Dtap booster

[bulldog24]

My son had a reaction. He was sick for 2 days fever lethargy vomiting. A pandas flare came about 1-2 weeks later. It wasnt severe, and it went away. he is 5.

[P_Mom]

 

You can get a simple blood test to check titers for these diseases. If the titers are within a certain range, the child still has immunity. When we did this, we found our son had zero immunity to pertussis, although he was fully vaxed at that point. I think this may be the reason why there are flares in whooping cough occasionally, not because of the evil anti-vaxers, but because the vaccine itself is not always effective.

 

I would check titers and then skip it if I were you. If tetanus is low, you could get this booster by itself, instead of the triple whammy. There were only 3 reported cases in the U.S., and no deaths, from diptheria between 2000 and 2007. I think its been pretty much irradicated int he U.S. Pertussis is bacterial, so if your child is on Azith, they are protected from it.

 

 

Well said....mama2alex! Get a blood test for your kids to see if they have immunity to whatever vaxes the docs want to give your children. They may still have immunity and the vaccines would be totally unnecessary.......and you could turn in the results showing the schools your kids have immunity. And about Pertussis.....totally agree. It is not because of the evil anti-vaxers, but a failure of the vaccine. This is what several docs told us. And as a side note, both my sons were also fully vaxed against Pertussis and they both got Pertussis 2 summers ago! (as did several children at our church and some adults (even my father)) They now have immunity, of course, but, I bet they also had zero immunity after the vaccines just like you mentioned. They do have, still, protective levels to diptheria and tetanus...so atleast that one "took."

 

So, my advice to the original poster....get a blood test to check for immunity before giving the vaccine and risking a flair.

Testing for immunity is always an option if one wants to avoid boosters. Provided titers are high enough- that is enough proof not to revaccinate. I believe you when you say doctors told you there was a "failure of vaccines", however, there is a certain percentage of the population that fails to seroconvert and develop immunity to specific vaccines- period. Then there is the whole issue of waning immunity (entire reason for vaccine boosters). The vaccine industry has never hidden the fact that some folks will just not develop immunity to certain vaccines regardless of how many times it is given. This is well researched and well published. I never took to small pox as a child- they gave it to me in my arms several times and my legs several times- never took and they just gave up.Small pox is not even given,anymore- thankfuly! However, I have immunity to Hep B, MMR etc. I had Measels and mumps, as a child, so one would expect immunity to those sans any vaccine- but I never had rubella and my titers are OK on that.

 

When we did the big vaccine campaign on heathcare workers for Hep B in the 1990's- we followed up with titers to assure immunity. Some failed to EVER convert.Regardless- even if given additonal boosters or entire repeat series. Some folks just don't seroconvert- it was reported back then that as high as 10-15% of folks that receive Hep B may fail to ever develop immunity. I would hesitate to state this is a failure of the vaccine- just the person's individual response to vaccination. Has nothing to do with antivaxers, either. I'm sure there is a reason for it but it would require lots of blood work to determine if these folks have some type of underlying, undiagnosed immunodeficiency that causes them NOT to gain immunity. These folks are the ones dependent on herd immunity for protection.

 

 

Okay....help me wrap my brain around this one. Usually I would do my research, but, I am so pooped out from researching, I am just gonna hope you help me with this. So, using my boys as an example (waning immunity would not be the case for them since they got Pertussis 1 and 3 years after the last vax)....anyway, why would they seroconvert and develope a robust antibody response to natural Pertussis, but not convert and develope antibodies from the vaccine? To me, that seems like failure of the vaccine.