Methylation

[trggirl]

I am loving these discussions on methylation. I have been interested in this for a couple of years. My daughter fits into both categories (under and overmethylation) so it's not a crystal clear science, but it is interesting.

 

Suzan, I don't spend as much time on this forum as the PANDAS. Did you post about a DMAE experience? We actually started my daughter on this several months ago and she is doing well on it. I will say though that is seemed to be a miracle drug the first week or two and then slacked off. It did seem to help tics and focus. I would like to increase the dose but my doc is not comfortable with it. I gather from the little bit I am reading that your daughter is having a bad experience? I would really like to read about your experience.

 

Just as another piece of information, my daughter does not do well on B12 (cyano or methylcobalamine) either. It makes her very difficult and argumentative. It is very noticeable.

 

SF Mom, do you have any books that you recommend talking about acidic and basic environments in the body? I have wondered if this might be a potential activating or deactivating thing for Camkinase in the body.

[sf_mom]

Trg Girl: Here are a couple of good books on the topic of Alakaline verses Acidic bodies. These books are food focused. So, what you eat that creates alkaline or acidic environment. We are approaching from the concept of not what you eat but how you assist the body detoxification to create normal PH... However, it is same theory that applies just a slightly different approach. We work with a nutritionist on this approach and not much is written on detoxification and PH balances. We found our children to be very acidic. We've been tracking PHs now for almost two years and they are normalizing. The take away for our family is that helping our children detox daily has been extremely beneficial and seems to have helped normalize their PHs. Many ways to go about approaching detox.... DAN's, Neuropaths, Naturalpaths, LLMDs seem to understand detox and methylation better than most other Dr.s. I also feel addressing the mineral/vitamin deficiencies our children have/had was equally as important as the detox'ing aspect.

 

Alkalize or Die: Superior Health Through Proper Alkaline-Acid Balance

 

The pH Miracle: Balance Your Diet, Reclaim Your Health

Edited October 24, 2011 by SF Mom

[Christianmom]

Trg Girl: Here are a couple of good books on the topic of Alakaline verses Acidic bodies. These books are food focused. So, what you eat that creates alkaline or acidic environment.

 

Is fecal pH the same as saliva pH. My son's fecal pH (through the Metametrix stool test) was 5.9 (range 5.7-7.1). Would he be acidic/alkaline or normal?

[Suzan]

Did you post about a DMAE experience? We actually started my daughter on this several months ago and she is doing well on it. I will say though that is seemed to be a miracle drug the first week or two and then slacked off. It did seem to help tics and focus. I would like to increase the dose but my doc is not comfortable with it. I gather from the little bit I am reading that your daughter is having a bad experience? I would really like to read about your experience.

 

Hi there! Yes, I was the one who posted about dd10 and DMAE. I can't know for certain yet if it was from this or not. But I had started giving her DMAE and she became more emotional, concerned about the weather and clingy. At this point I started reading the undermethylation stuff and saw that about the DMAE. I was going to see if this cleared up when we stopped. So far it hasn't but it's only been a few days and I think I have too many things at play to know (tried a new detox over the weekend that kicked us on our butts).

 

So more to follow on that....

 

Susan

[sf_mom]

Christianmom: I am not sure on fecal PH range. We've only been focused on a 14 days sampling of first morning saliva (6.8 to 7.0 better too high then too low) and early evening urine (5.7 to 6.3 better too low than too high). You can also do blood PHs which is inconvenient and slightly different range depending on source.

 

I do believe it is valuable to know how acidic or how alkaline an individuals is but it is only one aspect of wellness. Typically people with cancer will be very acidic... green diets, juicing are very popular to produce more alkaline environment potentially slowing malignant growth. However, being over alkaline is not good either so once again a balance range is recommended.

 

Trying to lower PHs via detoxification can take a very long time. You need to be consistent and committed for at least two years or potentially longer and always best to have some guidance on the type of detox.