optimistic3 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hello Everyone, I came across products and am asking if anyone has used them or knows of them, and results.. Our Brief History: 8 year old with sudden onset of tics (vocal & motor) about 1.5 years ago. Tics have waxed & waned-simmered down somewhat and we have learned: Definite food sensitivities (so we modified diet--No Dairy, Gluten) Step & Pandas-- Strep may have started it all, and tic increase with strep. Other than difficulties with bowels, there are no other issues such as OCD, ADD etc.. There are allergies and we have cleaned house from temperpedic mattresses (no dust mites) to air filters etc.. Supplements--fish oil, probiotic, multi and upping the B vitamins lately. I believe it's a combination of everything that has helped. We have medical professionals in our family and have researched across the board. Son always tested negative by bloods and even the comprehensive stool lab was negative. We saw also alternative practitioners. Currently: a DAN doctor suggested a specific acupuncturist, who we saw in New York City. We were advised son has a liver issue. They called it too much "win" or "wind" in body, this is Eastern Diagnosis. He also has a "geographic" tongue, as do I. This is significant to Eastern practitioners. Herbs were given for liver support. Now at first we were skeptic of the herbs and held off. But now we came across more info on the liver and it's function inculding with detoxing. By way of researching we spoke with person who recommended "Liver Life" by BioRay company. The person I spoke with was one of the most informative and knowledgable person on tics and also autism I have ever spoken with. The issue of the body's PH level was of great importance to her. She has seen first hand the positve results of monitoring the PH levels and using the Liver Life product. Once the liver is functioning properly the body will not only detox it will also absorb nutrients better. The site is: www.bioray2000.com This product is also sold through "Ours Kids" website. Another DAN MD we saw using their vitamins and supplements. I contacted Our Kids and their rep said Liver Life is a popular product buit he also recommended "Kensho" for tics. See: http://www.ourkidsasd.com/products/2911 So my questions are: 1. Has anyone used this Liver Life product? Results? 2. Does anyone monitor the PH levels by use of urine strips? The site we were told to buy them is "PH-Ion.com" 3. Use of Kensho product for tics? 4. Lastly, we never did a "challenge test" with DMSA (a chelator). We have never used a chelator because bloods were tested to be normal. The two DAN Md's did not think we needed to do chelation, but now we are rethinking the process. The other highly recommended product was NDF Plus also by Bioray. It is a more natural chelator. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kim Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Optimistic3, I hope you will keep us posted on your experience with the products/treatments that you have mentioned. One thing that occurs to me, looking at Kensho, is that it contains things that many here have found beneficial but you might want to consider buying them individually. We use mag taurate, and have used GABA. By giving them individually if there is an negative reaction, you have a better chance of telling what seems to help and what might be causing a problem. I have never had a good handle on the PH stuff. Would love to hear what you learn. I have heard of Liverlife, and do believe that the liver function may be key in some circumstances. Again would like to hear follow up on your experience. Dr Amy's Yaslo's forum has a lot of discussion on liver support and herbs used for gut healing. You may find some discussion on Liverlife (or some of the things contained in it...I didn't look it up yet) here http://www.ch3nutrigenomics.com/phpBB2/ind...0579f6f7a4093bb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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