cara615 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Has anyone every heard or tried this? i think you order it from Italy and its a 3 day process to make it. Very Very expensive but its supposed to do the same thing as a fecal implant. Essentially repopulating the gut with healthy bacteria. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) Here is a post I made on another forum about this product: I would definitely recommend anyone interested in this, but cannot afford it, to try milk kefir made from home (a fermented milk product). I spent 4.00 on the milk kefir grains and they are good indefinitely unless I kill them through poor upkeep (rather hard to do). The grains also multiply, so you can sell them or give them away to others interested in starting this. Then, all you have to spend is the money on whatever medium you wish to culture them in. I use whole pasteurized store bought milk. Kefir takes about 15 minutes of my time a day to make (24-48 hours for the culturing to be done), and it keeps quite a while. You use both the kefir made and the whey byproduct. You can culture kefir grains in whatever medium you wish. Diary milk, organic raw milk, almond milk, cream, colostrum (such as http://www.amazon.com/Symbiotics-Colostrum-Plus-Powder-21-Ounce/dp/B000BREOR2), etc..... Here is a general guideline of what bacteria and yeast are often found in most milk kefir cultures:BacteriaLactobacillus acidophilusLactobacillus brevisLactobacillus caseiLactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. bulgaricusLactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. delbrueckiiLactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. lactisLactobacillus helveticusLactobacillus kefiranofaciens subsp. kefiranofaciensLactobacillus kefiriLactobacillus paracasei subsp. paracaseiLactobacillus plantarumLactobacillus rhamnosusLactobacillus sakeLactococcus lactis subsp. cremorisLactococcus lactis subsp. lactisLactococcus lactisLeuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. cremorisLeuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. dextranicumLeuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. mesenteroidesStreptococcus thermophilusYeastsChamaerops humilisKazachstania unisporaKazachstania exiguaKazachstania exiguaKluyveromyces siamensisKluyveromyces lactisKluyveromyces marxianusPseudomonasPseudomonas fluorescensPseudomonas putidaSaccharomyces cerevisiaeSaccharomyces martiniaeSaccharomyces unisporushttp://www.culturesforhealth.com/differ ... gurt-kefir Edited February 2, 2014 by mayzoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowingmom Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Nice list. Thanks mayzoo! I have often thought of making kefir from grains, but went the fermented vegetable route instead as that seemed easier. Have you had better luck gut-wise with kefir made with grains as opposed to store-bought or kefir made with starter? I tried to look up the probiotic ingredients in Bravo, but didn't have much luck. They mentioned lactobacillius sp on their website, and then of course the bacterial/yeast species found in the kefir to which lacto starter is added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cara615 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 Would this be an issue if we are dairy free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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