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When we first did ivig with dr k in Chicago three years ago he urged us to wait to do another so quickly. He and other wise moms before me coached me and said it can take A YEAR for the brain to heal. Not what I wanted to hear. In the absence of a stair step recovery and flares of unbearable behavior I pushed for more ivig. In hindsight I cannot say that was the answer. It was only until we did our last one 15 months ago that I see holding improvements. For us, TIME was our friend. And back then I was convinced it was my enemy and it was a very tough road indeed. There's nothing worse than when your child is spiraling and you are grasping for more help. Sometimes more is not better, and continuing to support their immune systems, gut healing, detoxing, etc can further contribute to their healing. I know each situation is different, but when you're inthe eye of the storm it is never clear what to do next. Best wishes.
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White plains/westchester ny is the closest and easiest by far, but not every carrier offers service. Worth a check.
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As I was getting dressed this morning I heard a snippet on the news about vaccines...something like, "new information reveals that childhood vaccines are not doing what they intended...". Didn't catch the piece. If anyone else did, I am anxious to hear (probably what we have already hypothesized!) but maybe it's the start of something.
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LLM and MomOCD, Soooooo well written and mirrors my sentiments exactly. I have yet to speak to ANY doctor with regards to Pandas, Lyme, co-infections, vaccinations, supplementation, viruses, etc., who have got it all figured out for each and every patient. And these are good people. The nuances and complexities of these children's journey of healing is individual, and it does take a tremendous amount of research, thesis-style, to try to spin the straw into gold. And although we are patient enough to be safe, we are fully aware of the ticking clock of childhood and of some aperture closing...so we are bold, because we feel we have no other choice.
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Crying for you!! Tears of happiness! LOVE IT!!👯👯👯👯👯 happy dance!
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Dr Adam Pearl in Trumbull. He is excellent. Does not know pandas, but open, eager, smart and great bedside manner..
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Laura, I appreciate this research, as we are in the same wet boat. I keep thinking that once she is clear of underlying infection this will clear up as well, but the lazy comfort factor surely must be a player in this. So many things have improved for our dd, I am encouraged this will as well. But I think I gotta nudge this along more. When she was first put on biaxin for mycop she was dry 9 out of ten nights for a stretch, but that was short-lived. We are still pursing lexafloxicin once Dr T gives the high sign. Right now I am in wait and push mode with him. Thanks again for sharing this.
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Thanks for posting this. I thought I was past this one. Eesh. Had dd tested and dr b said, "she's fine.". But this post forced me to relook and she is heterozygous A1298C only. I found the below link on an MTHFR website for any of those who have kids like mine. I have been giving her methyl folate, titrating very slowly over 3 weeks. We are at about 400mcg as of Saturday. Coincidentially, she has had 2 dry nights in the last two days, and she has also struggled with this her since early childhood. I think she seems less anxious, but it could be all the other stuff we are doing as well. Would those who know more think I should continue supplementing w Methy folate? She also takes sublingual b12. ---------------------------- There is little known about the A1298C MTHFR mutation. Or so it seems. Research seems to ignore it almost completely while the C677T MTHFR mutation gets all the attention and glory. For those who have the A1298C MTHFR mutation, this is frustrating. Symptoms exist and doctors are saying there is no correlation between the MTHFR A1298C mutation and your symptoms – right? I’d like to prove them wrong – at least for the symptoms which do correlate with the A1298C MTHFR mutation. Lets’ get started. The MTHFR A1298C mutation can be serious – especially if you are either: Homozygous A1298C MTHFR mutation Compound heterozgous A1298C + C677T MTHFR mutation My current stance on the heterozygous MTHFR A1298C mutation is that it is very common and does not seem to pose too much concern unless there are other methylation or cytochrome mutations present. Obviously, if one leads a lifestyle which is unhealthy (smoking, high stress, toxic exposures) and consumes an unhealthy diet (refined carbs, processed meats, saturated fats), then having a heterozygous A1298C mutation may contribute to symptoms of cardiovascular disease, depression, fibromyalgia and others. Ever hear this?: Your homocysteine levels are fine. You’ve nothing to worry about. I know many doctors evaluate homocysteine only when it comes to MTHFR mutations. This is absolutely incorrect. Those with A1298C MTHFR mutations do not display elevated homocysteine unless they are combined with C677T. Even when combined with C677T MTHFR mutations, the A1298C types still do not tend to have very elevated homocysteine. Why is this? The MTHFR enzyme appears to contribute function in both two major pathways: BH4 and Methylation. The area which the A1298C MTHFR mutation works appears to disrupt function in the BH4 cycle. The BH4 cycle is absolutely critical for these various functions: assists the breakdown of phenylalanine helps form these neurotransmitters: Serotonin Melatonin Dopamine Norepinephrine (noradrenaline) Epinephrine (adrenaline) cofactor to produce Nitric Oxide (NO) assists breakdown of ammonia If your BH4 cycle is not working properly due to an A1298C MTHFR mutation, you are definitely going to be expressing some symptoms either mentally, emotionally or physically – or – all together. Once you understand the biochemical effects the A1298C MTHFR mutation causes, it becomes easy to identify possible problems. I am going to list possible symptoms, signs and conditions associated with A1298C MTHFR mutations. Keep in mind this is not a comprehensive list. I will add to it as I think of more (or you inform me of ones that I have omitted). Possible symptoms associated with A1298C MTHFR mutations: hypertension delayed speech muscle pain insomnia irritable bowel syndrome fibromyalgia chronic fatigue syndrome hand tremor memory loss headaches brain fog Possible signs associated with A1298C MTHFR Mutations: elevated ammonia levels decreased dopamine decrease serotonin decreased epinephrine and norepinephrine decreased nitric oxide elevated blood pressure muscle tenderness ulcers pre-eclampsia Possible conditions associated with A1298C MTHFR mutations: fibromyalgia chronic fatigue syndrome autism depression insomnia ADD/ADHD irritable bowel syndrome inflammatory bowel syndrome erectile dysfunction migraine Raynaud’s cancer Alzheimer’s Parkinson’s recurrent miscarriages There are certain dietary, lifestyle and supplemental recommendations that help reduce the effects of the A1298C MTHFR mutation. That is well beyond the scope of this article. There are a few nuances making it difficult to simply give flat recommendations for all who live with the A1298C MTHFR mutation. Remember, if you are homozygous A1298C or compound heterozygous MTHFR, the likelihood of your family members also having MTHFR mutations is very high. Get them tested! For now, I hope this is useful for you and has shed some light into your situation. Please do post questions, thoughts and comments below – and share this with your friends and family. Please Help Spread the Word!
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No nitrous oxide!
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Reporting on something that is helping us
coco replied to trggirl's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
I asked both dr b and dr t about amentadine, dr b did not offer too much, but dr t said it was used quite often in brain injury, and thought positively about it. Our conversation moved onto other things and I forgot to close the loop on that one. Next time I talk to him I will revisit. -
pyroluria test -- how do you get it
coco replied to smartyjones's topic in PANS / PANDAS (Lyme included)
Pyroluriatesting.com. By direct access health. It's a green backgrounded website. Go to the menu on the left, find pyroluria test, then kryptarole test. It is $80 and they will send you a urine collection test kit. Complete it and mail it back (I believe it can be mailed mon-wed for specimen purposes) all easy instructions are included. Within a week you will get labs emailed to you along with ranges, results, and there is a clinician available to speak to if you have questiions. You do not need any doctor's signature for this -
Dr T ran: Complete CBC Vit D Ferritin Total IGG/IGA Thyroid free t3 and t4 Streptoenzyme ASO DNAS Mycoplasma IGG/IGM Amino acids ANA Histamine Parvo EBV HSV 1 Lyme panel Lyme coinfections I have a kit for some genetic testing that we are considering. Also going to to NMDA receptor encephalitis which is a separate blood draw and mailing to Spain through univ of PA. Might as well rule it out. I think that's it. I just took her this morning and am going from memory. We did do pyroluria and MTHFR and that was negative.
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We had our appt today with neuro and I presented the abstract and discussed the various options for treating mycop. After presenting daughters IGG/IGM history, he concurred that we were dealing with chronic mycop. Asymptomatic other than neurological/pandas. This can be due to a dysregulated immune system and/or the mycop in an of itself. 10% of all mycop affects the brain. I told him we have been on augmentin, zithro, biaxin, minocin without lasting conditions. He then suggested cipro. I wasnt against cipro, but how about we try exactly what Was done in the study? I am so done with "maybe try this and see first" and think I'd like to follow the EXACT recipe. Doctor was enthusiastic 😊 about this research paper and he went to purchase and download the entire report then and there. I believe he knew one of the doctors and was impressed with the reputation of the group doing this research. As far as I can tell, there is no other research on this. In brief, 5 children with mycop were treated in ER with macrolides. All failed to respond within several days. The prevailing thought seemed to be if you don't see marked improvement in the first several days, you are not going to see more improvement in subsequent days. EEGs showed slow frontal lobe activity among other symptoms. Macrolides were stopped and IV levofloxacin was administered at 25g per kilo for 2 weeks. All symptoms abated and normal EEGs returned. There is no research to determine if levofloxacin can irradicate long term chronic mycop, but there is no reason to believe it can't. Whether or not normal neuro functioning can occur is the million dollar question, especially for those kids who have missed developmental milestones and permanent neurological damage results. I am personally a big believer in neuroplasticity, but that's another thread...hope has brought me this far! In summary, levofloxacin has a good safety record. There was a concern that it caused muscle/tendon lesions and was not recommended for growing children, but that was 15 years ago and is thought to be quite safe today. I would recommend you read the research. We are running additional labs and the doctor will review the research in detail, but as of today he is on board with giving it a shot. I am sorry the link I posted does not work. I purchased the article from my iPhone (don't even open the laptop anymore) and only had 24-hour access. It wouldn't allow me to do some functions from the iPhone and I ran out of time to play with it anymore. However, I have the hard copy full article today and my husband has scanned it into his computer, so I will be able to email it to anyone who would like it. Just pm me. I hope this becomes an answer for so many of us.
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So wonderful! I can see your proud smile!! Enjoy this honor with your family!!🌟
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Melanie, scroll down a bit to the original chronic mycoplasmas IGG Post, there you will find my complete post and link to full research article you can read, print and take to your doctor. Hope it helps. Pm me if you can't print it out for some reason.