Supplements

[LNN]

I'm between LLMD appts and reviewing the cupboard to see what we're low on. I got to wondering, as I stood awestruck at how many pills I ask my kids to pop each day, just how "essential" each one is to their recovery. I know Milk Thistle has made a significant difference - saw changes immediately - and I started taking it myself - and I can tell when I've skipped a day or two. On the other hand, we dropped ALA in favor of glutathione because DS didn't think the ALA did all that much. So I'm asking for opinions...

 

With the goal of minimizing the number of daily pills - including abx - and of keeping costs as reasonable as possible, what supplements do you consider "essential", "helpful but not essential", or "not sure it does much". With 5-7 abx pills in the mix, my goal is to use no more than 5-6 additional pills per day. Here's my list:

 

Essential:

1. probiotics (using 1 Theralac 30 Bill CFUs with 1 TruFlora for yeast 2x/week)

2. multivitamin (alternate between Juice+ and generic multi)

3. milk thistle

4/ Trufiber and/or miralax (for drainage - my kids don't eat well enough to keep the pipes moving frequently enough for detox purposes)

 

Helpful but...:

1. Glutathione (try to take on empty stomach but not always possible on busy school mornings)

2. Motrin (use when Pandas-like stuff impacts the family)

3. Quercetin (mostly for temp. allergy relief, not for lyme or Pandas per se - find motrin more effective for inflammation behaviors)

 

Not sure it does much:

1. Tumeric

2. ALA (switched to glutathione)

3. Activated Charcoal - probably not effective b/c only giving 3-4 pills but can't see asking him to swallow more every day, and liquid clay isn't an option - no way it's getting swallowed.

4. Fish oil

 

Your opinions? Please feel free to add homeopathics, naturals etc, but if it's a liquid, please let me know. Pills are far easier to get into my kids than something they can taste. I'm shooting for practical and affordable, biggest bang for the buck.

Edited May 20, 2011 by LLM

[lismom]

Essential - Acetyl-Carnitine - helps with motor tic and the SAMe

SAMe - depression and detox

Trans Factor - immune

Biotin and B2,B5

Chorella - detox,immune - a specific brand

Magnesium

Quercitin - allergies, inflammation and detox

Probiotics - just switched to VLS3(225 billion per cap twice a day)

5HTP

zinc

Edited May 21, 2011 by lismom

[sf_mom]

Essential:

 

* Detox: Bentonite clay plus anything our LLMD rotates into protocol: BurBur, Mondipur, Clarity K Detox 'Drops'

* Probiotic includes prebiotic for yeast and anti-fungals 'Pills or powder mixed in Kefir/Juice'

* HD - Methylcobalamin Vitamin B-12 for Mood, Nerve Damage 'Chewable'

* Herbal remedies for specific chronic infections: Babesia (Enula, Cryptoplus, Bab -1), Bartonella (A-Bart, Bar-1), Lyme (Samento, Cumanda) 'Drops'

* Anti-Viral: SyImmune Tablets 'Chewable', Immunoviro by Beyond Balance 'Drops', Olive Leaf Extract 'Pills 1,800 m.g. per day for 55 pound child'

 

Help:

 

* D-Hist Junior: Histamine Reducer 'Chewable'

* Ketotifen: Histamine Reducer 'Liquid'

* Transfer Factor - Multi Immune 'Capsule pull apart and mix with Kefir/Juice'

* IgG powder 'mix with Kefir/Juice'

* Calm magnesium powder when needed for sleep 'warm water'

 

Non-Essential:

 

* HD Ester C 'Gummies'

* Sprectrum DHA 'Chewables'

 

Post antibiotics: We will continue with specific detox until body PHs normalize.

Edited May 22, 2011 by SF Mom

[MomWithOCDSon]

I know Milk Thistle has made a significant difference - saw changes immediately - and I started taking it myself - and I can tell when I've skipped a day or two.

 

What does milk thistle do?

[Suzan]

Wonderful topic as I am always looking for new and better and to save $$ and take less pills! As you can see, I take a lot.

 

Essesential (because I notice a difference if I stop):

Buhners Core Protocol including resversatrol and andrographis (not taking cats claw yet but will soon)

NSI Synergy 3000 (includes CoQ10, ALA, Vitamin D and maybe something else that I was able to stop buying extra of these things)

Melatonin

 

Essential (because this is what LLMD has me on)

Transfer Factor (LymPlus and Multi-Immune) - Very expensive but is is suposed to really help raise CD57. I herxed badly when I started the lymplus

Zithromax

Flagyl

Doxycycline

Plaquinil - helps abx work better and move to hard to reach areas of the body and I think it's a cyst buster too

Cholestyramine - bile binder

Diflucan

Nystatin

Probiotic

 

ALA (LLMD recommends specifically) but I don't know if it's helping.

 

Helpful?:

Chlorella

Motrin

Omega 3

5-HTP ( has been very helpful in the past, not sure if I still need it)

Iron(because I've had low iron stores for years)

Sarsaparilla (when herxing)

 

For bad allergies

Benadryl

Zyrtec

Flonase

[kferricks]

Is this an antibiotic? Plaquinil

[LNN]

I know Milk Thistle has made a significant difference - saw changes immediately - and I started taking it myself - and I can tell when I've skipped a day or two.

 

What does milk thistle do?

This does a decent explanation

http://books.google.com/books?id=J4TFtQeHkQAC&pg=PA174&dq=milk+thistle+lyme&hl=en&ei=74XXTce2BefX0QGDg_D7Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=milk%20thistle%20lyme&f=false

 

Milk thistle is a liver detox. It helped DS and I started taking it and feel much better. I'm in good health overall but there's just a wee bit of stress that comes with raising our kids and this seems to help me feel clearer, more energy, more "on my game".

[Suzan]

Is this an antibiotic? Plaquinil

 

 

It's an antimalarial drug. I have it spelled wrong, it's actually plaquenil but the real name of the drug is hydroxychloroquine....

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine

[philamom]

Essential - Acetyl-Carnitine - helps with motor tic and the SAMe

SAMe - depression and detox

Trans Factor - immune

Biotin and B2,B5

Chorella - detox,immune - a specific brand

Magnesium

Quercitin - allergies, inflammation and detox

Probiotics - just switched to VLS3(225 billion per cap twice a day)

5HTP

zinc

May I ask what brand Chorella you use?

[momaine]

This is what we are doing for now:

 

Buffered Vitamin C, helps with detox

Glutathione (or N-Acytlecysteine, but be careful of yeast if you choose the NAC), helps with detox

Resveratrol, helps with detox

Epsom Salt Bath or shower, helps with detox

 

(when we started Glutathione/NAC, Resveraltrol, and epsom salt showers, dd started getting die off rashed much more frequently)

 

Multivitamin

Vitamin D2 and B3

Omega 3's

 

CoQ10 for energy

[philamom]

Essential:

Probiotics- Currently using Klaire Ther-Biotic Detoxification Support, Sacch boulardii (Florastor for kids), and Culturelle

Detox- Nuramedix Burbur & Parsley (15 drops am/pm)

Multi Vitamin

 

Plan to add Bentonite pills, SyImmune, and Custom Probiotics next week.

[lismom]

Essential - Acetyl-Carnitine - helps with motor tic and the SAMe

SAMe - depression and detox

Trans Factor - immune

Biotin and B2,B5

Chorella - detox,immune - a specific brand

Magnesium

Quercitin - allergies, inflammation and detox

Probiotics - just switched to VLS3(225 billion per cap twice a day)

5HTP

zinc

May I ask what brand Chorella you use?

 

We're using Sun-A brand. Supposed to be very digestable. Worked our way up to 5g. You can get 500mg pills. I give all 10 pills at once which you can, but some split am and pm. i will be increasing little by little.

[justinekno]

How do you do Epsom salt showers?

 

 

Epsom Salt Bath or shower, helps with detox

 

(when we started Glutathione/NAC, Resveraltrol, and epsom salt showers, dd started getting die off rashed much more frequently)

 

[momaine]

How do you do Epsom salt showers?

 

 

Epsom Salt Bath or shower, helps with detox

 

(when we started Glutathione/NAC, Resveraltrol, and epsom salt showers, dd started getting die off rashed much more frequently)

 

ha ha.. she showers and takes epsom salts and rubs them all over her body. EVERY time she does this she gets a die off rash.