Probiotics for OCD?

[pgoody]

I'm guessing that antibiotics are commonly used for PANDAS particularly in the cases of strep and lymes disease. Has anyone ever tried solely using probiotics to treat their or their relative's OCD? I have read some articles discussing the condition of one's gut flora and it's impact on one's mental state. This discussion exists in the autism gut and brain connection material, which sort of indicates that "poor gut flora" could impact one's immune response and give symptoms of autism or OCD. I am considering purchasing some coconut milk kefir and drinking some daily as a sort of "probiotic" dose for my OCD. I feel if an individual has a bacterial infection that antibiotics might be the only way to fight it, but maybe a natural probiotic wouldn't hurt if you are using those anyways.

Edited May 18, 2013 by pgoody

[MomWithOCDSon]

We used abx for 2 years and initially started probiotics only in conjunction with the abx therapy . . . to ward off negative gut impacts of the abx. But even once we'd stopped abx, we stuck with the probiotics, though at a lower dose than before.

 

I've read that lactobillus gg (Culturelle) is especially effective for increasing serotonin production in the gut, and thus fighting depression and similar issues. I completely believe that a healthy gut is more likely to help provide, in turn, for a healthy brain.

 

We continue with lactobillus and sach b. today.

[pgoody]

I just bought kefir from the whole foods section of my local grocery store. I think there are better kinds out there and I hear a lot of people buy the grains online and have them home made and I think I will look into doing that. Apparently it's a really good source of probiotics. Here's what the website listed for the one I bought:

 

"contains Lactobacillius Lactis

Lactobacillus Rhamnosus

Streptococcus Diacetylactis

Lactobacillus Plantarum
Lactobacillius Casei
Saccharomyces Florentinus
Leuconostoc Cremoris
Bifidobacterium Longum
Bifidobacterium Breve
Lactobacillus Acidophilus
Bifidobacterium lactis
Lactobacillus reuteri

 

Apparently there are strains of Streptoccus in kefir, which bothers me a bit considering strep causes PANDAS, but I guess that is a specific strain called "Group A-hemolytic strepococcus" or GAS. This Diacetylactis kind is something, according to the producers website, that is typically in sour cream.

Edited May 19, 2013 by pgoody

[Mayzoo]

I just bought kefir from the whole foods section of my local grocery store. I think there are better kinds out there and I hear a lot of people buy the grains online and have them home made and I think I will look into doing that. Apparently it's a really good source of probiotics. Here's what the website listed for the one I bought:

 

"contains Lactobacillius Lactis

Lactobacillus Rhamnosus

Streptococcus Diacetylactis

Lactobacillus Plantarum

Lactobacillius Casei

Saccharomyces Florentinus

Leuconostoc Cremoris

Bifidobacterium Longum

Bifidobacterium Breve

Lactobacillus Acidophilus

Bifidobacterium lactis

Lactobacillus reuteri

 

Apparently there are strains of Streptoccus in kefir, which bothers me a bit considering strep causes PANDAS, but I guess that is a specific strain called "Group A-hemolytic strepococcus" or GAS. This Diacetylactis kind is something, according to the producers website, that is typically in sour cream.

 

I bought kefir grains online and I make home made kefir. It is super easy to make and use up. This whole site has been a wonderful resource for me: http://www.culturesforhealth.com/kefir#kefir_articles_recipes_videos

 

We use it in smoothies, dressings, and I recently made kefir butter. I have also lately been using the unflavored kefir in place of mayonnaise on my lunch wraps (tortilla, veggies, meat) and home made burgers. I use store bought whole milk for the grains to culture since none of us have milk allergies.

 

If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or PM me.

[Mayzoo]

 

I just bought kefir from the whole foods section of my local grocery store. I think there are better kinds out there and I hear a lot of people buy the grains online and have them home made and I think I will look into doing that. Apparently it's a really good source of probiotics. Here's what the website listed for the one I bought:

 

"contains Lactobacillius Lactis

Lactobacillus Rhamnosus

Streptococcus Diacetylactis

Lactobacillus Plantarum

Lactobacillius Casei

Saccharomyces Florentinus

Leuconostoc Cremoris

Bifidobacterium Longum

Bifidobacterium Breve

Lactobacillus Acidophilus

Bifidobacterium lactis

Lactobacillus reuteri

 

Apparently there are strains of Streptoccus in kefir, which bothers me a bit considering strep causes PANDAS, but I guess that is a specific strain called "Group A-hemolytic strepococcus" or GAS. This Diacetylactis kind is something, according to the producers website, that is typically in sour cream.

 

I bought kefir grains online and I make home made kefir. It is dirt cheap and super easy to make and use up. This whole site has been a wonderful resource for me: http://www.culturesforhealth.com/kefir#kefir_articles_recipes_videos

 

We use it in smoothies, dressings, and I recently made kefir butter. I have also lately been using the unflavored kefir in place of mayonnaise on my lunch wraps (tortilla, veggies, meat) and home made burgers. I use store bought whole milk for the grains to culture since none of us have milk allergies.

 

Kiddo has not has any poor reaction since starting it, so for her anyway, the strep in it is not a bad kind. If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or PM me.

[Mayzoo]

 

 

I just bought kefir from the whole foods section of my local grocery store. I think there are better kinds out there and I hear a lot of people buy the grains online and have them home made and I think I will look into doing that. Apparently it's a really good source of probiotics. Here's what the website listed for the one I bought:

 

"contains Lactobacillius Lactis

Lactobacillus Rhamnosus

Streptococcus Diacetylactis

Lactobacillus Plantarum

Lactobacillius Casei

Saccharomyces Florentinus

Leuconostoc Cremoris

Bifidobacterium Longum

Bifidobacterium Breve

Lactobacillus Acidophilus

Bifidobacterium lactis

Lactobacillus reuteri

 

Apparently there are strains of Streptoccus in kefir, which bothers me a bit considering strep causes PANDAS, but I guess that is a specific strain called "Group A-hemolytic strepococcus" or GAS. This Diacetylactis kind is something, according to the producers website, that is typically in sour cream.

 

I bought kefir grains online and I make home made kefir. It is dirt cheap and super easy to make and use up. This whole site has been a wonderful resource for me: http://www.culturesforhealth.com/kefir#kefir_articles_recipes_videos

 

We use it in smoothies, dressings, and I recently made kefir butter. I have also lately been using the unflavored kefir in place of mayonnaise on my lunch wraps (tortilla, veggies, meat) and home made burgers. I use store bought whole milk for the grains to culture since none of us have milk allergies.

 

Kiddo has not has any poor reaction since starting it, so for her anyway, the strep in it is not a bad kind. If you want some grains, PM me, I have one spare batch that have been frozen you can have. They can be converted use any kind of milk you want, it just takes a few times to let them get used to the new "milk". If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or PM me.

 

[Mayzoo]

I bought kefir grains online and I make home made kefir. It is dirt cheap and super easy to make and use up. This whole site has been a wonderful resource for me: http://www.culturesforhealth.com/kefir#kefir_articles_recipes_videos

 

We use it in smoothies, dressings, and I recently made kefir butter. I have also lately been using the unflavored kefir in place of mayonnaise on my lunch wraps (tortilla, veggies, meat) and home made burgers. I use store bought whole milk for the grains to culture since none of us have milk allergies.

 

Kiddo has not has any poor reaction since starting it, so for her anyway, the strep in it is not a bad kind. If you want some grains, PM me, I have one spare batch that have been frozen you can have. They can be converted use any kind of milk you want, it just takes a few times to let them get used to the new "milk". If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or PM me.