Vaccines and autoimmunity

[peglem]

Found on PubMed- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1612651...p;ordinalpos=37

 

Infection, vaccines and other environmental triggers of autoimmunity.

 

Molina V, Shoenfeld Y.

 

Department of Medicine B and The Center for Autoimmune Diseases, Sheba Medical Center, Tel-Hashomer, Israel.

 

excerpt:

Vaccines, in several reports were found to be temporally followed by a new onset of autoimmune diseases. The same mechanisms that act in infectious invasion of the host, apply equally to the host response to vaccination. It has been accepted for diphtheria and tetanus toxoid, polio and measles vaccines and GBS. Also this theory has been accepted for MMR vaccination and development of autoimmune thrombocytopenia, MS has been associated with HBV vaccination.

 

I can't access the full text, but would love to see the bibliography for this article

[memom]

I have had an adult patient develop the autoimmune thrombocytopenia after an mmr booster. She was one sick mommy. Platelets dropped to almost nothing. Took many months to get better.

 

I am wondering if anyone on this board was a nonvaccinator for their kids? In other words, are there any Pandas kids who have never been vaccinated?

 

Ellie

[peagreen]

My daughter, who appears to have PANDAS, is unvaxed. Although she doesn't have a classic case of PANDAS (very little OCD, tics, or anxiety), she does have behavioral changes following illness, and had a CAMK score of 165 when she wasn't in an exacerbation. My son who was vaxed up to a year (no MMR) also has behavioral issues following illness, and has ADHD-type behaviors most of the time, had an almost normal CAMK at 118%, and low neuronal antibodies. He was also not in an exacerbation at the time of the draw, however.

 

Anyway, if my daughter really does have PANDAS, it appears that it CAN happen without vaccines, though I don't doubt that vaccines can trigger PANDAS and other immune system issues.

[thereishope]

If you don't mind me asking. With your unvaxed daughter, did you receive anything like a flu shot during pregnancy?

 

 

My daughter, who appears to have PANDAS, is unvaxed. Although she doesn't have a classic case of PANDAS (very little OCD, tics, or anxiety), she does have behavioral changes following illness, and had a CAMK score of 165 when she wasn't in an exacerbation. My son who was vaxed up to a year (no MMR) also has behavioral issues following illness, and has ADHD-type behaviors most of the time, had an almost normal CAMK at 118%, and low neuronal antibodies. He was also not in an exacerbation at the time of the draw, however.

 

Anyway, if my daughter really does have PANDAS, it appears that it CAN happen without vaccines, though I don't doubt that vaccines can trigger PANDAS and other immune system issues.

[peagreen]

Since my son was initially diagnosed on the Spectrum, we stopped all vaccines at the age of 1. By the time my daughter was born, we were already many years into treating my son through a DAN doc. Because of all this, my daughter did not get any vaccines, and I did not get any while pregnant with her, though I did get a flu shot while pregnant with my son (If I could only turn back time).

 

I think my kids were definitely born with underlying immune system vulnerabilities, and I firmly believe that had my son rec'd the MMR, he would have been unrecovereable. My daughter is a typical 3 year-old, as long as she stays on a certain diet, but her behavior does change after she is sick. She, like my son, becomes more sensory seeking, loopy, and hyper. But I think if we vaxed her, it would be much worse. I'm still trying to figure out if, in fact, she has PANDAS, and if so, what to do about it since she does not show signs of OCD, tics or anxiety...at least not yet.

 

Paula

[kim]

so many possibilities, but the current vaccination schedule as it stands is a horror story for some children and their families as far as I'm concerned. These are a couple of articles that I thought might be of interest

 

 

http://www.physorg.com/news179513271.html

 

Infants with severe T-cell lymphopenia (abnormally low level of white blood cells), including severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID), often appear normal at birth and have no family history of immunodeficiency. "Consequently, many infants with severe T-cell deficiencies are not identified until life-threatening infections occur. This is an important issue because the long-term prognosis of infants with SCID and other serious immunodeficiencies is markedly improved if the diagnosis is made early, before the onset of serious infections," the authors write. They add that the administration of some vaccines that are recommended in early infancy can cause serious infection in infants with T-cell lymphopenia, which could be avoided with early detection.

 

http://www.newsobserver.com/342/story/229183.html

 

DURHAM, N.C. — The last thing Wes and Melissa Klor want to do is rein in their son when he darts around like 18-month-old toddlers are apt to do.

 

Just six months ago, the couple had no hope their baby would ever walk, much less run.

 

As an infant, John Klor failed to reach normal physical milestones and was diagnosed with cerebral palsy.

 

But last summer, John was instead discovered to have a rare metabolic disorder that affected his ability to process protein, creating a toxic assault on muscle and brain function.

 

A fairly simple dietary change, along with supplements, resulted in a swift turnaround.