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Hello again Juwaryriyah,

 

I am so sorry to have taken so long to come and tell you of our news. We found the plant in a Northern Australia plant nursery! We dried and ground it and my grandson swallowed it in water. The magic happened within the hour and he had five or so tics for the whole day. The intrusive thoughts that he always has were completely gone as well as his O.C.D. His anxiety and rage was reduced by 90% and we were all delighted. But as the days wore on the effects lessened more and more until we finally realised the material has lost its efficacy. We managed to get some more freshly dried leaves and noticed an immediate improvement. That material is now not giving us the results it once did even though we have stored the dried and powdered leaf in vacumn sealed pouches.

 

Rereading your previous posts it seems as though we need to dry and use it within days or perhaps juice the fresh green leaves and freeze it? My grandson weighs 60 kgs. How many leaves are in one of your capsules please? How many leaves did you juice for each green juice dose please? We are almost there and so very, very grateful for your experience and advice. Kindest regards, Joy

 

P.S. We will have it in our garden by the end of April!

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Hi Juwayriyah

 

I am from Spain and my 7 years son has tics. He is in a gluten and milk free diet (and taking suplements) and he is much better. I have got here a plant of Clerodendrum inermis in a nursery. By now i don´t want to use it, but if things go wrong...

 

I post you because i want to be sure that this plant is clerodendrum inermis ( i have found it only in one nursery in Spain and i have my doubts because by now it hasn´t any flowers).

 

Could you say me if it is Clerodendrum inermis

 

 

I know i can get the plant in the Canary Islands in this nursery

 

http://www.canarius.com/es/plantas/volkameria-inermis.html

 

but in this case i must wait for it and take care with the customs because they must send it by airplane

 

Thank you for every one who share his information to treat this condition, because in Spain there are few practitioners who treats tourette syndrome in other ways.

 

Thank you very much Juwayriyah

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Hi Castrum,

 

Juwayriyah mentioned in an earlier post that the plant does not flower all the time. The name is Clerodendrum inerme and is also known as Volkameria inermis. Buy that plant very quickly!

 

Common name: koinal, Glory Bower, Indian privet, Seaside clerodendrum, Wild Jasmine, Sorcerers Bush •Hindi: chhoti-ari, संकुप्पी sankuppi, sangan-kuppi, vilayati mehendi, batraj • Marathi: sangam, वनजाई vanajai, sirit-mari • Tamil: சங்கம் Sangam, Peechangu, அந்ஜலீ Anjali • Malayalam: nirnochi, shangam-kuppi • Telugu: erup-pichha, pisangi, pishinika, takkolapu-chettu • Kannada: naitakkilay, itteru, kundali gida, naayi tekkake, thakkalika • Bengali: বনজাঈ Banajai • Oriya: vଅନଜାଈ Vanajai • Urdu: گل دمدم Guldamdam • Sanskrit: कुंडली Kundali

Botanical name: Clerodendrum inerme Family: Verbenaceae (Verbena family),

Synonyms: Volkameria inermis

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HI Joyle, I've been following you trying to source this plant and am v happy that you've been able to get one. Im also in Australia and would love to get hold of this plant to see if it can help my son with his tics.

how are you going with dosages etc. Is it still working??

Are you able to give me the details of the nursery where you bought this please?

Thankyou 

Lyn

 

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Hi Joyle and Juwairah,

Thanks for your suggestions. My kid has some tics and I have easily procured a C.Inerme plant in India.

I am skeptical to try it on him directly. So I might have on myself for a few days and then give it to him. He is 20 Kgs and 6 years so his dosage should be much less I guess. Did it have any side effects with you guys?

 

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Hello Lyn, 

 

Yes, the plant is really working for my 22 year old grandson!  He has extreme Tourette's syndrome with all the comorbids including OCD, ADHD, anxiety and Tourette's rage and unfortunately copralalia.  They are all down by 90% so all greatly diminished.  He is very comfortable in his own body now and his mind is clear and focussed.  Please send me a private message if you want to.  You can do that by clicking on my profile.

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Hi Nie,  The thing with this plant is that if you don't have Tourette's there doesn't seem to be a huge effect.  Recently I received a bunch of fresh, green leaves and I put 100 leaves with some water in a blender and my sister and I drank it.  That seems to be the dose.  Juwayriyah' little boy was 7 when he took 50 leaves and my sister and I who weigh around 70 kgs took the same.   We both felt very mild and peaceful.  My sister stopped her finger fidgeting (she doesn't have Tourette's) but other than that nothing at all.  

 

Having said that I am still pondering wether, if the dose was halved for a small child and the trial period therefor lengthened if the result wouldn't still happen .... but it would just take twice as long?  Maybe with lessened dieback/detox symptoms.  That is the decision you need to make for yourself.  

 

The only side effects we have had is a dose of diarrhoea on one occasion.  The other side effect is that Clerodendrum inerme acts like an antibiotic in that it kills off the gut flora.  We gave our young man some good probiotics and sauerkraut, and kefir to repopulate his gut with the good bacteria, just like we would if we ever have no choice but to use antibiotics. 

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Hi nrr, 

Clerodendrum Inerme is a subtropical plant and so it will be difficult but not impossible to grow it in temperate or cooler regions. I also live in a cold region in Australia.  My husband has built a small, insulated 2X2m room and added lights, heat and airflow. Our five 10 week old baby plants have 8 hours under the lights, 6 extra hours in daylight and ten hours in the dark.  Our temperature has gone down to 4°C overnight in the garage so that's why the plants need help.  They are growing slowly and we hope to see a growth spurt come the Spring! 

I have emailed a friend in Hawaii who managed to import two small plants from the U.S. two months ago.  Unfortunately that nursery doesn't have any or another nursery in California which is also out of stock.  I have asked her to inquire if they plan to get more in. 

 

Meanwhile keep looking for it because it is worth the trouble.

regards, Joyle

 

Here's a nursery in The Canary Islands that has it in stock and ships worldwide! 

http://www.canarius.com/en/plants/volkameria-inermis.html

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5 hours ago, Joyle said:

Hi nrr, 

Clerodendrum Inerme is a subtropical plant and so it will be difficult but not impossible to grow it in temperate or cooler regions. I also live in a cold region in Australia.  My husband has built a small, insulated 2X2m room and added lights, heat and airflow. Our five 10 week old baby plants have 8 hours under the lights, 6 extra hours in daylight and ten hours in the dark.  Our temperature has gone down to 4°C overnight in the garage so that's why the plants need help.  They are growing slowly and we hope to see a growth spurt come the Spring! 

I have emailed a friend in Hawaii who managed to import two small plants from the U.S. two months ago.  Unfortunately that nursery doesn't have any or another nursery in California which is also out of stock.  I have asked her to inquire if they plan to get more in. 

 

Meanwhile keep looking for it because it is worth the trouble.

regards, Joyle

 

Here's a nursery in The Canary Islands that has it in stock and ships worldwide! 

http://www.canarius.com/en/plants/volkameria-inermis.html

Thank you so much!!!!

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On 2017-4-30 at 11:54 AM, Joyle said:

Hi Castrum,

 

Juwayriyah mentioned in an earlier post that the plant does not flower all the time. The name is Clerodendrum inerme and is also known as Volkameria inermis. Buy that plant very quickly!

 

Common name: koinal, Glory Bower, Indian privet, Seaside clerodendrum, Wild Jasmine, Sorcerers Bush •Hindi: chhoti-ari, संकुप्पी sankuppi, sangan-kuppi, vilayati mehendi, batraj • Marathi: sangam, वनजाई vanajai, sirit-mari • Tamil: சங்கம் Sangam, Peechangu, அந்ஜலீ Anjali • Malayalam: nirnochi, shangam-kuppi • Telugu: erup-pichha, pisangi, pishinika, takkolapu-chettu • Kannada: naitakkilay, itteru, kundali gida, naayi tekkake, thakkalika • Bengali: বনজাঈ Banajai • Oriya: vଅନଜାଈ Vanajai • Urdu: گل دمدم Guldamdam • Sanskrit: कुंडली Kundali

Botanical name: Clerodendrum inerme Family: Verbenaceae (Verbena family),

Synonyms: Volkameria inermis

Hi Joyle

 

Thank you so much Joyle for your answer. I bought the plant but i don´t want to give it to my boy until i am sure. Yesterday i could see the first flower and it is like in the photos. It looks like Clerodendrum inerme. The only difference is that the leaves and the flower of the shrub are smaller than the ones I have seen in internet images; I do not know if this is because it is a young shrub. I planted it in my father-in-law's garden and created cuttings.

 

I have eaten 5 leaves without any reaction; I attach images of "my clerodendrum". Please could you tell me if you think if it is Clerodendrum Inerme.

 

Thank you very much. 

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Hi Castrum,

I am so very pleased you have been able to source the plant!  It does look like Clerodendrum inerme but of course I can't say for sure from a photo.  That does certainly look like the flowers we have seen.  The nurseryman where we first found it in Australia made the comment that the leaves are a different shape when growing naturally in the wild than when it has been cultivated in a nursery.  The plant is mainly in flower but not always.  The flowers can smell so sweet that it is popular for perfuming various potions.  The leaves in the other hand can smell revolting ... like cat urine 😳  very, very early in the morning!  

I have also sent you a private message! 

Kind regards, Joyle

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Just wanted to say I'm following this thread! I'm in the US (east coast) and want to hear of any updates! :) Maybe someone will find a way to produce a dried product in small batches and ship?  Wishful thinking.

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