Dr Mercola interviews Klinghart

[norcalmom]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/02/05/dr-dietrich-klinghardt-on-lyme-disease.aspx?e_cid=20120205_SNL_Art_1

[hugs2day]

Thank you! Great information, although I don't know how anybody gets rid of all the electro waves of cell phones, smart meters, etc. A lot of work.

[JuliaFaith]

Thank you! Great information, although I don't know how anybody gets rid of all the electro waves of cell phones, smart meters, etc. A lot of work.

lessEMF.com has different products. Also, stetzer filters are interesting. Bought these and meter to read emf #s. (~$500) The wire-less phones we use in the home are really much worse than cell phones. Someone told me they are like a jet airplane in EMF exposure.

Edited February 7, 2012 by JuliaFaith

[rowingmom]

I noticed that Dr Klinghardt believes that parasites are a real problem and treats for them before starting Abx protocols for bacteria. Has anyone had improvement addressing parasites? Thanks.

[JuliaFaith]

I noticed that Dr Klinghardt believes that parasites are a real problem and treats for them before starting Abx protocols for bacteria. Has anyone had improvement addressing parasites? Thanks.

Energy was the biggest improvement that I noticed. He also got rid of a cough and anxiety went down but he was being treated for several things at once so not sure if it was just the parasite treatment.

[SSS]

I noticed that Dr Klinghardt believes that parasites are a real problem and treats for them before starting Abx protocols for bacteria. Has anyone had improvement addressing parasites? Thanks.

 

**Dd has had 3 rounds of parasite treatment, I just started my 2nd round (pharmaceutical protocol)

I did Humaworm last summer, meant for dd, but herbs don't always agree with her, so I doubled her dose and took it, got some adult Humaworm for DH at the same time (good sport)

I think it is very important.

[rowingmom]

I noticed that Dr Klinghardt believes that parasites are a real problem and treats for them before starting Abx protocols for bacteria. Has anyone had improvement addressing parasites? Thanks.

 

**Dd has had 3 rounds of parasite treatment, I just started my 2nd round (pharmaceutical protocol)

I did Humaworm last summer, meant for dd, but herbs don't always agree with her, so I doubled her dose and took it, got some adult Humaworm for DH at the same time (good sport)

I think it is very important.

 

Can I ask which pharmaceutical your Dr is using? Our LLMD has never brought up the treatment of parasites and I would like to be able to make some suggestions. I will ask if she knows about Humaworm. When we were young my Mom always gave us "spring tonic" (a de-wormer I found out later). Neighbours would send their kids over to take some too.

[SSS]

Hi-

Humaworm is an herbal protocol available online.

 

Our Dr.'s treatment, based on weight, is:

Albendazole taken 2x a day for 7 days

On the last day, day 7, also take a 1 time dose of 3 pills of Ivermectin (Stromecol)

off for 10 days - then repeat on for 7 days, off for 10, repeat.

(Total of 3 times)

 

I know parasites are beyond gross to talk about, but it is estimated just about everyone has them, but for Lyme folk... yeah, I think it is important.

I didn't know about Lyme last summer, but we have always had funky gastric issues- yeast, etc.

[norcalmom]

Some more interesting stuff on Klinghardt's website - the videos are the ones labeled "fundamental teachings" sequential 1-5, about 45 minutes to watch them all. He even shows the "sanctuary" which looks like a mosquito net that you drape over the bed when you sleep and he runs the EMF Microwave meter inside and outside to show the difference. There are paints, plastic films, fabrics and all manner of materials that can block different transmissions. (the videos just sho this one net, but my own research turned up the other stuff)

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/Videos/

 

There are companies that come to your home to measure the exposure you have in different areas. They also rent the meters. Since there is a company not to far from my area, I'm going to have an engineer expert come and take the measurements (there are about 3 different measurements and meters) and talk to us about it. Hubby is in high tech (smart phones mostly) and is office abuts DS's bedroom. It houses a lot of wireless stuff and looks like space aliens are landing if you go in there at night. DH is not a "believer" thinks I'm a bit crazy actually (hey - it not bothering him therefore it must not be something that exists - esp. since all of his world thinks its acceptable!)- but he'll let me do what I want.

 

Maybe "Electro Smog" will be something, maybe not. I dunno what the future will hold, but if there is a low impact thing that I can do that will protect my kid from something that could be causing issues because he has sensitive immune issues - I'm open to it.

 

We recently did the KPU testing that he talks about, and I'm interested to find out the results of that...might be another week or so.

[sf_mom]

I too believe parasite play a big role in Lyme et al. It took use a good year to treat DH for 2 different parasites and 2 of three children also confirmed positive for parasites. Our older DS PANS/lyme child even had rectal bleeding for almost 8 weeks due to parasite and why we needed to investigate beyond original PANDAS diagnoses. LLMD prescribed Alinia and bleeding stopped within 48 hours of starting antibiotic. We've used a bunch of different herbal remedies and antibiotics to treat.... again, DHs parasites being the most difficult to eradicate but probably also had the parasites the longest. I plan to re-treat regularly for parasites.

 

Norcalmom: Glad to see you tested for KPU!!

[JuliaFaith]

Ds is just starting 2nd full parasite protocol since beginning of treatment. Did just read on one of Betterhealthguy.com recap of conference that dr kK believes parasites can be a root cause of Pans/Pandas. Son also just had a major flair 2weeks ago which is prob the reason for protocol. Every time son starts bitting nails dr puts him on some new anti-parasitic supp.

 

Since flair doing full-blown protocol this time (treats worms and parasites).:

 

Biltricide 2 days

Ivermectin- 4weeks

Alinia- 4 weeks

 

Last treatment 20 months ago son showed some good improvement. Will be interesting to see how he progresses tthis time.

 

Sorry for typos on phone keuboard.

[Christianmom]

My DS17 goes to a Klinghardt-trained doctor, Dr. Schwartz, in Jenkinstown, PA. We began going to him in January of this year. The first thing he put my son on was the following treatment for parasites:

 

1. 14 days -- Ivermectin Avicel -- 9 mg capsules -- 4 per day (specially compounded at Key Pharmacy near Dr. Klinghardt)

Pyrantel Pamoate -- 400 mg. capsules -- 2 per day (specially compounded at Key Pharmacy)

 

2. 14 days -- Albenza -- 200 mg. tablets -- 2 per day

 

3. 14 days -- Alinia -- 500 mg. -- 2 per day

 

Dr. S would not treat my son's lyme (except for keeping him on the Biaxin he was already on from Dr. T) until this treatment was finished and the parasites tested as gone by ART.

 

My son was doing very, very poorly when we first starting treatment with Dr. S, maybe functioning at 30%. After the parasite treatment we noticed immediate improvement in some things, but certainly not everything. For instance, he could play the piano much longer without his OCD being set off (30 minutes instead of 10), he could do simple tasks without much trouble, he didn't mind washing dishes (before he hated anything to do with water), he was able to write simple sentences (couldn't before because of severe OCD). But overall my son was still far from living a normal life for a 17-year-old.

 

Since the parasite treatment, Dr. S has treated my son for h. pyroluri, KPU, lyme (Klinghardt "lyme cocktail"), bartonella, babesia, strep, methylation, and yeast. My son has continued to improve, reaching a level of about 60% of where he was before being sick. He's now doing simple tasks with no problems, and is able to do difficult tasks (like Calculus) slowly, if I sit beside him (can't do it alone). He has also taken an interest, for the first time, in getting his learner's permit. This is a big, big step for him. But still, my son is far from where he was before getting sick. I would say he is at about 60%. He still has many, many obsessions/compulsions when he tries to accomplish anything difficult, if he is alone. Dr. S feels the lyme will need to be treated for at least another year with the "lyme cocktail" as well as the K.Bart, K.Bab. etc. for bartonella and babesia.

 

Dr. S has now added an aggressive viral protocol for EBV and CMV. My son's only been on this protocol for a couple of weeks, so it is hard to tell if there is improvement yet. Interestingly, the only "herx" my son usually gets is that the "wanting to wish his hands" comes back, but only at night. Then it goes away. After that we usually see improvement. My son is also on a 30-day course of minocycline for strep (can't seem to lick strep; my son is asymptomatic), and Dr. S is considering taking out my son's tonsils. We will talk about this on our next visit. (Really hoping to not have to do that.)

 

The parasite treatment was the turning point for my son. The doctor felt that parasites were a big issues for him, more of an issue even than lyme. Based on ART testing, he doesn't feel that my son's lyme was ever all that bad, and it continues to test lower and lower on each visit. I believe treating the KPU was a big help for my son as well. My son tested very high for KPU both by lab testing and by ART.