qannie47 Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 http://organic3.com/gutpro/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qannie47 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 OMG....just realized that my ds's Pandas flare stared 2 days after switching to new probiotic, NOT THE ABOVE newly recommend one listed above. The current one is Florastor...anybody know if it contains Strep???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexMom Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 We use Florastor. I'm not sure if it contains strep, but the GI doctor told us it is one of the only probiotics that has documented studies behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LexMom Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 I rethought this. I don't believe Florastor contains strep because the doc told us it is a yeast, not a bacteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoyBop Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 You could always switch to another and see if it gets better. Also make sure you leave at least 3 hours between anti and probiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qannie47 Posted September 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 just checked Kefer Probiotic smoothie...ds has been drinking tons of it in the past week....filled with tons of bacteria, but don't know if it is strep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNN Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Florastor is Sacc Boulardis. My DS gets incredibly angry, impulsive, hyper and gets terrible OCD from Sacc B. I know it's supposed to be a "good" yeast and some people like it because you can take it close to abx, but for us, it's a huge trigger. His stool test came back negative for candida but positive for Sacc B. Once we started treating with diflucan, his OCD was gone in 3 days and the rest of his behaviors have vastly improved over the past month. Stop the Sacc B and switch to a probiotic high in bifido cultures (we use this one http://kirkmanlabs.com/ProductKirkman/333/1/Bifido%20Complex%E2%84%A2%20Advanced%20Formula%20-%20Hypoallergenic%20-%20New,%20Improved%20Formula/). Bifido is the dominant probiotic in mother's milk. If you still don't see improvement in a week or so, ask your doctor about diflucan or nystatin. I can't tell you how much a yeast problem can look identical to a Pandas flare in my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayzoo Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) just checked Kefer Probiotic smoothie...ds has been drinking tons of it in the past week....filled with tons of bacteria, but don't know if it is strep The average milk kefir does have Streptococcus thermophilus. Not all kefirs have the same bacterias and yeasts, but here is a general guide of the common ingredients found in milk kefir made from healthy grains: Bacteria Lactobacillus acidophilus Lactobacillus brevis Lactobacillus casei Lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. bulgaricus Lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. delbrueckii Lactobacillus delbrueckii subsp. lactis Lactobacillus helveticus Lactobacillus kefiranofaciens subsp. kefiranofaciens Lactobacillus kefiri Lactobacillus paracasei subsp. paracasei Lactobacillus plantarum Lactobacillus rhamnosus Lactobacillus sake Lactococcus lactis subsp. cremoris Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis Lactococcus lactis Leuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. cremoris Leuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. dextranicum Leuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. mesenteroides Pseudomonas Pseudomonas fluorescens Pseudomonas putida Streptococcus thermophilus Yeasts Chamaerops humilis Kazachstania unispora Kazachstania exigua Kazachstania exigua Kluyveromyces siamensis Kluyveromyces lactis Kluyveromyces marxianus Saccharomyces cerevisiae Saccharomyces martiniae Saccharomyces unisporus http://www.culturesforhealth.com/milk-kefir-grains-composition-bacteria-yeast/# Edited September 27, 2013 by Mayzoo qannie47 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoyBop Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 You could always switch to another and see if it gets better. Also make sure you leave at least 3 hours between anti and probiotic. But I'm sure you knew that. I forget which doctor told me. But so avoid the strep formulas. They are not pathogenic but still not recommended for PANDAS patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qannie47 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Thanks everyone. Don't think it is the Florastor, since he was on it work several weeks with no problems. Stopped Kefir smoothie starting yesterday, and already ds looks better. But I am not going to get excited yet. My chiro is going to order the new probiotic anyway. I am becoming supersticious with all of this..Yeah, I misspelled super....but whatever, I am too tired to care. Dr K wants me to keep him on full dose of abx for 14 days...after that, he said, then it is time to worry.....UGH. Anyway, I knew I could count on all your great minds to answer my questions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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