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AAHH.. that other post that diappeared is now back... I'm so confused LOL!! It disappeared for over an hour. Sorry for the double up. Donna

Hi Kim I wrote out a big reply already, and posted it, but it didnt work. I must have pressed the post preview button instead by mistake. Ohwell, have to write it all again!! Apologies if two messages come through. The magnesium worked!! I bought a 300mg magnesium capsule (multiple types of magnesium in the one capsule. Yesterday I gave her 600mg magnesium when she got home from school, and another 600mg magnesium along with the 600mg calcium carbonate at bedtime. Last week she wet the bed 6/7 nights. I guess one dry night isn't enough evidence to support a scientific theory, but I will obviously keep trying. I was looking up the symptoms of magnesium deficiency and one of them is headaches. My daughter just has constant headaches all the time, they never go away. So I thought that perhaps it is magnesium deficiency that is causing it. For almost a year she has been having calcium each night which would have been using up the available magnesium in her body, leaving no magnesium left for her body to use. So I will do the 1200mg of magnesium a day until she starts having sleeping problems (which I read somewhere is a sign of too much magnesium). Gee you aren't using too many enzymes. My son was on houston enzymes about 3-4 years ago, and would always give atleast one peptizyde and one no-fenol with everything (I'd never bought zyme-prime). The no-fenol ws a miracle for us because my son was extremely phenol intolerant at the time, it was wonderful to be able to give him fruit again. My son (and daughter too) have since had allergy treatments at http://www.aaeclinics.com.au and my son can tolerate almost all food now without a reaction. My daughter still needs more treatments. No-fenols in my daughter would stop bedwetting more than other enzymes because in her they are caused by a phenol based intolerance. With the leaky gut, honestly I do not know what to do really. I only realised last week on Monday that she had leaky gut. I found a site that listed bedwetting and arthritis as symptoms, plus heaps of other things my daughter had. She is extremely carb addicted, so thought the change in diet might help. I also know she has candida as I treated it once with GSE and that caused her extreme itchiness (you can guess where), which was horrible. From now on will only use gentle yeast control methods, not some overkill like GSE in large amounts. Will do yeast killing very gently. I've bought that xylitol which is the natural sugar substitute that kills candida. So it's very nice to have a candida killer that tastes/well is just like sugar. Nystatin - my bottle of capsules has nearly run out. I will need to get a script for another bottle. I can't really comment on that because I havent been giving it regularly enough to be able to tell. Probiotics - I need to buy some more as I have three expired one in my fridge. With tics - you mentioned something about them. If your son has any visual tics look into the high dose vitamin A protocol. My ASD son was doing this eye squinting thing and we did the high dose vitamin A protocol a few weeks ago (and not properly either, I stopped as he got sick) and I haven't seem him squint his eyes since. He still has a headshaking and also head nodding problem, and even that has reduced (could be other things though). Definately if he has any visual tics, give the vitamin A thing a go. I hope I answered all your questions. Lets hope posting this message works. Donna

Thanks for replying too Kim :-) I found a 300mg magnesium capsule (multiple forms on magnesium in it). Gave her two capsules when she got home from school, and another two with her calcium carbonate at night. Was a success too. Since we've changed her diet she's wet the bed 6 out of the last 7 nights. Adding magnesium worked!! YAY!! Obviously one night isn't much of a scientific study LOL, but obviously we will keep going. There is a link between magnesium deficiency and headaches. My daughter just has constant headaches, they never go away. I was thinking that perhaps the caltrates (calcium carbonate 600mg) she has been taking for a year perhaps have been using all the magnesium in her body, and that she never had any left for her rest of her body. So for that reason, I will give her 600mg of magnesium in the morning before school from now on. Plus another 600mg at night with her 600mg of calcium. No idea it will make a difference in her headaches, but I think she might need it. Now that she is not eating grains, she is getting almost no magensium, so supplementing it seems the only way. It's worth a try I think. With the leaky gut. Well to be honest I know asmuch as you. I only realised a week ago that she has most of the symptoms of leaky gut (bedwetting is a symtom, as is arthritis, the funny way she breathes, her intolerance problems (allergic to everything). There was more too, but do a search on leaky gut symptoms and see if the symptoms match your child. I'm at a bit of loss as to what to do re the leaky gut. I did buy some sort of powder you mix in with a drink that is supposed to help heal the gut. I haven't started giving her probiotics yet, but I know I should. I guess I need to sit down and think about it. I thought by changing her diet to eliminate simple carbs like potato, rice, wheat that should help somewhat (I know eating like this makes me feel better). I know she has candida, and I have quite a few candida killers in my house. I bought that xylitol which is a natural sugar substitiute (made from strawberries and birch trees) that supposedly kills candida. So quite good eating something that tastes like sugar and having it elimate your candida problem. A few years ago we tried to aggressively treat candida in all of us with GSE (grapefruit seed extract) - what a mistake that was. We were all so so itchy (you can guess where). After that horrible experience I figured it was better to keep the candida inside, as it coming out was not a good thing LOL!! So any anti-candia regime I am going to use it going to be very gentle and slow. The GFCF diet made yeast worse in my son. Was a disaster. People seem to get more sensitive and more intolerant on it. That is my experience and my observation. Some people need the GFCF part of it, but all the sweet treats they give their kids on GFCF just make things worse in the gut. My sons gut got destroyed by 6 months GFCF, and was fixed by 6 months on houston enzymes with everything (and that was 1-2 peptizydes with each meal, aswell as 1-2 no-fenols, we never bought zyme-prime). Eventually with my daughter I might put her on all three houston enzymes for a while, to see if that helps her various problems. Both my children (actually I have another child in the middle with less problems, but still allergies to everything) have had allergy treatments at http://www.aaeclinics.com.au (I'm in Australia) and it has helped trememdously with their intolerances. Michael (the one with autism) can eat almost anything now, but the arthritis girl Hayley still needs lots more treatments. I'm nearly out of nystatin. I will try and get another script for it for my son (costs almost nothing to get it for him as because he is autistic he has a healthcare card and I can get cheap pharmaceutical medicines for him - just part of Australia's healthcare scheme). So when I get more nystatin, I will start giving it to Hayley too. I should buy a probitoic too (I have three expired ones in my fridge..sigh). I saw you mentioned about tics too. I've only just realised that my autistic son has some tics. He had one where he screws up one of his eyes. I did the high dose vitamin A protocol, and he seems to have stopped the eye squinting. Not sure if your son has any eye related tics, but if he has it's worth a try with the high dose vit A protocol. I hope I've answered your questions. It's lots of trial and error having kids with problems like this. I'll keep you informed as to how the magnesium/calcium combination is going. Donna Brisbane

Kim again You said: zinc depletion-enuresis? Ok which one is it? Calcium, magnesium,zinc? I'm saying: I don't think it is zinc. I've had my daughters copper:zinc ratio tested once and was very suprised to find it was normal (I have an ASD child aswell with a screwed up copper:zinc ratio) and she has a lot of the same problems as him (other than autism, she has arthritis which is bad too). I'll start supplementing the zinc (we have a nice vitamin c drink with high zinc in it, so it is easy to give) and see if that helps. I'll give the magnesium a week by itself and then add the zinc and see what happens. I've had enzymes give the bedwetting prevention effect in the past too. I think anything that prevents an allergic/intolerance reaction will help the bedwetting (if the bedwetting is caused an allergy). But I think the calcium needs magnesium to work and that is what our current problem is. With regard to the calcium and why it works - I think because it calms down allergic reactions (not sure how, but that is why it is recommened for kids with food allergies). Donna Brisbane

Hi Kim I hope you are still around to read this. I was the poster on the other board about the bedwetting and the calcium. Well we've just had had the calcium stop working. I've been researching and I think the reason is a magnesium deficiency. I've recently changed my daughters diet to be almost grain/carb free (a modifed SCD really but no nuts as she is allergic). We're doing this for leaky gut issues. Ofcouse all the magneisum containing foods are ones we've cut out of our diet now. She's also been taking calcium for a very long time now, and never had magnesium supplemented at all. By the sound of it, the amount of magnesium I'll need to supplement, must be either twice the amount of calcium or atleast asmuch as it. So for me that will be either 600mg or 1200mg. Haven't had much luck finding high levels of magnesium in capsules (she wont swallow tablets, but will swallow capsules). That's my current theory anyway as to why the bedwetting is back. I'll get back to you and let you know if a high dose of magesium keeps the bedwetting under control again. Donna Brisbane ..quote from Kim.. The same poster from the other board who originally posted about this, added the message, that the calcium used, has to be Calcium Carbonate. She said the calcium carbonate had only failed twice in 8 months, because she thought they had forgotten to give. She said when they tried calcium citrate, it did not work at all. ..end quote..