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EAmom (hey have you read your PM's lately?),


I think you posted the article about adjuvants and repeated immunization overcoming OAS. Maybe that is why the the newer HPV vaccine has over double the adjuvant.



225 mcg AAHS (aluminum adjuvant) 500 mcg


wondering how this might play out too




African American women are more likely than white women to have HPV strains not included in current vaccines.


"the most disconcerting part of this new vaccine is it doesn't include HPV 35, 66, and 68, three of the strains of HPV African-American women are getting the most." The benefit for African American women might still be limited.



Limited or worsened in light of OAS?


another worry

(bolding mine)


The great worry is that even if strains 16 and 18 were neutralised by the vaccine, other virus strains might become more active.

This is a very important point because it appears that most infections are “mixed”, that is they consist of a number of HPV strains (see “HPV Vaccination - More Answers, More Questions” by George F. Sawaya, M.D., and Karen Smith-McCune, M.D., Ph.D. in the New England Journal of Medicine 356:1991-1993).

We also don’t know if the vaccine-produced immunity will last, nor if and when booster shots might be needed. Further, there are fears that an immunity created early in life might allow for more virulent reactions in later years. And Gardasil is a genetically engineered vaccine; it also contains a high amount of aluminium adjuvant which is known to be responsible for very serious reactions in other vaccinations



A sad story that many here can probably relate to

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California lawmakers on Thursday approved one of the toughest mandatory vaccination requirements in the nation, moving to end exemptions from state immunization laws based on religious or other personal beliefs.

The measure, among the most controversial taken up by the Legislature this year, would require more children who enter day care and school to be vaccinated against diseases including measles and whooping cough.
Those with medical conditions such as allergies and immune-system deficiencies, confirmed by a physician, would be excused from immunization


I wonder what it takes to show an immune system deficiency.


Looking for a silver lining - perhaps more people may ask to be tested for immune system deficiencies (say, IgG subclasses, etc.?) and the extent of such deficiencies will be elucidated? Will this encourage parents to request, and argue if necessary, for such testing? In what sort of a bind would a request for immune testing (say, in a child with non-standard symptoms or no symptoms) put the doc who wants to decline the request?

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  • SB277 passed the CA Assembly yesterday by a 46-30 vote, but it is NOT YET A LAW. Eight Democrats changed their position from Yes to No as a result of INTENSE efforts by California citizens. The bill now has to go back to the Senate to be voted on again (due to amendments). If it passes the Senate (which it likely will), it will go to Governor Brown. There's a huge letter/fax/postcard writing campaign happening NOW to convince Gov. Brown to veto.


    If you are in CA and haven't joined the fight yet, please go to "Our Kids Our Choice - Oppose SB277" on Facebook and help with this effort (you have to join - it's a private group). It's not over yet!

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SB277 just passed the CA Senate and now goes to Governor Brown's desk. If you live in CA and don't want the government forcing you to vaccinate your child (and your grandchildren!) with whatever they say, whenever they demand it, PLEASE write and call Gov. Brown! This bill will not allow any child missing even one vaccine to attend public or private school, and it will not allow homeschoolers and Independent Study kids into a classroom of any sort, even if its through your homeschool program.


Governor Jerry Brown

c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173

Sacramento, CA 95814


Ph: 916-445-2841

Fax: 916-558-3160

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