thereishope Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 This episode just ended. Here's the link if youd like to watch "The Vaccine War". http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/view/
MomWithOCDSon Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Thanks, Vickie. I was downstairs, helping DS with his homework, when DH came to tell me it was on. Unfortunately, we already had the cable DVR set to record 2 other programs at the time, and that's the limit! So I'll be glad to catch this episode via your post.
NancyD Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 I was sooo disappointed in last night's Frontline! I had hoped that they would produce a more balanced view and use good journalism. Instead it was more of the same. I'm sorry I let them use footage of my dd as a baby. It is nothing more than an infomercial for Paul Offit and the CDC! Nancy
kim Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Nancy, I'm glad you posted that remark. I was so disgusted with the first 5 minutes, I just clicked out. Didn't know if they ever got to any good material from "the other side," or not, but just couldn't take it. Yea, we forgot about the disease's. That's the reason that the majority of us vaccinated. Has anyone ever seen this email? http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/2.7.pdf These are the people that we are supposed to trust? That blackened area at the top says "It just won't go away." There is another that talks about ways to dumb down the #'s. No matter where thimerosal falls in the whole scheme of things, once you see the way things happen behind the scenes and the "no harm studies," you just don't really care what these people have to say. We NEED INDEPENDENT STUDIES. No CDC, IOM, PHARMA etc. involvement
thereishope Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 Which baby? The one with whooping cough? I was sooo disappointed in last night's Frontline! I had hoped that they would produce a more balanced view and use good journalism. Instead it was more of the same. I'm sorry I let them use footage of my dd as a baby. It is nothing more than an infomercial for Paul Offit and the CDC! Nancy
NancyD Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Which baby? The one with whooping cough? No, the 18-month-old who is pacing back and forth in her crib is my dd. I gave frontline permission to use footage of four kids (including my dd) from a film I produced on autism 10 years ago but they ended up using footage of a child for which I never gave them permission. So I'm not happy with them right now, especially having seen the outcome.
MomWithOCDSon Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Well, NancyD, you're not the only one unhappy with Frontline. My DH found this just this morning: Response to "Vaccine War" Front Line "Documentary" Very disappointed. I used to like "Frontline" a lot!
thereishope Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 After I asked you that, I remembered your daughter is older. I'm sorry they used you like that. Which baby? The one with whooping cough? No, the 18-month-old who is pacing back and forth in her crib is my dd. I gave frontline permission to use footage of four kids (including my dd) from a film I produced on autism 10 years ago but they ended up using footage of a child for which I never gave them permission. So I'm not happy with them right now, especially having seen the outcome.
peglem Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Well, NancyD, you're not the only one unhappy with Frontline. My DH found this just this morning: Response to "Vaccine War" Front Line "Documentary" Very disappointed. I used to like "Frontline" a lot! Thank you for posting this. He said everything I was thinking during the show (except, I didn't know they had footage of physicians who are not sold on vaccines). My fear is that the political groundwork is being laid to require that children be vaccinated in order to be covered by insurance...
MomWithOCDSon Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Well, if you liked that one, here's another one: More Disappointment over "Frontline" Vaccine Story
peglem Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Well, if you liked that one, here's another one: More Disappointment over "Frontline" Vaccine Story Yes, but read the comments..OUCH!
MomWithOCDSon Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Well, if you liked that one, here's another one: More Disappointment over "Frontline" Vaccine Story Yes, but read the comments..OUCH! I know . . . but take a careful look at the vernacular and the lingo each of those posters has used. Honestly, it looks like a "PR bomb" to me, as in somebody at Pharma, CDC, etc. pokes some of its worker bees to go into action against such negative press. What "typical" readers of a Philly paper would come armed with terms like "pseudosymmetry," "mercury derivative," "temporal connection" and "causation"? Who talks like that on a regular basis, besides some scientists and/or doctors (present company excluded, Buster! )? The comments section comes off as "rigged" to me.
thereishope Posted April 28, 2010 Author Report Posted April 28, 2010 What are you talkin about? I talk like that all the time I know . . . but take a careful look at the vernacular and the lingo each of those posters has used. Honestly, it looks like a "PR bomb" to me, as in somebody at Pharma, CDC, etc. pokes some of its worker bees to go into action against such negative press. What "typical" readers of a Philly paper would come armed with terms like "pseudosymmetry," "mercury derivative," "temporal connection" and "causation"? Who talks like that on a regular basis, besides some scientists and/or doctors (present company excluded, Buster! )? The comments section comes off as "rigged" to me.
kim Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Where did Offit come up vaccines adding 30 years to lifespan? Anyone know of any such data? I was looking for some of the charts that I have seen over the years and saw this article apparently written in response to the segment being discussed. http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index...l&Itemid=24 check out the graphs The Vaccine War: A Forgotten History
peglem Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 Where did Offit come up vaccines adding 30 years to lifespan? Anyone know of any such data? I was looking for some of the charts that I have seen over the years and saw this article apparently written in response to the segment being discussed. http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index...l&Itemid=24 check out the graphs The Vaccine War: A Forgotten History Interesting. On the thimerosol thing- I don't know if it ever caused damage or not, but it seems ridiculous to me to even study it! Don't inject children with neurotoxins- just seems like a no brainer to me!
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