norcalmom Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) Ever since reading Bruhners book, I've been interested in herbs- but- which ones to use in pandas is a complex question. His book talks about stopping the cytokine cascade in infection, but which cytokines to up regulate and which to down regulate with pandas specifically is difficult to say. Below are two articles I found this morning regarding research on which herbs to what to which cytokines, and another article on cytokines in Sydenham Chorea- closest thing to pandas I could find, and unfortunately I can only see the abstract. I thought that some of you using herbs or researching cytokines may find it interesting, and please let us know if you've tried anything on the list and your experience! http://www.anaturalhealingcenter.com/documents/Thorne/articles/Cytokine.pdf http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12620654/ Edited July 29, 2013 by norcalmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MomWithOCDSon Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Thanks for the first (the second link doesn't work for me)! I am not well-versed in the herb protocols at all, but we have found some help over the years with some herbals like valerian root and olive leaf. Looking forward to reading this thoroughly and hearing others' experiences! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalmom Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 I edited the post above to a different link to the same abstrac (link was broken) t- see if that works for you. Thanks- sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dedee Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) We are currently working on the cytokine cascade with the help of our LLMD. She suggested Buhner's book and wanted us to address this with our daughter. The first thing we have introduced is by Dr. Amy Yasko and is called "Cytokine Balance Inflammatory Pathway RNA". It is a little expensive but it goes a long way. We have been using it only about a 4 days but it does seem to be helping to calm our daughter. You have to start slowly so we can still increase. Right now we are giving 3 drops in water 3 times daily. The good thing about this for us is that it is tasteless, which is huge with our dd because she won't take liquids with a taste. I have ordered Japanese Knotweed, which was suggested by our LLMD as was Cordyceps and Chinese Skullcaps. We will wait a few more days before starting the Knotweed. I have heard good things about the Japanese Knotweed but I'm not sure how it plays out in strep. I have heard that many of the cytokines released with lyme are the same as with strep, thus similiar symptoms. I can't say that I know this with 100% certainity. I do think you are on the right track trying to address symptoms through cytokine control though. Keep us updated on any progress. Dedee Edited July 29, 2013 by Dedee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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