you some information

 

kim

[Chemar]

Hi Carolyn

 

yes, my son has a major problem with metal in his mouth being a big tic trigger.

 

There are non-metallic braces available now, but, just as our doc said, my son's teeth actually grew out perfectly, without the need for orthodontics. Our doc really feels that most people rush into orthodontics far too quickly!

 

I should also point out that ANY dental work is problematic for my son...been that way since he was tiny. Something about it just sets his tics off big time, and he thankfully hasnt needed much of it, other than checkups. He doesnt even have pro cleaning done because of this. We take him to a pediatric dentist who is specialised in working on kids with TS or other specialised needs.

[Sydsmom]

Sydnie has had braces since Sept. and I haven't noticed an increase in tics. Still the same. She does have the clear on top but theres still metal in her mouth. Her teeth were so bad and she was getting made fun of for both her teeth and her tics that we went ahead with the braces once all of her adult teeth were in. Her big triggers are chlorine and crowds. Last night she came to the adult church service with me and the music was loud and lots of people and she started to tic bad and meltdown.

 

Kim - what's the autism site you go to? Thanks.

 

Lisa

[kim]

asd_solutions@yahoogroups.com

 

enzymesandautism@yahoogroups.com

 

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

 

 

Lisa,

 

The first two are groups that the messages are just delivered to my email everyday, and there are usually a ton of posts, so be prepared, if you set it up that way, to read or delete a lot of emails. There are so many supplements discussed btwn these two groups, that I find it really useful. Teresa Binstock posts the majority of the articles, that I post here. She is an adult Aspergers with a PhD (autism researcher) and is mentioned quite a few times in Evidence of Harm. Some really amazing people in these groups.

 

They might start discussing say, 5HTP, and you may get 5 or 6 people reporting what results they got with it, good, bad, or nothing. Probiotics, children with limited diets, tics, anxiety meltdowns, rage.... so many things. Some have wonderful DAN Dr.s and some are just working slowly on their own.

 

Recently there was a virus started on the ASD bd. If you join the group, you may want to mention that you are from a tic/ts bd. and Kim with the two boys with tics, recommended the site. Karen (moderator) has indicated that she is going to screen new members more carefully, and ask that people pass the word for a "connection," for new people wishing to join. I don't post there often, but just mentioning the tic connection and ts bd. would probably be good.

 

Kim

[Sydsmom]

Thanks Kim!!

[Guest]

Thanks Everyone for all the replies on braces. For now I will be sticking to no braces. I don't feel it would be safe to have braces while chelating. On the chelation board everybody seemed to have different thoughts on it. Some say their children are chelating with metal braces on and see no problems, while others are waiting until their done chelating. I was informed that even the non-metallic braces still contain some metals.

 

 

Kim-thanks for the info on the specs. When I asked on the chelating kids & Autism Mercury board before some also said yeast and some said Arsenic. Hopefully I'll have an answer by the end of March. When I call to get them to send me a copy of my test results I'll check and see if they got any results back from the specs. I'll let you know when I find anything more out about them.

 

Carolyn