rowingmom Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 These chemicals destroy our intestinal probiotic bacteria, rendering our immune systems incompetent. http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/ http://www.naturalnews.com/050830_chemical_violence_GMOs_glyphosate.html The U.S. Department of Agriculture's recent approval of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) resistant to new herbicides will soon unleash a flood of new toxic chemicals across the nation's agricultural heartland, observers have warned.Previously, nearly all GMO crops approved for planting were engineered for resistance to a single herbicide: Monsanto's blockbuster product Roundup (glyphosate). The widespread adoption of these crops led to an explosion in Roundup use, which in turn spurred the evolution of Roundup resistance in agricultural weeds.In response to the proliferation of Roundup-resistant "superweeds," GMO companies have turned to engineering multi-herbicide resistance into their crops. Specifically, GMO crops are now available resistant to both Roundup and the Dow herbicide 2,4-D, or Roundup and another herbicide, Dicamba.But as critics of biotechnology have repeatedly noted, the adoption of these new GMOs will merely exacerbate the problem - encouraging still more herbicide use and the evolution of ever-tougher superweeds. In a recent article, Dr. Jonathan Latham of the Bioscience Resource Project referred to the process as "a vicious cycle that threatens both our environment and our food supply."Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050830_chemical_violence_GMOs_glyphosate.html#ixzz3jCxPFuNi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mama2alex Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Thanks for posting this. My understanding is that anything certified organic cannot contain GMO's. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) That is correct. However food that is simply labelled "non-GMO" can still contain glyphosate. It won't be used so much before planting because the non-GMO plants can't handle it, but it will be sprayed before harvest for desiccation and ease of combining. We then get to eat it. Pretty much all conventional dried grains (wheat, oats, psyllium, barley, corn etc.) and legumes (dried/canned beans, lentils) will have been sprayed with desiccant. CAFO (feed lot) animals are fed these GMO and/or desiccated grains and the pesticides are incorporated into their tissues. We are dosed when we eat it. So when you see "grain fed" labels on your meat, it's best to run the other way. Essentially, anything not labelled "organic" contains either pesticides and/or GMOs. In my opinion this is just one of the reasons why so many people today are dealing with immune dysfunction, autoimmune disease and cancer. Edited August 19, 2015 by rowingmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat140 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Bozos, bozos. I'd heard about the 2,4-D and Dicamba-resistant crops in development, but I didn't know they'd approved them. That seems very quick, unless I'm misremembering how long ago it was. However food that is simply labelled "non-GMO" can still contain glyphosate. It won't be used so much before planting because the non-GMO plants can't handle it, but it will be sprayed before harvest for desiccation and ease of combining.You're not serious? That's barmy. Is that just in America, does anyone know, or does it happen over on this side as well? We tend to have slightly more regulations. In fact, there's talk of a complete moratorium on glyphosate over here (EU-wide) until they've looked into the recent evidence that it might be carcinogenic. But I've forgotten exactly where that's up to. The manufacturers are fighting it tooth and nail of course, that I do remember. Threatening to sue the EU for damages, and all that. CAFO (feed lot) animals are fed these GMO and/or desiccated grains and the pesticides are incorporated into their tissues. We are dosed when we eat it. So when you see "grain fed" labels on your meat, it's best to run the other way.Can't help thinking that this is another reason I'm glad I'm vegetarian Less to worry about! OK, so plants are sprayed too, but I'd imagine that with meat you might get tissue accumulation - like the way DDT accumulated in the bodies of birds that ate contaminated insects, and then in the bodies of birds that ate those birds, so that it got more and more concentrated the further up the food chain it went. Edited August 19, 2015 by Wombat140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) We are using these now: Flour: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJNVSOA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00 http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049YMC3Q?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSZBEAG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage along with several Bob Red mill rice flour, and lentils (we grind into flour) These are non-gmo and organic. http://smile.amazon.com/Bobs-Red-Mill-Lentils-27-Ounce/dp/B004VLVK4O/ref=sr_1_2?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028852&sr=8-2&keywords=bob+mill+lentils Noodles: http://smile.amazon.com/Hodgson-Mills-Veggie-Rotini-Pasta/dp/B001SAWAWM/ref=sr_1_1?s=grocery&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028622&sr=1-1&keywords=07151800026 Rice: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005763K40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EH0RU2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage Most our veggies/mushrooms are now dehydrated: http://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Earth-Products-Vegetable-Quart/dp/B008BTHDQQ/ref=sr_1_2?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028717&sr=8-2&keywords=dehydrated+veggie http://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Earth-Products-Broccoli-Quart/dp/B00846WORO/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028739&sr=8-1&keywords=dehydrated+broccoli http://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Earth-Products-Peppers-Quart/dp/B007C7D2D6/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028776&sr=8-1&keywords=dehydrated+bell+pepper We do not completely avoid gmo or pesticides this way, but they are reduced dramatically. White rice and processed, bleached, bromated flours are highly inflammatory, so that is where we started was trying to reduce inflammatory foods. And heck it all benefits PANDAS network when I buy it through Amazon, so a double benefit! Edited August 20, 2015 by mayzoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Bozos, bozos. I'd heard about the 2,4-D and Dicamba-resistant crops in development, but I didn't know they'd approved them. That seems very quick, unless I'm misremembering how long ago it was. You're not serious? That's barmy. Is that just in America, does anyone know, or does it happen over on this side as well? We tend to have slightly more regulations. In fact, there's talk of a complete moratorium on glyphosate over here (EU-wide) until they've looked into the recent evidence that it might be carcinogenic. But I've forgotten exactly where that's up to. The manufacturers are fighting it tooth and nail of course, that I do remember. Threatening to sue the EU for damages, and all that. Can't help thinking that this is another reason I'm glad I'm vegetarian Less to worry about! OK, so plants are sprayed too, but I'd imagine that with meat you might get tissue accumulation - like the way DDT accumulated in the bodies of birds that ate contaminated insects, and then in the bodies of birds that ate those birds, so that it got more and more concentrated the further up the food chain it went. They desiccate conventional crops (non-GMO) with pesticides in Canada as well. pulse.ab.ca/images/uploads/page.../July_2015_MRL_Chart_Update.pdf I'm not sure about the UK. Good for the UK for taking a stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) We are using these now: Flour: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJNVSOA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00 http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049YMC3Q?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSZBEAG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage along with several Bob Red mill rice flour, and lentils (we grind into flour) These are non-gmo and organic. http://smile.amazon.com/Bobs-Red-Mill-Lentils-27-Ounce/dp/B004VLVK4O/ref=sr_1_2?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028852&sr=8-2&keywords=bob+mill+lentils Noodles: http://smile.amazon.com/Hodgson-Mills-Veggie-Rotini-Pasta/dp/B001SAWAWM/ref=sr_1_1?s=grocery&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028622&sr=1-1&keywords=07151800026 Rice: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B005763K40?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EH0RU2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage Most our veggies/mushrooms are now dehydrated: http://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Earth-Products-Vegetable-Quart/dp/B008BTHDQQ/ref=sr_1_2?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028717&sr=8-2&keywords=dehydrated+veggie http://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Earth-Products-Broccoli-Quart/dp/B00846WORO/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028739&sr=8-1&keywords=dehydrated+broccoli http://smile.amazon.com/Mother-Earth-Products-Peppers-Quart/dp/B007C7D2D6/ref=sr_1_1?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1440028776&sr=8-1&keywords=dehydrated+bell+pepper We do not completely avoid gmo or pesticides this way, but they are reduced dramatically. White rice and processed, bleached, bromated flours are highly inflammatory, so that is where we started was trying to reduce inflammatory foods. And heck it all benefits PANDAS network when I buy it through Amazon, so a double benefit! You are right about the flour. 100% natural means nothing other than it comes from the earth. The fact that it is desiccated with pesticides is obvious in the omission of the "organic" label. Don't be fooled into complacency. We vote for or against organic foods with our pocket books. Mother Earth products - dried vegetable soup: About the Product Non GMO and gluten free Can store up to 25 years in proper conditions Snack out of the bag or use with meals or camping Great source of essential vitamins and minerals; One full quart in plastic jar Look for all our other great product's; Dried veggies, freeze dried fruits and veggies, true dehydrated beans and TVP Textured vegetable protein: http://www.livestrong.com/article/495664-harmful-effects-of-textured-vegetable-protein/ Textured vegetable protein, TVP, is also known as isolated soy protein. It is a protein derived from soybeans, but the processing of soybeans into TVP includes chemical alterations. The makers of TVP first mix soybeans, with the oil removed, in an alkali solution, wash them in acid and then neutralize them in a different alkali bath. They then spray-dry the resulting soy curds using high temperatures that turn the curds into powder. More high temperature and pressure applied to the powder results in textured vegetable proteins that can be shaped into strips, chunks or granules for use in foods as meat substitutes. The processing adds flavor enhancers, artificial colorings, emulsifiers and thickening agents, including nitrosamine, which is a carcinogen -- a substance known or is suspected to cause cancer. Textured vegetable protein may not be harmful for everyone, but it contains a hidden ingredient that causes reactions in some people. Textured vegetable protein, has MSG, or monosodium glutamate, a common flavor enhancer. If you are MSG-intolerant, you may experience unpleasant reactions to eating foods with textured vegetable protein. People with soy allergens may also experience discomfort and problems from eating textured vegetable protein Edited August 20, 2015 by rowingmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) You are right about the flour. 100% natural means nothing other than it comes from the earth. The fact that it is desiccated with pesticides is obvious in the omission of the "organic" label. Don't be fooled into complacency. We vote for or against organic foods with our pocket books. Mother Earth products - dried vegetable soup: About the Product Non GMO and gluten free Can store up to 25 years in proper conditions Snack out of the bag or use with meals or camping Great source of essential vitamins and minerals; One full quart in plastic jar Look for all our other great product's; Dried veggies, freeze dried fruits and veggies, true dehydrated beans and TVP Textured vegetable protein: http://www.livestrong.com/article/495664-harmful-effects-of-textured-vegetable-protein/ Textured vegetable protein, TVP, is also known as isolated soy protein. It is a protein derived from soybeans, but the processing of soybeans into TVP includes chemical alterations. The makers of TVP first mix soybeans, with the oil removed, in an alkali solution, wash them in acid and then neutralize them in a different alkali bath. They then spray-dry the resulting soy curds using high temperatures that turn the curds into powder. More high temperature and pressure applied to the powder results in textured vegetable proteins that can be shaped into strips, chunks or granules for use in foods as meat substitutes. The processing adds flavor enhancers, artificial colorings, emulsifiers and thickening agents, including nitrosamine, which is a carcinogen -- a substance known or is suspected to cause cancer. Textured vegetable protein may not be harmful for everyone, but it contains a hidden ingredient that causes reactions in some people. Textured vegetable protein, has MSG, or monosodium glutamate, a common flavor enhancer. If you are MSG-intolerant, you may experience unpleasant reactions to eating foods with textured vegetable protein. People with soy allergens may also experience discomfort and problems from eating textured vegetable protein Just for clarity, the TVP is a different product from what I linked. It is listed under the "Look for all our other great product's". I do not even know what TVP would be used for . The white flour is not organic, but it is non-gmo, unbleached, and not bromated. The multi grain bread flour, lentils, brown rice flour, and coconut flour are organic. I have not yet found an organic white flour that we can afford so we just don't use it often. Sadly, not everyone can afford to go 100% organic. It is just not feasible for most of us. We have to do the best we can within the budget we have. Edited August 20, 2015 by mayzoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat140 Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 TVP's what most commercial vegetarian sausages and burgers are made from (the main exception is Quorn which is made from a fungus). It's also sometimes sold loose in chunks so you can add it to stews etc. as if it was meat. Tends to be a bit chewy but tastes good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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