Anyone try alternatives for treating Lyme & Bartonella?

[trintiybella]

Can you please tell me what protocol you have tried and if you have seen success? Thanks

[rowingmom]

We have been using Buhner's full bartonella protocol since Apr 2013 after discontinuing 2 years of abx treatment for bartonella. Here is a link to the protocol, but I really would suggest buying his book on the Mycoplasma and Bartonella coinfections:

 

http://buhnerhealinglyme.com/

 

BARTONELLA
Research is ongoing, this is the most up to date protocol:
• Sida acuta tincture (from Woodland Essence or julie@gaianstudies.org) ¼ tsp 3x day for 30 days
• Hawthorn tincture, same
• Japanese knotweed, (tincture, same dose (from same sources as Sida acuta, above), or capsules from Green Dragon Botanicals 2 capsules 3x daily)
• EGCG 400mg +- daily
• Houttuynia (Yu Xing Cao – 1st Chinese Herbs, powder – use “LYME” code at checkout for 10% off) 1 tbl daily
• L-arginine 5000 mg daily in divided doses
• Milk Thistle seed, standardized, 1200 mg daily
All for 30 days.
PLEASE NOTE: If you have active herpes, chicken pox, or shingles DO NOT USE L-arginine. see also: bartonella

 

We are not using l-arginine, as I think many of our kids are also dealing with viral infections.

 

After 7 months of this I added the combination tincture cryptolepis/sida/alchornea from WoodLandEssence. This produced a significant babesia herx which included chest pressure/air hunger and sighing. So now I know we are also dealing with a babesia-like-organism (protozoa) as well.

 

The doses DD is taking are lower than those outlined in the above protocol, but Buhner's associate said that as long as DD remains on the protocol for 1-2 years she will eventually eliminate the infections.

 

The effects of these herbs is real. They differ from antibiotics in that they contain multiple constituents, not single ones like abx (which the bacteria are quick to become resistant to).

 

DD is maintaining 98% improvement with no flares (just the odd herx from changing herb dosages) and has for the last 9 months.

 

Edited January 21, 2014 by rowingmom

[jennifer3]

We tried the Klinghart Cocktail for treatment of Chronic Lyme in our 16 year old son. After three months we didn't see any improvement. We were told that it could take up to eighteen months for the cocktail to show any benefit. Unfortunately, we didn't have that much time as he will be off to college soon! This cocktail is extremely expensive, very involved and tastes horrible. We would have been OK with all of that but we didn't have the time to mess around. We went the antibiotic route and my son is as good as new. Of course I would have preferred to treat the Lyme naturally but for our family this was a case where antibiotics were justified. Good luck!

[trintiybella]

How about doing both at the same time? There is no way I am going off abx. right now. I finally see SOME improvement after almost 13 years of trying everything.