Guest Guest_efgh Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 ALL since my son is allergic to cow;s milk, I started him on soy milk with calcium since three days. I notice that his vocal tics have suddenly increased after this. He was doing very well for the past two weeks. has anyone experienced increase in tics due to soy milk??is soy known to be a trigger for tics from your experiences??? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_EFGH Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Hi, I do know that soy is a common food allergy when yeast is present or if he has leaky gut sydrome. My naturopath tested Will for a soy allergy and it was negative, however, I know that many people with a body imbalance develop an allergy to soy. Heather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robin O Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 efgh, I dont think its a common trigger for tics but it is something alot of people with allergies have a problem with. I think its in the top 5 five. Some of them are milk, wheat, corn, soy and some others. He may be sensitive to the soy milk. My son cannot have the dairy but so far seems to be doing O.K. with the soy. We also like the Almond milk and I use rice milk when baking etc. The Almond is very sweet and he may like it in cereal etc. Good luck, Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_efgh Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Heather, thanks for your prompt response. Though your son was tested negative for soy, do you give him soy milk or not? If not, are you playing it safe assuming he may be allergic to soy milk? Read a lot of bad effects of soy in brain talk and some other sites too. dont know much about soy and its good(bad)ness. Do you have any ideas? How are your son's tics now after your treatment for yeast? Robin How are your son's tics now after the milkshake trigger? do you give him soy milk or rice milk on a daily basis? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_Heather Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 EFGH, I actually did try the soy milk but he hated it so I didn''t push it knowing that soy may be a problem even though he tested negative for it with the electra dermal testing. He does eat soy ice cream and it doesn't seem to bother him. His tics are still at a minimum right now and I see slight improvement each day. After treating the yeast for 3 months, we are now 3 weeks into the NDF drops for the metals, although we went off them for a few days when he got the chicken pox. We actually aren't up to the full dose yet and I amazed at what is happening already. He is back at school everyday and he has a slight motor tic where he touches his face and wipes his mouth or scratches his head. If you weren't aware of his issues, you might not even notice it. I don't think the kids notice it and the teacher says she hardly ever sees it. We are so thankful for this and hope that he keeps improving with the NDF. We were in despair 6 months ago as everything was soo severe, both motor and vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jean Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Efgh, My son has had no dairy for about 3 weeks already. He takes soy milk daily and eats cheese made from rice/soy. He seems doing fine, and his sniffing is gone. However, my friend's son is allergic to soy. He'll get swollen lips if he eats soy bean. How about goat milk? I took my son to visit the naturopathic physician last week, and she also suspects that my son may have heavy metal and/or yeast problem. I'll post the info. to the "heavy metal" thread tonight when I have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_Heather Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 From all that I have read it seems that heavy metals are ultimately the root cause of all of our problems. The heavy metals cause the overgrowth of yeast, which subsequently throw the body off balance causing allergies. From what I have studied and the way my naturopath explains it is that if we kill the yeast and get rid of the metals, the body will heal itself. It seems easier to treat the body this way rather than spending your life tearing apart your home and trying to guess at everything that may be triggering it. I know that you do need to avoid certain foods to help in the healing but I do believe that spending your life avoiding foods and environmental triggers is not necessary if you get rid of the metals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jean Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Heather, You are so right about it. That's also what my naturopath's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_efgh Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Just read this on "problems in soy" in braintalk.. Check the link http://neuro-mancer.mgh.harvard.edu/ubb/Fo...TML/000145.html Your views please... Its all so confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_efgh Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 one more link in addition to the above http://64.4.16.250/cgi-bin/postrd/EN?hm___...y+milk+children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efgh Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Cut and paste from mercola's website Soy May Cause Cancer and Brain Damage Two senior US government scientists, Drs. Daniel Doerge and Daniel Sheehan, have revealed that chemicals in soy could increase the risk of breast cancer in women, brain damage in both men and women, and abnormalities in infants. The scientists decided to break ranks with colleagues in the FDA and oppose its decision last year to approve a health claim that soy reduced the risk of heart disease. They wrote an internal protest letter warning of 28 studies revealing toxic effects of soy, mostly focusing on chemicals in soy known as isoflavones, which have effects similar to the female hormone estrogen. They claim that research has shown a clear link between soy and the potential for adverse effects in humans. Soy may lead to health problems in animals including altering sexual development of fetuses and causing thyroid disorders. Some studies show that chemicals in soy may increase the chances of estrogen-dependent breast cancer. According to their letter: 'There is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid.' 'During pregnancy in humans, isoflavones per se could be a risk factor for abnormal brain and reproductive tract development.' According to one of the scientists, parents who give their children soy milk or formulas "are exposing their children to chemicals which we know have adverse effects in animals. It's like doing a large uncontrolled and unmonitored experiment on infants.' The soy industry insists that the adverse effects seen in animals do not apply to humans. The Guardian August 13, 2000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT: As time goes on I suspect the real truth regarding soy will begin to emerge in even the traditional media. If my schedule ever opens up, I plan on promoting this message more widely and I have even reserved the domain www.nosoy.com. If you do not yet understand the reason why soy should not be considered a health food please review the following links: The ABC television news program 20/20 aired a feature story on June 8, 2000, on the dangers of soy. It was great to see some in the mainstream media finally picking up on this story. Besides the articles linked below, another good resource for information on the dangers of soy is The Weston A. Price Foundation, which has a goal to achieve a ban on the use of soy formula for infants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_efgh Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 I am totally new to "soy". Any inputs on the above post?? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemar Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 efgh I dont know much about the pros and cons of soy, but do know that GOAT's Milk and it's products are an exellent substitute for regular dairy products, and does not seem to produce the problems that people who are lactose intolerant or allergic have. My kids really like the taste and i get mine at Whole Foods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 efgh, From what I have read soy needs to be eaten in a fermented state. I guess by fermenting it you counter the bad effects ( I beleive it actually has a toxin). I've also read that this is how the eat it in the Orient. Also, I can't specifically remember which countries, but in Europe some countries have warning labels on their soy formula. Jennifer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Heather, What you say makes SO much sense. re heavy metals and yeast being a root cause for many. Of course in my son's case, his antioxidant issues may be the root of heavy metal build-up. Isn't this whole area the DAN protocol? Look at how many of us are finding problems here. I remember Chemar mentioning yeast very early on and Jennifer of course with heavy metals. Of course, so much is said about fatty acids too...that's why I like the testing scenario. But most importantly, if there is an order that they must be treated, it is critical to know this. My goal is that all this ultimately eliminates or minimizes my son's sensitivity to computers/TV, plus his occasional anxiety/mood issues and sleep delay issues. Nice goal! My doctor thinks his allergies should improve also, but right now, the wheat allergy likely aggravates things by interfering with nutrient absorption. efgh, I though fatty acids just helped with impulse control, not detox, but I am not an expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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