Jump to content
ACN Latitudes Forums

Articles


kim

Recommended Posts

Fluoride war to begin again

 

Published Friday, June 16, 2006

by By John Johnston

http://www.bocaratonnews.com/index.php?src...Main%20Headline

 

Eighteen months ago, County Administrator Robert Weisman told the Boca

Raton News it was “unlikely” that an upcoming National Research Council

(NRC) study would resolve the issue of whether or not to put fluoride into

public drinking water.

 

The NRC study is “just a study of all pre-existing studies,” he said.

 

What a difference 18 months makes.

 

Last week Weisman did an about face, saying that the since released NRC

study suggests that the "perceived dental benefits" of fluoridation may

not sufficiently exceed the possible negative effects of using it.

 

Further, Weisman said, there was "sufficient evidence" in the NRC study

about potential negative effects for him to write a memo to County

Commissioners, urging that fluoridation cease in all unincorporated

territory public water systems.

 

Water fluoridation is the practice of adding fluoride compounds to water

with the intended purpose of reducing tooth decay in the general

population. Many American municipalities fluoridate public water supplies,

believing that this practice will reduce tooth decay at a low cost.

Currently about 65 percent of the United States residents in urban areas

have fluoridated water.

 

Opponents Gather

 

Weisman, who began his career as an engineer in the county Engineering and

Public Works Department, won’t get any argument from Patricia Moreell of

Boca Raton about his recommendation to stop fluoridation.

 

“Why is it that the very cities crying dental crisis are those which have

been fluoridated the longest and still have the greatest tooth decay?”

Moreell asks. She cited the cities of Boston, New York, Cincinnati and

Washington DC.

 

Moreell’s group, South Florida Citizens for Safe Drinking Water, has been

fighting the addition of fluoride to drinking water, claiming it is toxic

and actually does little, if anything, to help tooth enamel.

 

County Commissioner Mary McCarty has also steadfastly opposed fluoridation.

 

“I’m pro-choice when it comes to fluoridation,” she said, arguing that

putting fluoride in public water supplies is violating individual choice

because “water is something you can’t live without.”

 

“Fluoride works when it’s applied topically,” said McCarty, “and we get

what we need from our toothpaste. Why do we need it in our water?”

 

Long-time opponent Palm Beach County fluoridation opponent Naomi Flack

takes a different approach. The climate in South Florida – and to prevent

dehydration – causes many persons to consume far more water than is

consumed on average.

 

As such, she said, adding fluoride to public water supplies “is medically

unsound because, and regardless of the dose of fluoride in the water, you

can’t control how much someone drinks.”

 

“This is not about tooth decay,” she also argued. “It is naive to think

that a substance powerful enough to alter tooth enamel will have no effect

whatsoever on all other organs and tissues in the body.”

 

Flack said, “Money saved by no fluoridation could be used to buy enough

fluoridated toothpaste to deal with the entire population.”

 

ADA Disagrees

Hold on to your floss says the American Dental Association (ADA). Despite

the NRC report, and with two days of it being issued, the ADA said that

fluoridation “remains the model for dental disease prevention.”

 

The ADA also said that using the NRC study as a basis for making decisions

about public water supplies is inappropriate because “community water

fluoridation was not part” of the study.

 

According to the official ADA report following the NRC study used by

Weisman to make his recommendations, “the American Dental Association

supports community water fluoridation as a safe, beneficial and

cost-effective way to prevent tooth decay.

 

Past comprehensive reviews of the safety and effectiveness of fluoride in

water have concluded that water fluoridation is safe and the most

cost-effective way to prevent tooth decay among populations living in

areas with adequate community water supply systems,” the ADA says, adding:

 

“In fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) proclaimed

community water fluoridation one of 10 great public health achievements of

the 20th century.”

 

Then what does the NRC report in fact say?

 

According to the ADA, the NRC report was “part of a routine, periodic

review by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Further, the ADA

says, the study doesn’t even address public water supply questions.

Rather, it examined “whether the amount of naturally occurring fluoride

allowed in drinking water poses a health risk.”

 

And the report concluded, according to the ADA, “that the EPA’s maximum

level goal for naturally occurring fluoride in drinking water should be

lowered.”

 

The report cites “severe dental fluorosis, also known as enamel fluorosis,

as one of the reasons for the new recommendation,” according to the ADA.

Severe fluorosis, where teeth appear discolored and sometimes pitted is

found in about 10 percent of children in communities with water fluoride

concentrations at or near 4ppm, according to the NRC report.

 

According to the Center for Disease Control (CDC) 32 percent of American

children now have some form of dental fluorosis, with 2 to 4 percent of

children having the moderate to severe stages (CDC 2005).

 

However, the ADA says, the concentration of fluoride cited in the study

“is nearly four times the optimum amount recommended by the U.S. Public

Health Service, CDC and ADA to prevent tooth decay.”

 

But the fear that adding fluoride to possibly existing natural occurring

fluoride in Palm Beach County’s unincorporated areas, prompted Weisman to

err on the side of caution, causing him to recommend ceasing public water

fluoridation there.

 

Vote Split

The vote eighteen months ago to approve fluoridation was 5-2 – with

Commissioner Tony Masilotti arguing that fluoridation removes citizen

“choice, and Commissioner McCarty arguing that “medicating of water” is

inappropriate.In February of 2004, Commissioners approved fluoridation of

water for about 420,000 people living in the communities in the western

part of the county, most of them west of Boca Raton, Delray Beach, Boynton

Beach and Lake Worth.

 

The 2004 vote was split 4-2, with Commissioners McCarty and Karen Marcus

voting no. Commissioners Burt Aaronson, Addie Green and Warren Newell, led

by its major proponent, Commissioner Jeff Koons, supported fluoridation.

Chairman Masilotti did not attend the February 2004 meeting.

 

Because the approval vote was not unanimous, Commissioners in 2004

directed last year that actual fluoridation would not be implemented

pending review of the since released NRC study.

 

The ADA and other fluoride proponents say the additive has proven itself

an effective anti-cavity substance through a half-century of use in

municipal water supplies and in toothpaste.

 

Changes Mind

What a member of the NRC study board said, however, calls into question

that long-standing belief.Dr. Hardy Limeback is Canada's leading fluoride

authority and, until recently, the country's primary promoter of fluoride.

He now says flatly:

“The evidence that fluoridation is more harmful than beneficial is now

overwhelming.”

 

Limeback lists four primary reasons for his opposition to fluoridation:

 

• Fluoridation is no longer effective. “Fluoride in water has the effect

of delaying tooth eruption and, therefore, simply delays dental decay.”

 

• Fluoridation is the main cause of dental fluorosis – a change in the

tooth’s enamel caused by fluoride. “We have tripled our exposure to

fluoride since fluoridation was conceived in the 1940s. This has lead to

every third child with dental fluorosis.”

 

• Chemicals that are used in fluoridation have not been tested for safety.

“It is industrial grade fluoride contaminated with trace amounts of heavy

metals such as lead, arsenic and radium, which are harmful to humans at

the levels that are being added to fluoridate the drinking water.”

 

• There are serious health risks from water fluoridation. “Fluoridation

studies have never properly shown that fluoride is safe in individuals who

cannot control their dose, or in patients who retain too much fluoride.”

 

Dr. Limeback concludes his comments in the NRC study by saying: “Policy

makers who avoid thoroughly reviewing recent data before introducing new

fluoridation schemes do so at risk of future litigation.”

 

Commissioners will reexamine the question, and Weisman’s memo, at

Tuesday’s county commission meeting. County Health Department head Dr.

Jean Malecki, along with some county dentists, is expected to clash with

Flack, Moreell, and others.

 

John Johnston can be reached at 561-549-0833, or at jjohnston@bocanews.com

 

*

 

The material in this post is distributed without

profit to those who have expressed a prior interest

in receiving the included information for research

and educational purposes.For more information go to:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html

http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~csundt/documents.htm

If you wish to use copyrighted material from this

email for purposes that go beyond 'fair use', you

must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 164
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Hi Kim, I experienced the flouride debate firsthand while in Australia - where they had decided to stop flouridating because of all the negative reports and studies such as the ones you just posted. Then Canada followed suit. Interesting that both those countries have socialized medicine. When these countries implemented the flouride they obviously felt they were trying to save the costs that tooth decay cost them. When they found this to be false they stopped it as again what they were "saving" in cavities was costing them more with the related problems like flourosis and problems with organs and bones. I doubt it was as simple as that but in essence that is what happened. It cost their governments money! Here it is US that incurrs the loss of our health then we pay doctors and dentists more to try to fix the problems! There is little interest in changing this as it would make them loose money.

 

Little Hoyt was about 3 when we were there and it was ironic but his doctor had just filled a prescription for flouride drops at his 3 year old check up and as we were leaving the country and I had so much to do I thought I would just get it filled when we got there. Well they wouldn't fill it for two reasons, one it wasn't a local doctor (although I could have had I got my doctor to go through their protocol of faxing proof etc.) and two because of all that was going on regarding flouride in their country. The pharmacist asked me whether or not I really wanted to do that and filled me in on all the problems! Needless to say when we got home I ordered non-flouridated bottled water and I use it for all our drinking and cooking. I once tried to have this debate with his dentist and she was super closed minded and insisted I flouridate him. Now when we go there she sort of gloats that his teeth are so nice (see Mom, aren't you glad you followed my advice) and I haven't mentioned anything to the contrary and am waiting to do so when he's no longer in her care (she's a pediatric dentist so he won't be able to go there forever). Kinda whimpy of me but there was NO changing her mind and I kinda want to show her the long term results.

 

Thanks for posting!

Giselle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fluoride is a BIG no-no for both my kids.

the first time, years ago, theyhad that awful fluoride paint at the dentist they got ill and I said never again. Since then I have avoided everything containing fluoride (including toothpaste) and they have great teeth!! ^_^ (even the TS son who used to grind his!)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

flouride drops!

 

You know, one thing I'm learning is to print studies and the most mainstream medical things I can find regarding these substances that I'm afraid of for the boys. It's different when they read some of these things first hand.

 

Someone on another forum was pointing out that these people work for us, we pay them. We do not need to stand for condesending criticism.

 

http://home.att.net/~gtigerclaw/dead_rats.html Had to love this one.

 

TS people may not be able to excrete or handle flouride (as with metals) either IMHO. The information on skeletal fluorosis down right frighteneing. http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/s10.htm

 

I'm not sure if I posted this one previously or not.

 

"Harvard Fluoride Study Investigated"

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8570930/

Did Harvard study downplay risk of fluoride?

University to probe professor’s research on water, bone cancer in boys

 

Aletha

http://www.freesoil.org

Free Soil from role stereotyping, genetic and chemical assault, abuse of authority, ...

 

 

http://www.freesoil.org

Free Soil from role stereotyping, genetic and chemical assault, abuse of authority, ...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Here are the two cites in the July NIEHS. Also here is the text of a

letter I sent to the HI governor. This post may be fwdd hither and yon.

 

Teresa

 

The newest issue of a peer-reviewed NIH journal (Environmental Health

Perspectives, by Natl Institute of Environmental Health Sciences) has an

article describing a major new finding about thimerosal's effect upon

immune processes (2) and has a brief commentary about the significance of

those findings (1).

 

The commentary and the entire article are free online (1-2).

 

Teresa Binstock

Researcher in Developmental & Behavioral Neuroanatomy

P.O. Box 1788

Estes Park CO 80517

usa

1. Nanomolar Thimerosal Dysregulates Cell Signaling

http://www.ehponline.org/docs/2006/114-7/ss.html#pote

 

2. Uncoupling of ATP-Mediated Calcium Signaling and Dysregulated

Interleukin-6 Secretion in Dendritic Cells by Nanomolar Thimerosal

http://www.ehponline.org/members/2006/8881/8881.html

 

All of these sites relate to the articles that Teresa posted, except the last one.

 

The effects of problems with calcium influx are pretty well documented in TS

http://www.google.com/search?q=calcium+inf...-8&start=0&sa=N

 

Also the info on inositol

http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/fulltext/inositol3-6.html

 

Dysregualtion of the immume system?

http://www.neurotransmitter.net/ocdimmune.html

 

DHEA and cortisol....a Hypothesis

http://www.anthropogeny.com/A%20Potential%...%20Tourette.htm

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Even at Advised Doses, Tylenol May Harm Liver

 

Though overdoses have been linked to organ damage, the study is the first

to suggest trouble in healthy people taking the drug as directed.

 

By Denise Gellene

Times Staff Writer

July 5, 2006

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci...1,7912813.story

**************************

 

Autism Spectrum Disorders in Relation to Distribution of Hazardous Air

Pollutants in the San Francisco Bay Area

http://www.ehponline.org/members/2006/9120/9120.pdf

 

Paraoxonase gene variants are associated with autism in North America, but

not in Italy: possible regional specificity in gene-environment

interactions.

Mol Psychiatry. 2005 Nov;10(11):1006-16

 

Environmental mercury release, special education rates, and autism

disorder: an ecological study of Texas.

Health Place. 2006 Jun;12(2):203-9

 

"There was a significant increase in the rates of special education

students and autism rates associated with increases in environmentally

released mercury. On average, for each 1,000 lb of environmentally

released mercury, there was a 43% increase in the rate of special

education services and a 61% increase in the rate of autism. The

association between environmentally released mercury and special education

rates were fully mediated by increased autism rates."

 

* * * * ****************

 

Vaccines for kids now mercury-free

 

One encephalitis strain is only exception as new law takes effect.

 

By Dorsey Griffith -- Bee Medical Writer

<dgriffith@sacbee.com>

 

Published 12:01 am PDT Tuesday, July 4, 2006

Story appeared on Page A4 of The Bee

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/sto...-15084359c.html

 

**************************************************************

 

Article is free online:

http://www.springerlink.com/media/a5t5twvx...3g2903v5307.pdf

 

Antibiotic treatment partially protects against type 1 diabetes in the

Bio-Breeding diabetes-prone rat. Is the gut flora involved in the

development of type 1 diabetes?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=990002006

 

You have got a sterile gut when you are born and you have also got an immature gut, which doesn't work properly, particularly the pancreas. You also have a very immature immune system.

 

*Can't help but to wonder how this plays out with a birth dose vaccine?*

 

* * * * * * * * * * *

 

http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_1012.cfm

 

USDA announced its intention to allow food grown in city and industrial sewage sludge, genetically engineered food, and irradiated food to be certified organic.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There are so many of these stories out there. Karen B. on the ASD board posted this today. So sad. For everyone struggling with Dr.s, please remember, it's not only our right to question medical decisions regarding our kids, it's our duty.

 

* * * * * * * * * *

 

NAA Board Member Laura Bono's comments to the Advisory Committee on

Immunization Practices

 

I'm Laura Bono, a Board Member of the National Autism Association.

 

I am not anti-vaccine. I am for safe vaccines. My son was fully

vaccinated.

 

On August 9, 1990, my son was developing normally. He was 16 ½ months

old. Talking. Playing appropriately. Was very social. He was thriving.

 

On that day, he received the following vaccines: HIB, DT, MMR and

Polio. Seven viruses and bacterium with 50 mcg. of thimerosal which

was 45 times the EPA limit for mercury for his weight. This mercury

was on top of the cumulative dosage of 75 mcg. from the 2, 4 and 6

month shots.

 

Jackson wouldn't sleep that night nor the nights that followed. Over

the coming days strange rashes would come and go. Fevers would spike.

Within the next weeks diarrhea and constipation would begin. His

language stopped. His social skills disappeared. He began displaying

odd repetitive behaviors. My Jackson was gone. His personality and

health were stolen leaving a sickly, shell of a child behind.

 

After a horrible four month long regression, Jackson was diagnosed

with PDD. Over the years he has also been diagnosed with

Mercury-Poisoning, Heavy Metal Toxicity, Spike and wave in temporal

lobe, Leaky Gut Syndrome, Thyroid Insufficiency, Sensory Integration

Disorder, Auditory Processing Dysfunction, Tinnitus, Speech, Language

and Social Delay, Tourette's Syndrome, Colitis, Attention

Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder, Immune System Dysfunction causing

food, inhalant and chemical allergies, Yeast and Viral overload, High

Measles Titer, Apraxia, Dyspraxia, Static Encephalopathy and Lymphoid

Nodular Hyperplasia. For those of you who don't know, these conditions

have a common thread. They can all be caused by mercury toxicity.

 

Jackson's abilities and God-given potential were wiped away in a

single day due to mercury.

 

At the Simpsonwood Retreat on June 9, 2000, a group of people some of

whom you know, met to discuss an unknown study at the time led by Tom

Verstraeten of the CDC. Verstraeten explained to the group that the

relative risk of autism to the mercury preservative thimerosal was

"linear and significant." But did these health officials use their

doctorate degrees to immediately work on a plan to help the children?

No. In my opinion, they began cherry-picking the data to save the

vaccine program from embarrassment.

 

These scientists were kidding themselves that their acts were for the

public good. That the suffering children with mercury poisoning

misdiagnosed as autism were the necessary casualties of the war on

disease. Necessary collateral damage. An acceptable risk.

 

Remember my son who got separate DPT and HIB shots delivering 50 mcg.

of thimerosal? His subset was discussed at Simpsonwood. Because there

were so many kids who got autism due to separately HIB and DPT, they

deleted it from the study as to not skew the results. Here is Dr.

Rhodes at the Simpsonwood meeting discussing this particular subset of

children:

 

On Page 105: "The other thing that happens at NCK is that even a year

or two years after the policy change has been made and all kids are

supposedly receiving the combination, there is an odd, small group of

kids that supposedly receives separate DTP and Hib (note: with more

thimerosal) and an unusually high percentage of those kids are outcomes."

 

Rhodes discusses how he has deleted this extraordinarily high subset

of children from the analysis on page 106:

 

"For example, if 1,500 kids were receiving one vaccine combination in

that month of birth and 20 were receiving some other, I have removed

the 20 completely from the analyses."

 

This subset deletion was just one of the many inventive ways the data

was changed to fit the result the group was looking for – to bring the

Thimerosal and Autism relative risk down from over 7 to a RR just

above 2. They went on to work on the data, creating at least two more

generations before the RR was under 1. The study showing no link to

thimerosal and autism was published in the Nov. 2003 Pediatrics article.

 

Please don't kid yourselves that thimerosal is gone and you don't have

to think about it anymore. That it isn't your problem. Thimerosal is

still in flu shots for pregnant women and children and still in

vaccines in trace amounts along with a dangerously high bolus dose of

aluminum. There's probably not a toxicologist among you but if there

were, he or she would tell you that the heavy metal cocktail I've

described is a recipe for disaster.

 

As you know, there is a synergistic affect of metals. An LD1 of lead

and an LD1 of mercury is equal anywhere from an LD50 to an LD100. What

have we done as we increase aluminum exposure along with trace amounts

of thimerosal? We will be substituting aluminum toxicity for mercury

toxicity?

 

My mercury poisoned son is now 17 year old. He is chelating and

getting better. His return to good health underscores that children

can be helped at any age. They just need the proper treatments and

have them covered by insurance. At 17, while your son or daughter

makes plans for the soccer game, going out with their friends and

preparing for their senior year of high school, mine still can't have

a meaningful conversation.

 

I believe policy makers who approve vaccines laced with heavy metals

are misguided and not keeping up with the latest research on heavy

metal toxicity. You fail in your important jobs if you approve any

vaccine without adequate testing – especially those for children. Safe

vaccines must be paramount in your decisions.

 

As a group you can redeem yourselves. Parents of autistic children

need research help for their sick children and in your important jobs

you can have an influence. We also need you to state a preference for

thimerosal free/aluminum free shots for pregnant woman and children.

The world is watching and our children are waiting.

 

* * * * * * * * * * * * ** * *

 

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...332/1020/NEWS04

 

School personnel say they are seeing children who are sicker at younger ages than in the past, said Bonnie Soldano, executive director of the organization founded in 1994 by families raising suicidal teens

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Alcohol Consumption- I'm wondering if any anyone can comment on how alcohol effects tics?

 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/health/0...i=5070&emc=eta1

 

Normally, these receptors are activated by the neurotransmitter glutamate and allow calcium to enter neurons, setting off a cascade of changes that strengthen synapses, by helping to create repeated connections between cells, aiding in the efficient formation of new memories.

 

AND

 

Other research has found that while drunken adolescent rats become more sensitive to memory impairment, their hippocampal cells become less responsive than adults' to the neurotransmitter gamma-amino butyric acid, or GABA, which helps induce calmness and sleepiness.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline Help Send Kids To Prison

 

http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/artic...pfizer_gsk.html

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...395567&in_page_

A new study shows a record rate of autism disorders, which now affect more than one in 100 children.

 

But the figures could be the tip of the iceberg because they do not include a rising number of hyperactivity and behavioural problems such as ADHD.

 

 

http://www.springboard4health.com/notebook...lth_autism.html

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...