HopeinHIM Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 Hi I am still searching desperately for alternate "successful Bart/ Babs/ Pans treatment for my son. He is not thriving on the four anti b and many supplements. I have two of the best Docs and they are great and doing their best. The meds make him throw up almost daily. His stomach is a wreck. He looks like c#&%p and while the first few months there was great changes he took a turn and has been sliding fast for well over a month now. The nuero stuff is unbearable to watch and the physical symptoms are making him lose hope WE just think maybe???? he will do better the all natural route. Julie is supposed to be very knowledgeable but I will need some moral support along the way with this because its very foreign to us. I have been reading for the past 6 months on Lyme's and co infections and have concluded that not one thing works for everyone. We have been using natural AND meds so far with little success! I want an herbalist with a heart that can help walk us along in the healing. Share if you can! Please know that I am not judging anybody else's form of treatment choice here. Just trying to find out what's best for this child. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) I am now consulting with Julie on Buhner's bartonella and babesia protocols. When we weaned abx our LLMD admitted she knew little about herbal treatments, other than the canned Byron White and Cowden protocol tinctures that she sold. She didn't know much about those either, and because neither BW or Cowden worked for us I decided to use Buhner. Before contacting Julie I would advise purchasing and reading the books: Herbal Antivirals: Natural Remedies for Emerging & Resistant Viral InfectionsBy Stephen Harrod Buhner Healing Lyme Disease Coinfections: Complementary and Holistic Treatments for Bartonella and MycoplasmaBy Stephen Harrod Buhner Herbal Antibiotics, 2nd Edition: Natural Alternatives for Treating Drug-resistant BacteriaBy Stephen Harrod Buhner And reading and understanding the coinfections protocols listed on Buhner's website. In the books there is a large amount of information on the infections, how and why the bacteria/protozoa cause the damage they do, and why Buhner recommends the herbs he does. They also explain herbal preparation, which preparations are better for certain infections and have recommendations on trusted sources. You need to have a rudimentary understanding of treatment before you begin, or you will be wasting your time and Julie's. Because she is Buhner's associate, she doesn't stray far from the recommendations in the books, so you will lose nothing by reading and being prepared. I actually had DD up and running with the bartonella protocol before our first consult. It was quick and I had few questions. Julie did give me a couple of suggestions for brain inflammation not contained in the bartonella protocol but I didn't use them because by that time DD was holding her own and didn't need the extra anti-inflammatory support. Julie was more help to us when I added babesia herbs to our protocol (I did this myself, it wasn't a suggestion from Julie) resulting in a babesia herx and then a subsequent clinical diagnosis by our LLMD for babesia infection; although DD had previously tested negative for both microti and duncani through Igenex. I wasn't comfortable treating babesia simply from the protocol listed on the website and wanted more information. Buhner's babesia/ehrlichia/anaplasma coinfection book should be out next spring. But in the meantime we continue consulting with Julie. Natural Treatments for Lyme Coinfections: Anaplasma, Babesia, and EhrlichiaBy Stephen Harrod Buhner Julie appreciates the Excel charts (symptom vs protocol) that I record in daily (THANKS LLM!). If you want a template just ask. It makes protocol responses and herxes very understandable - much easier to communicate than if done verbally from written notes. DD wasn't looking the best when weaned from abx. Her stomach wasn't too bad because we have always supplemented with probiotics and fermented vegetables, but she was pale and not completely healthy looking. She is responding more naturally to herbs and looks better; more vigorous now, although we continue with probiotics as the herbs Buhner uses are very broadly antimicrobial (especially the babesia/protozoa herbs). If Julie is busy, which is happening more these days, Buhner has a few other consultants listed on his facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/stephen.buhner 1) I no longer see clients for herbal consultations. I recommend the following people: Julie McIntyre in Silver City, New Mexico (Julie@gaianstudies.org); 2) Tommy Priester in Lincoln, MA (tommy@hmithpy.com); Gordon Medical Associates in Santa Rosa, CA ((707) 575-5180); and Tim Sc...ott in Brattleboro, VT (Toll free: 877.591.1874 In VT: 802.246.1090) 2) In the EU/UK try: Peter ConwayThe WellSpring Clinic1 Clanricarde GardensTunbridge WellsKent TN1 1PE www.conwayherbalist.co.uk Peter Conway <herbalist1@mac.com>Landline from UK 01892676214 or mobile 07973417553 3) I do not sell herbs or protocols. I recommend woodlandessence.com; sagewomanherbs.com; elkmountainherbs.com; 1stchineseherbs.com; greendragonbotanicals.com, and MontanaFarmacy.com. 4. Herb companies In Canada (they also ship to the EU, as do some of the US companies but they have an easier time of it): Herbies-Herbs.com; and monteagleherbs.com. (Jef Victor Juel Martinussen, via facebook, may be useful for herbs in the EU, try him.) (NOTE: He posted on my timeline about a more direct route to contact him but I am having no success searching the timeline for the information. . . facebook is well facebook.) Edited November 4, 2014 by rowingmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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