KaraM Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Hi, I've got this bottle of Inositol powder that I bought last year to try to help my dd8's OCD. It's actually sold in the section with supplement for liver functioning at Whole Foods. The label says "promotes liver function and cellular detoxification." Would this help with the Lyme detox?? On a different note, the first time I heard of using Milk Thistle was on the Lyme Forum. I don't think I've ever seen it mentioned on the PANDAS/PITAND forum and I wonder why. Isn't it supposed to be an anti-inflammatory? (I know I'm on the Lyme Forum but that a lot of you are PANDAS parents, too). Just wondering... Kara
LNN Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Hmmm...never thought about it. I always think about inositol in terms of OCD and since starting lyme/bartonella treatment, the OCD has gone away, so our bottle is in the way back of the cabinet now. Might be worth looking into (just that DS responded to the MT within hours, so it's my current "love"). I thought about posting the MT stuff on the Pandas forum after I learned about it last week, but I generally think of MT in terms of detox and clearing toxins from die off, rather than as an anti-inflammatory (not that it isn't - I just never thought of it that way). In Pandas, the focus seems more on the aftermath after the infection is cleared. Not that some wouldn't benefit, either during an active infection or myco or maybe even after IVIG, or as a way to protect the liver against all the motrin. But since lyme is such a polarizing topic, I never posted anything over there. Edited April 1, 2011 by LLM
philamom Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) y. Edited April 29, 2012 by philamom
LNN Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 So, can milk thistle help with ocd? I was thinking of trying it to detox the liver, but that would be great if it also helped the ocd. I can only talk about personal experience. I only stumbled on MT last Friday - so by no means an expert. I found this http://books.google.com/books?id=J4TFtQeHkQAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=lyme&hl=en&ei=MSuWTdzaIaaJ0QG77r2FDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=milk%20thistle&f=false and was dreading a bad weekend of herx stuff, having just endured a 30 min melt down where DS was fixated on the idea of getting in the car to buy a Nintendo DS N-O-W even tho he'd only saved $100 toward one. Hadn't seen that kind of idea fixation and emotion in a long time. In addition, DS had also been doing this punching compulsion where he punches his bladder to "check" if he needs to pee - something that showed up last summer with urinary frequency post-IVIG (which I now view as a very long herx). It went away last Oct when we started treatment for bartonella. But it reappeared a few weeks ago and got a lot worse after starting omnicef. He also started doing this writhing, back arching compulsion. A week of MT and these things are way way down. Is now going as long as an hour without any compulsion. So if the OCD behaviors are triggered by a bacteria, or some sort of reaction to a bacteria, and an abx causes a die off that amplifies the OCD, then detox, like MT, could conceivably help with the OCD. Not like I'd get on an OCD forum and proclaim that MT can help OCD the same way inositol can. But for our kids...maybe. It seems to have helped in our house (we've been giving glutathione for months, which I also thinks helps, but the glutathione alone didn't seem to help with the recent herx stuff in the same way the MT did. DS feels the glutathione was more helpful for brain fog) Maybe give it a try and let me know...
philamom Posted April 2, 2011 Report Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) So, can milk thistle help with ocd? I was thinking of trying it to detox the liver, but that would be great if it also helped the ocd. I can only talk about personal experience. I only stumbled on MT last Friday - so by no means an expert. I found this http://books.google.com/books?id=J4TFtQeHkQAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=lyme&hl=en&ei=MSuWTdzaIaaJ0QG77r2FDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=milk%20thistle&f=false and was dreading a bad weekend of herx stuff, having just endured a 30 min melt down where DS was fixated on the idea of getting in the car to buy a Nintendo DS N-O-W even tho he'd only saved $100 toward one. Hadn't seen that kind of idea fixation and emotion in a long time. In addition, DS had also been doing this punching compulsion where he punches his bladder to "check" if he needs to pee - something that showed up last summer with urinary frequency post-IVIG (which I now view as a very long herx). It went away last Oct when we started treatment for bartonella. But it reappeared a few weeks ago and got a lot worse after starting omnicef. He also started doing this writhing, back arching compulsion. A week of MT and these things are way way down. Is now going as long as an hour without any compulsion. So if the OCD behaviors are triggered by a bacteria, or some sort of reaction to a bacteria, and an abx causes a die off that amplifies the OCD, then detox, like MT, could conceivably help with the OCD. Not like I'd get on an OCD forum and proclaim that MT can help OCD the same way inositol can. But for our kids...maybe. It seems to have helped in our house (we've been giving glutathione for months, which I also thinks helps, but the glutathione alone didn't seem to help with the recent herx stuff in the same way the MT did. DS feels the glutathione was more helpful for brain fog) Maybe give it a try and let me know... y Edited April 29, 2012 by philamom
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