help! complete meltdown.... tantrum/rage

[earnestfamily7]

OK.... my daughter completely melted down this evening again!... I am not even sure meltdown is the word... of she were an adult I would say verge of mental breakdown....

 

she had a decent day behavior wise.... until tonight. she always seems fine and then BAM out of no where she goes from acting out to full out meltdown.... does anyone else see this kind of behavior.... literally out of control.... The kids and husband were watching a show... I was putting the 2yo to bed - I came down and I could tell she was teetering on the verge of something.... she got very ancy... wouldnt watch the show- teasing her brother (the kind of stuff you see kids do for attention... taking his toys/teddy... before you know it she was throwing food - spilling drinks - (took 2 liter bottles of pop and was pouring them on the floor - opened the bottle of children motrin liquid (even though it had a child-proof cap) spilled it on the floor and rolled in it... I watched her carefully as I was scared she was going to start licking it.... she kept saying no one loved her and that she would never be happy again -

 

This is so different from my son w/PANDAS - he exasperated with bad thoughts (his term) but never acts on them - the thoughts scare him.... but with her it is like the 'bad thoughts' come in her head and she cant move on unless she acts on them --- it is SCARY!!!

 

I think I posted last week that the psycharist recommeded respiderol as need for agitation .25 mg and said she is likely dealing w/ ODD (oppositonal defiant disorder) but seemed unsure on it.... she said to only give it when we felt she needed it... what do you think

 

- she was put on 259MG /5ML susp CEFDINIR - takes 8ML 1x/day..... this morning (current strep)

 

any suggestions? any similar tantrum/rage like behaviors

 

 

My heart is breaking and I am beginning to get so confused over all of this!

[thereishope]

My son would have meltdowns and rages.Unfortunately, that is not uncommon. My son had ODD as well. There were times I had to grab him, sit on the floor and bear hig him until it ran its course. I'd just sit there crying, saying over and over " Mommy loves you". He would also get physical with hitting, punch, kicking, pulling at my clothes.

 

Try to find patience. Don't scold or reprimand for it. It really is out of their control. Have you given her some Ibuprofen? If not, give her some and it may ease the symptoms.

 

Hopefully the antibiotics will work soon and you will see some improvement. Stay strong.

[MomWithOCDSon]

I have to say, in our limited (3 months') experience, the meltdowns have been the most positively impacted by the antibiotics. While some of the other behaviors have come and gone, the abx has definitively reduced the number of meltdowns we see, as well as the length, duration and ferocity of the ones our son still experiences on occasion.

 

Hang tough, and keep a journal. Odds are that you'll begin to see a pattern of diminishing rages, meltdowns, frustrations and freak-outs.

[smartyjones]

came down and I could tell she was teetering on the verge of something.... she got very ancy... wouldnt watch the show- teasing her brother (the kind of stuff you see kids do for attention... taking his toys/teddy... before you know it she was throwing food - spilling drinks -

 

This is so different from my son w/PANDAS -

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sounds like you know what it is and are getting treatment so i have nothing to add to that except to reassure you that my son did have whacked behavior like what you are describing.

 

one weekend that was the worst, we were in the grocery store and he was totally out of control - grabbing, running, laughing. i took him out and he was very upset that he wasn't in there to check out with his brother and father. we had a rational conversation about being calm and using nice manners. we got to the car and he flew over the seat and began honking the horn like a madman and laughing.

 

as far as the teasing - i saw it once written, 'seems to deliberately annoy' and that's what he would do - kind of in a challenging way to me.

 

good luck with the treatment. i didn't know about ibuprofen then but it may work for you.

[tantrums]

WOW! I have to say that sounds nearly identically to the rages we had seen! Especially the "no one loves me" comments. My DS is 6 and had his first episode and was promptly diagnoses (SOOO very lucky I know) and has responded well to abx. I haven't seen a rage like that, but we still get little hints of it that are extremely brief - or he will do one nasty thing. But he still will run to his room crying that we don't love him with little or no provocation.

 

I agree with not reacting too much and trying to remember it's not in their control. I tried giving DS ibuprofen after reading that here, but only got it thrown in my face each time. I'd have to wait until he was somewhat calmer to even attempt it.

 

Currently, we are nearly done with a 2 month course of abx, pretty stable except for some mood liability and I'm living in fear of "what now?". But hopefully you can at least get to this stage of some reasonable calm so you can catch your breath!