Fermented Foods vs. Yasko Glutamate

[TeamTyrion]

Like many here I am interested in increasing the good bacteria in my child's gut through the use of fermented foods, which is supposedly more effective than probiotics. However, I have read in Yasko's "Autism: Pathways to Recovery" that fermentation results in increased glutamate in the body (fermentation results in protein break-down and any protein break-down creates glutamate). Excess glutamate is a big deal in her opinion and can have significant neurological effects when the gaba/glutamate balance is thrown off.

 

Just wondering if the benefits of fermented foods outweigh this potential glutamate issue and if anyone here has had success with introducing fermented foods into their or their children's diet?

 

 

[SSS]

I know my dd9 won't eat fermented vegetables, and I don't give yogurt with the strep strain probiotic (is cultured yogurt like fermented? Obviously I've never cultured yogurt.)

 

But, glutamate is an issue here. If I supplement Gaba, bad effects.

My dd9 is back in treatment, therefore I almost have her off Risperadone (tiny, tiny dose left),

but recently I tried Lamictal, because frankly I was scared to go off a mood stabilizer all together,

AND, lamictal modulates glutamate.

Long story short, I decided not to go with Lamictal, but the small introduction I did with it,

I really saw a difference with glutamate being modulated/ down graded.

Now, recently had amino acid test results, it says glutamate is fine. I don't get it.

I have an appt. w/ a PANS specialist in a few days, going to bring this up,

but the other thing for glutamate blocking is an Alzheimer's drug, I don't want that either.

*sigh* so I ordered PharmaNac again, since need detox anyway, and it's also a cyst buster according to Buhner, and we are back in Lyme tx. And it stopped skin picking before.

 

Sorry so long. Anyone out there, need glutamate info too!

[pr40]

i read the opposite of what you say and you say that fermented food is supposedly more effective than probiotics. for gut flora, get several good probiotics and rotate them, including besides many strains of the acidophylus various bifidus. some kids don't do well on Saccharomyces, if yours does, thats another one to do.

L-gutamine aids stomach lining, if I understand that one correctly.

I am not sure what probiotics and l-glutamine have to do with glutamate.

[SSS]

pr40

http://dogtorj.com/faqs-links/glutamate-vs-glutamine/

[TeamTyrion]

Yasko discusses the whole glutamate thing quite extensively in Chapter 4 of : Autism: Pathways to Recovery

 

FYI - She mentions that glutamine is not recommended in supplements as it readily converts to glutamate.

 

I feel that glutamate is a big issue, but that his gut problems are an even BIGGER issue. Hence my dilemma with this whole fermented food thing. I believe (tho please correct me if I'm wrong anyone) that yogurt is considered a fermented food. And kefir. I must say that my ds did not react well to kefir and muscle testing confirmed he is sensitive to it.

And then I have to question, is this a die-off thing or a glutamate thing?? Why does everything have to be so complicated eh?