A.R.T. docs and claims/results

[sptcmom]

Hi All

 

There are numerous ART docs in the country. There is one doc being very heavily promoted by several moms on this forum. A wonderful, talented, brilliant doc who is a one stop shop for conventional meds and ART. He gets results, takes insurance, and is almost perfect in every way. This is all accurate information.

 

But there are several other EXACTLY similar ART docs around the country.There are numerous A.R.T. docs who are also MDs, DOs, Chiropractors who WILL take insurance in the north east, in Pennsylvania, Texas, Washington State etc etc. I have posted this before. A little research can be very rewarding in terms of overall benefit for the family. I understand that word of mouth is powerful and so be it but I had to post this for those parents struggling financially. Its very easy to be swayed when we hear lyme and co have been eradicated by any doc.

 

That is another area of caution I would like to post is that eradication in months is not possible. This comes from the very creator of ART, Dr Klinghardt. With accurate herbal tinctures it is possible to keep things dormant for a bit but without correcting the internal biochemical and physiological changes in the body, its not possible to keep those suckers at bay.

Antibiotics will inhibit the growth, herbals can kill but without one's own immune system awake and running normal there is NEVER a cure without own immune system entrainment. Period. It doesn't matter how many rounds of tindamax are prescribed because its now in the cyst form etc.

This stuff will mostly all come back in a few years time for those who believe lyme and co is gone in a few months.

I have seen numerous cases, one can just go on Lymenet and see how many young adults are struggling with reappearance of symptoms.

I have two young adults amongst many others who stand out, both in Ivy league schools unwilling to go back. They are embarrased by brain fog, memory issues, aches and pains that have returned after TWO years of being told its been eradicated since ART and regular bloodtests came back negative.

 

ART is energetic muscle testing. SO many factors matter during testing. Does the child have the herbs/meds in her body during the test or not, hydration status, EMFs in the room, etc.

Please read up a bit on energetic testing. The goal is to get your own immune system to help you keep the bacteria in check. All holistic testing and treatment is of the same philosophy. Immune re-education and entrainment is KEY to recovery.

It takes years not months unfortunately. NOT the years a child has already been sick but from the point of recovery.

That is why SO many people are going to Germany to try Immune therapies, Biophoton remedies to help with a lasting cure.Numerous posts on Lymenet.

 

It is very very common to have an initial reduction in bacterial/microbial load once the accurate herbs and meds have been given to anybody, adult or child. It is very common to see many major symtoms resolve right away. That simply means you have finally hit upon the right combination of herbs and abx. It is not a cure. Ive been thru that myself and all my patients do too. The feel good lasts for about 3 to 4 months. When we switch the abx or Herbs that goes away but its then time to address other issues.

Please never ever should you abandon detox and drainage for your child.

Please remember just because all the symptoms in your child are under control doesn't mean the diseases are "cured". Here is the vicious cycle I have seen so many times and anyone of you can read on Lymenet too.Many meds, herbs will bring about a symptom control - to see a child symtom shedding is a God send - this happens when the accurate combination of abx plus herbs is hit upon and only ART can help with such accuracy. Tindamax etc is given to address cyst form etc so everybody is happy that everything has been addressed.

But what about the internal organ system havoc wreaked by the bacteria?

What about the out of whack immune system?

I speak from personal experience only. It blows my mind how parents can believe being symtom free equals being disease free.

I would request all parents to please inform themselves instead of jumping on the bandwagon. I've heard of parents selling their homes to travel to these docs being so heavily promoted here.Its sad to see this when there are so many options available. Most top ART docs are in the north east and washington state. Florida, Pennsylvania and Long Island , NY , Flemington NJ have the top rated ART docs, Klinghardt himself talks about them regularly. Please call Debbie at Klinghardt Academy (www.klinghardtacademy.com) for more info. Please look at your choices before you refinance, sell your house etc.

Again with all due respect to all experiencing success with ART, all those amazing parents who have tried everything and everybody andfinally hit upon the right combination of everything.Just please go in informed and keep reading up on newer methods and on other Lyme forums too.

Edited September 11, 2011 by sptcmom

[LNN]

Thanks for the thoughts. It does mirror our own experiences in terms of 3-4 months of improvement followed by relapse. We are now addressing KPU and seeing a more self-directed healing. But I'm curious about ART saying something is gone and yet having a relapse anyway. I ask with complete respect for ART - just don't understand it well enough to be able to see how it could say something is gone yet still be at risk for relapse. I do understand how so many variables enter the picture - the health of the ART practitioner, the environment of the testing area, etc. But if so many variables influence the outcome, how can you rely on ART results? Especially if ART says you're healed? Would you still continue to treat for a certain period afterward to prevent relapse or is the chance of relapse just to be expected?

 

I would love to do more research as you recommend. But it's extremely hard to find information aside from Klinghardt Academy. And as much as I've learned from Dr K videos and written summaries from Better Health Guy and survivingmold.com, it's been very hard to find info on detox and metals that's thorough or comprehensive. That takes the discussion from a general FYI sort of level to a practical, here's what you do level. I find forums like lymenet helpful in terms of giving me ideas, but very shallow in terms of exploring that idea. The one thing that has always impressed my about this forum is that so many people give you links that you can sink your teeth into.

 

Do you know of any books, links, or sources of in depth/accurate discussion on these subjects, particularly detox and drainage? My LLMD is integrative and does ART and has been very helpful. But when you only see someone once every two months and symptoms crop up in between visits, it's hard to know what to do other than rely on the suggestions of others in the same boat as you. It gets further complicated when you're dealing with kids, especially ones who would balk at any of the stronger smelling/tasting tinctures. I need to work within their limits, as they're already doing so much of what I ask of them. I would love to learn more but need something beyond forum discussion. Any suggestions?

[JuliaFaith]

Your points made are very interesting and scary at the same time. This whole journey has been like that I suppose. I do appreciate hearing your feedback on all of this.

 

One question that came to mind is "how do we know when the immune system is doing what it should be doing?" If we cannot tell by symptoms because they may have disappeared, and most testing is not that great or accurate, then what?

 

Also, are you also saying that most people on this forum have problems with detoxing? Whether genectically or otherwise, and therefore, should continue detoxing their entire lives?

 

Ideas would be welcomed. Thank you.

 

Julia

Edited September 11, 2011 by JuliaFaith

[MichaelTampa]

But I'm curious about ART saying something is gone and yet having a relapse anyway. I ask with complete respect for ART - just don't understand it well enough to be able to see how it could say something is gone yet still be at risk for relapse.

 

My understanding, at least, would be that ART would never really say that something is gone or that someone is cured. It may pick up that a certain bug is or is not at the heart of a current disregulation in energy flow, it may pick up that a certain substance would or would not help that situation. A skilled ART practitioner should be able to do that well enough most of the time.

 

An example from my situation. A few months ago I reached the point where it appeared that abx were no longer helpful. I was hoping this meant that I had the bugs under control. After 1 month of being off them, I was starting to feel pretty well, and I would not have been surprised if labwork said I was healthy. After being off abx for a couple months, bloodwork and symptoms were showing that this was not the case. I still energy test that abx is not the way to go, but over time we found some supplements that are being helpful, at least a little bit. I went to two new docs looking for treatments--one does neural therapy and one does ozone therapy. One uses labwork to diagnose issues, the other uses ART. As the order turned out, I went to the labwork guy first, the ART guy second. The ART guy diagnosed Epstein Barr virus was a priority to treat and gave me some things to get started. The labwork guy's blood results eventually came back, and showed problems with Epstein Barr and a couple other well-known viruses, so well-known I have to believe the ART guy tested for these as well, but they didn't come up. So, those things were around, and I was making some antibodies for them, but they didn't come up with ART testing. They were not wreaking havoc at that time like Epstein Barr was. Now, if we treat Epstein Barr in a way that doesn't treat the other ones, there is certainly a chance one day the other ones will be an issue, particularly if we can't get my immune system and hormones and all that important stuff functioning properly.

[LNN]

Michael,

Thanks for your perspective. That makes it a little clearer. I hope your recovery is progressing well. Did you go back to work today?

[sptcmom]

Michael explains really well. In energetic testing any substance blocking the energy (healing, biophoton, "the field") pathways are identified. Energy pathways are where the body stores information to heal and stay in harmony with the environment. Various biotoxins block this communication plus information network and the body is unable to heal itself or even figure out how to successfully utilize the external help being given in the form of abx, supplements etc.

Thats is what an ART practitioner reads when he does the muscle test.

Yes, there are ways a practitioner can prioritize, locate, hone in, do a multilevel scan and several other possibilities like is there direct resonance meaning is the substance already in the body is that why the test is what it is- very hard to understand without a working knowledge of Quantum physics and the bioluminosity works of Dr Fritz A. Popp.

In brief, the higher level of ART a practitioner has attained, the more refined his/her technique. There are levels 1 to 3 and a level 4 is being worked on by Dr Klinghardt for next year I believe. For my level-3 class there were only about 100 or so practitioners from across North America. There are numerous finer points that a higher level certified/trained clinician can work on and interpret.

All clinicians are expected and trained to practice personal emotional and medical hygiene which includes the configuration of office space, assisstants etc. For example my clinic is triple grounded, earthing set up, no EMFs, no mold,no chemicals, no allergens, brilliant light, natural light, natural ventilation etc- you get the picture.

 

Also, Laura, a skilled practitioner trains his body to be one of a healer inspite of personal struggles. Deeper states of meditation allow us to resonate our Lyme etc on different frequencies than a patients. An ART session is usually a couple hours long, is gruelling and exhausting for the clinician and the patient- which is a good thing and it means that the doctor was able to successfully intersect his biophoton field with the patients and has started the healing process.

It is also imp for the doc to take a 15 minute break immediately after the end of a session/evaluation and use Thought Field Therapy techniques in privacy of his office to disengage from the patient mentally and energetically. Which is what I do and then am able to hydrate myself and sit down for an after session consult with my patient.

 

Its quite the process. Its literally an art form and needs to be practised not as a quick office visit but take time and genuinely evaluate a patient diligently. Choosing a practitioner is a crucial step. Don't be afriad to switch practitioners to find a good match. Unfortunately insurance issues rule most decisions even though ART docs cost WAAAAAAAY less than some of the superstar LLMDs and usually the only bloodwork needed is a good old CBC ESR, Lipid panel and metabolic panel.

Edited September 12, 2011 by sptcmom

[sptcmom]

Your points made are very interesting and scary at the same time. This whole journey has been like that I suppose. I do appreciate hearing your feedback on all of this.

 

One question that came to mind is "how do we know when the immune system is doing what it should be doing?" If we cannot tell by symptoms because they may have disappeared, and most testing is not that great or accurate, then what?

 

Also, are you also saying that most people on this forum have problems with detoxing? Whether genectically or otherwise, and therefore, should continue detoxing their entire lives?

 

Ideas would be welcomed. Thank you.

 

Julia

No, all Im saying is please keep up the Detox as long as you are being treated.

When your body can hold its own for a good 4 to 6 months off everything except the positive lifestyle changes you made during this journey. Thats usually my yardstick after I finish immune regulation or entrainment therapy as a last step with a patient.The last step may take 6 months or more in itself. ART is used for consistent monitoring.

And again please, just sharing my learning.

Edited September 12, 2011 by sptcmom

[JuliaFaith]

Sptcmom--Thank you. Really appreciate your contributions to this forum!

Edited September 12, 2011 by JuliaFaith

[MichaelTampa]

Michael,

Thanks for your perspective. That makes it a little clearer. I hope your recovery is progressing well. Did you go back to work today?

 

Yes, I was back to work today. I really did need the day of the procedure and the two full days following the procedure as recovery. There was disrupted sleep and headaches and extra naps needed and sore groin from where they inserted the equipment and lots and lots of itching for that time. But after that, it has been all good, some notable improvements. Things still settling in and fluctuating a little. Plan to give a 1-week update in a couple days, hope to have a better sense of where things are after that.

[sptcmom]

Sptcmom--Thank you. Really appreciate your contributions to this forum!

Thanks so much. I appreciate your input as well. Your experiences and advice have been very valuable and crucial in my search for mold issues in our family. All the work and research you've put into it is amazing.